Random impure thoughts during prayer

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Hey everyone. Sometimes when I am praying the Rosary or some other prayer, I get these random impure thoughts. Sometimes they are even about the Lord. I am deeply ashamed of them. I don’t try to make them happen. They just randomly pop into my head with no apparent cause. What can I do about this? Its not a sin is it?
 
“Consent is the application of the appetitive movement to something that is already in the power of him who causes the application. Now the order of action is this: First there is the (1) apprehension of the end; (2) then the desire of the end; (3) then the counsel about the means; (4) then the desire of the means.” (Summa Theologica, I-II, q. 15, a. 3) Sin is “an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law.” (CCC 1849) Consent is the event when a sin is acted (thoughts are actions in terms of morality). Consent can only be commited by the desire of the means, the last of the four in the order of action quoted above. There are two words there that need clarification, end and means.

The end is the end in view. Impurity. Concerning thoughts, numbers 1 and 2 are often so quick together it can mix you up as combination of one motion. This all depends on the attention you give to your thoughts. Counsel plays a role in attention, for it gives the means to aquire the impurity or end in view. By means I mean the way the end in view is achieved. So it does not become a sin until the thought becomes a way to achieve something evil and and then to desire it or gain pleasure in it, even in the smallest way. Granted, thoughts are small, but a thousand make an ocean in terms of sin. And no one wants a wet wedding garment for the eternal resting place. It could be an inadequate way of wording it.
 
Hey everyone. Sometimes when I am praying the Rosary or some other prayer, I get these random impure thoughts. Sometimes they are even about the Lord. I am deeply ashamed of them. I don’t try to make them happen. They just randomly pop into my head with no apparent cause. What can I do about this? Its not a sin is it?
Its not a sin because you arent deliberately thinking or dwelling on them,

Turn the thoughts into a prayer e.g eternal father i offer you my impure thought ( state thought ) i beg you to purify it with the precious blood of jesus and place it in jesus rays of divine mercy,

Eternal father i am sorry for my impure thought, please take my impure thought and unite it to all the masses being said this day throughout the world,

Firstly, …for myself and for others throughout the world who struggle with impure thoughts to be healed of this affliction,

Secondly…For priests, clergy, religious and missionaries who are tempted by impure thoughts to be granted the grace to stay faithfull at all times to their vows

Thirdly for graces, blessings, cures and healings, answered prayers, miracles, heavenly favours, peace, forgiveness, mercy and conversion to be poured down upon everybody in the world,

Fourthly for an increase in vocations to the priesthood, religious life and missionary life in every country in the world,

Amen

This prayer can be also be used for impure words, deeds and action etc …just change the words from impure thoughts

God bless you
 
Rest assured that many of us struggle with the same thing. These sorts of thoughts are called instrusive thoughts. In fact, many saints have struggled with similar thoughts! These thoughts are not sinful because sin is an act of the will…you do not desire these thoughts - you have no control over these thoughts - these thoughts are not of you. Satan tries to use these sorts of thoughts to distract us from the Lord - don’t let him! Our Lord allows us to suffer in various ways so that we, as His adopted brothers and sisters by virtue of our baptisms, and members of His mystical body, may participate in His work of redemption. I’m sure that these thoughts cause you great torment; unite those feelings to the cross of Our Lord and ask for His peace.
Romans 8:17
…and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if only we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him.
St. Teresa of Avila has some wonderful things to say about intrusive thoughts that I found extremely helpful:
We pass through terrible trials, on account of not understanding our own nature and take what is not merely harmless, but good, for a grave fault. This causes the sufferings felt by many people, particularly by the unlearned, who practise prayer. They complain of interior trials, become melancholy, lose their health, and even give up prayer altogether for want of recognizing that we have within ourselves as it were, an interior world. We cannot stop the revolution of the heavens as they rush with velocity upon their course, neither can we control our imagination. When this wanders we at once imagine that all the powers of the soul follow it; we think everything is lost, and that the time spent in God’s presence is wasted. Meanwhile, the soul is perhaps entirely united to Him in the innermost mansions, while the imagination is in the precincts of the castle, struggling with a thousand wild and venomous creatures and gaining merit by its warfare. Therefore we need not let ourselves be disturbed, nor give up prayer, as the devil is striving to persuade us. As a rule, all our anxieties and troubles come from misunderstanding our own nature. - From The Interior Castle, Chapter I
 
Unfortunately that happens to me a lot, even during mass. it is he work of the devil. when it happens, I say a quick prayer to our mother and ask her to remove these thoughts and visuals from my mind. i also then pray the St. Michael prayer and command Satan to be gone in the name of Jesus.
 
A lot of us cop that sort of thing, so don`t feel guilty. As others have said, these temptations become sins only if we dwell on them and surrender. The Second Sorrowful Mystery (and maybe one or two others) can be a problem, and it might be safer to meditate on, say, the sufferings and persecutions endured by the Church, rather than those inflicted directly on Our Lord.

“O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”
Saint Josephs a great saint of purity......hell help. 👍 Guardian angel et al.

We`re in good company: a lot of the canonised saints had to endure it.
 
Hey everyone. Sometimes when I am praying the Rosary or some other prayer, I get these random impure thoughts. Sometimes they are even about the Lord. I am deeply ashamed of them. I don’t try to make them happen. They just randomly pop into my head with no apparent cause. What can I do about this? Its not a sin is it?
thoughts are not sins.
 
I have the same thing happen to me. Thank you for the suggested prayers. I definitely need to learn the prayer to St. Michael.
 
When they pop in, simply say
“Vade retro, satanas, for the Lord and His Angels attend me!”

And continue in your prayers.
 
(from previous posts of mine)

Regarding unwanted thoughts

While Jesus makes it clear that one can sin in ones thoughts…just cause some lustful thought or other like thought happens does not mean that one has sinned…

What should we do with* unwanted* sexual thoughts or other “bad thoughts”…thoughts against God etc? Those pesky temptations that can come …even though we are not seeking them or doing anything to bring them etc…

Are they mortal sins?

For a mortal sin one needs a grave matter …full knowledge AND deliberate consent!!!

A. If you do not want the thought…it the thought displeases you: it can be a sign actually that you did not give any consent or do not give full consent.

B. Even if you felt a temptation for the thought – and were drawn to it involuntarily —but rejected it and maybe even turned right to God : again a sign not full consent (if there was any).

C. But what if one has a tempting thought --say of a sexual nature and even hesitated for a moment…but then rejected it for one did not want to sin?: it can be partial consent perhaps (and thus a venial sin)-- or it may be no sin at all but rather a strong temptation that drew you but then you saw what was happening and turned away.

D. A temptation can even be very strong or the thoughts very often – but this does NOT mean one has consented!

Remember --for it to be mortal there must be that deliberate consent!

What to do? on the spiritual side–relax first of all and remember the above.

Next – know that the more one fears the thoughts the more likely they are to come… or said another way --the more a person stress about seeking to avoid the thoughts the more likely he will have a problem with them.

for example: for the next 10 seconds try NOT to think of an apple.

tick tock …

tick tock…

Ok what did you think of?

Most likely an apple.

So it is best to ignore them and just not consent and then turn your attention to some other good thing…for instance whatever you are doing.
Simply do not consent and move on…

Another point – thoughts can just happen --they are the stuff with which we think…it is up to us to consent and take them further or not. And just because they are REAL VIVID and almost “think themselves” does not mean per se that one has given ANY consent.

They can be annoying…but need cause no actual harm …

(Now difficulties with thoughts can happen to anyone…and has for centuries…nothing new!..but I will note too that “some” have a condition known as OCD (I knew someone with this once…it was a painful experience)…and thus should seek further professional help to work at overcoming it and to live a more peaceful life…)

(also some suffer from scrupulosity and ought to have a* regular confessor*)

Another help…is the distinction of “first thoughts and emotions” (as Baur calls em) what they call the prima of the prima…“the first of the first” (as one of my Professors called em…he was a Dominican)…these are the first involuntary things that just come up…such are not sins. They can tempt one of course to sin…or one can then proceed to some sin…but they are the stuff of the mind and emotions which “happen to one” …and really the are opportunities for growing in virtue etc as well…

How to deal with these? First of relax…don’t scruple…don’t fear them…to try to swat them all as the come…just simply turn to other things…or the thing you are doing…or to God…(of course do not consent)…but if you are too defensive against them…they may get worse actually…and confuse you more…instead turn to God or again other good things…accept that hey…somethings wild thoughts will come to you…

(and these can happen to all of us by the way…)

There is a story from the desert of the early Centuries of the Church where a younger hermit when to an older one with the problems of thoughts happening to him all the time…the older hermit told him to go outside open his cloak and catch the wind.

The younger hermit said such is not possible…

the older hermit replied --neither is it possible to stop all the thoughts that can come to you…your choice… is to consent or not…
 
Hey everyone. Sometimes when I am praying the Rosary or some other prayer, I get these random impure thoughts. Sometimes they are even about the Lord. I am deeply ashamed of them. I don’t try to make them happen. They just randomly pop into my head with no apparent cause. What can I do about this? Its not a sin is it?
Jesus Divine Mercy to St. Faustina.

1641 At adoration during the Forty-Hours’ Devotion, the Lord said to me, My daughter, write that involuntary offenses of souls do not hinder My love for them or prevent Me from uniting Myself with them. But voluntary offenses, even the smallest, obstruct My graces, and I cannot lavish My gifts on such souls.
 
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