Raped for reading the Bible

[SpaceGirl]

Sick people live in all parts of the world, look at Timothy Mcvay or the college killings yesterday, Columbine, abortion killimgs, kkk. When they do these things I am sure “God” in NOT on their mind or if he is it is a sick version of a god…

 

[jack_hawkins]

It’s very clear how the ‘other situation’ is related to the topic, it shows how whenever Muslims do something bad in the world everyone hears and talks about it, yet other religious groups are mostly ignored when they do similar things.

In other words, it’s nothing to do with the topic at hand! TY:thumbsup:
once Muslims start accepting responsibility for their actions they may be able to move on

 

[jack_hawkins]

Sick people live in all parts of the world, look at Timothy Mcvay or the college killings yesterday, Columbine, abortion killimgs, kkk. When they do these things I am sure “God” in NOT on their mind or if he is it is a sick version of a god…

but Muslims are often acting on the example of Mohammed, that is the difference
also we get people like the “catmeat” Sheikh who prefer to blame the victims
somebody did a study of boroughs in the UK and found a striking positive correlation between the proportion of Muslims and sex crimes

 

[SpaceGirl]

It’s very clear how the ‘other situation’ is related to the topic, it shows how whenever Muslims do something bad in the world everyone hears and talks about it, yet other religious groups are mostly ignored when they do similar things.

I agree! When a Mom and her boyfriend tied down and beat and tortured and killed her daughter because they thought she was a demon fro hell.
happened here on ling island last year…I didnt see that they were “christian” in the news, just that they killed her daughter… humm…is this biased news?

 

[kellie]

It’s very clear how the ‘other situation’ is related to the topic, it shows how whenever Muslims do something bad in the world everyone hears and talks about it, yet other religious groups are mostly ignored when they do similar things.

This is about a specific incident, not a thread to whinge about the media highlighting Muslim negativity.

This was a woman in a Christian country, who has every right to read the Bible, violated in the most violent of ways, as a coward of a man didn’t approve.

It has disgusted me to think this could happen, especially in my own country.

How dare people actually think they can use force on people, and exert violence on people as a way of wanting to feel powerful and right.

I hope the Holy Spirit pours into this woman’s heart and keeps her coming towards Home.

I also hope she heals from the rape, mentally and physically.

 

[SpaceGirl]

This is about a specific incident, not a thread to whinge about the media highlighting Muslim negativity.

This was a woman in a Christian country, who has every right to read the Bible, violated in the most violent of ways, as a coward of a man didn’t approve.

It has disgusted me to think this could happen, especially in my own country.

How dare people actually think they can use force on people, and exert violence on people as a way of wanting to feel powerful and right.

I hope the Holy Spirit pours into this woman’s heart and keeps her coming towards Home.

I also hope she heals from the rape, mentally and physically.

Ummm…I think she was a Muslim???

 

[jack_hawkins]

Exactly - this isn’t the thread for Muslims’ hurt feelings. I don’t identify with the IRA for example, and feel the need to defend them. Why do Muslims feel the need to mount a defence of Muslims in these situations? Why not join us in unequivocally condemning such acts? From past experience I know this is hard for Muslims.
Why do Muslims have to justify evil acts perpetrated by Muslims? No major Muslim organisation in the UK unequivocally condemned the Tube bombings and 9/11 to my knowledge.

 

[SpaceGirl]

One more thing, remember you are talking about most people who dont have a education or the knowledge we have. It is very easy to point fingers at a black spot, but if we lived there with all the suppression , miss communication, no education, illiterate, ignorance…we would to be like them…
oh wait …Christians were like that at one time…my bad…

Walking into Iraq is like walking into the past 700 yeas. Mind set is the same…

READ YOUR HISTORY!

 

[jack_hawkins]

being uneducated is no excuse for rape - no excuse at all
and sadly, in western countries we see people campaigning for the right to uphold these backward and barbaric attitudes
why does a woman need to wear a veil in a modern society?
it is a sign of repression

 

[SpaceGirl]

being uneducated is no excuse for rape - no excuse at all
and sadly, in western countries we see people campaigning for the right to uphold these backward and barbaric attitudes
why does a woman need to wear a veil in a modern society?
it is a sign of repression

Education is just ONE factor…and its easy for you to say that! You have one.

My catholic grandmother wears a scarf…is she oppressed?

 

[kellie]

Ummm…I think she was a Muslim???

Yes she is, and she still has every right to read the Bible.

 

[kellie]

One more thing, remember you are talking about most people who dont have a education or the knowledge we have. It is very easy to point fingers at a black spot, but if we lived there with all the suppression , miss communication, no education, illiterate, ignorance…we would to be like them…
oh wait …Christians were like that at one time…my bad…

Walking into Iraq is like walking into the past 700 yeas. Mind set is the same…

READ YOUR HISTORY!

This man was not living in suppression.

He lives in Sydney Australia.

 

[SpaceGirl]

This man was not living in suppression.

He lives in Sydney Australia.

That may be true, but that does not mean he is a mentally balanced person…

AND it says she read the bible but not converted.

 

[kellie]

That may be true, but that does not mean he is a mentally balanced person…

Any rapist is not mentally balanced

 

[SpaceGirl]

Any rapist is not mentally balanced

Whell then why is this a Issue?

 

[SpaceGirl]

Raped for reading the Bible
Exclusive by Evelyn Yamine
April 17, 2007 12:00
Article from: (Embedded image moved to file: pic00041.jpg)
AN Iraqi man allegedly raped a Muslim woman as “punishment” for reading the
Bible, saying, “let your Jesus help you”, a court heard yesterday.
Campbelltown District Court was told Abdul Reda Al Shawany twice sexually
assaulted the woman, a practising Muslim who wears a hijab, after they met
at a railway station.
Al Shawany, 52, has plead not guilty to two counts of having sexual
intercourse without consent between September 1 and 27, 2002, at a unit in
Warwick Farm.
At the first day of the week-long trial yesterday, Crown prosecutor Michael
O’Brien outlined the case and told how the woman allegedly kept the clothes
and underwear she was wearing on the day of the alleged rape in a plastic
bag for about three years.
The woman initially reported the matter to police but did not want to take
it further because she felt “ashamed”, Mr O’Brien said. She later changed
her mind and Al Shawany, of Hillsdale, was arrested in July 2005 and the
woman provided police with the clothing.
The Crown alleges swab samples from the accused had the same DNA as the
semen sample taken from the woman’s clothing.
“The complainant was born a Muslim and raised a Muslim and was a Muslim all
her life,” Mr O’Brien said.
He said when the woman came to Australia from the Middle East she began
listening to Christian teachers and reading the Bible.
He said the woman had received threats from members of her faith for
reading the Bible but had not converted to Christianity.
It is alleged she met Al Shawany, who she had first met overseas, at
Warwick Farm railway station in September, 2002, after he told her he had
some mail for her from overseas.
Al Shawany allegedly then took her to a Warwick Farm unit and pushed her in
the head as she entered.
“She was wearing a hijab. The accused grabbed the hijab, the veil, and
pulled it tight across her mouth,” Mr O’Brien told the court.
“She fell to the floor and she couldn’t scream because she had a hijab
tight across her mouth.”
Al Shawany allegedly raped the woman and later allegedly said: “Let your
Jesus help you.”
In a police interview, Al Shawany denied having sexual intercourse with the
woman or threatening her.
Al Shawany’s barrister Chris Pike told the court his client was a
hardworking businessman with close ties to the community who strenuously
denied the charges.
“My client is not a zealot,” Mr Pike said.
The woman gave evidence in closed court yesterday and is expected to return
to the witness stand when the trial before Judge David Knox continues
today.

news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21566990-5001021,00.html

She was not a christan. If she converted is not in the story.

 

[kellie]

Whell then why is this a Issue?

The Muslim man did not like seeing a Muslim woman reading the Bible, so he pulled her hijab over her eyes, and raped her, saying to as he did so “Let your Jesus help you”.

That is why it is highlighted in the news.

Any rape is an issue as well, and sadly there are too many rapes a day for them all to be reported in the news, but this one has been due to the religious aspect of it.

 

[happygal]

Well it is sad that such case happened in some part of the world. Sometime i do wonder if those extremist Muslim would to immirgrate to my country, how would my government deal with such pple?? I believe at least a sentence behind bar for around 15yrs plus a canning of at least 20stroke. I leave in a country where the government expect total obedience from its pple.

I remembered many yrs ago, a young Amercian teenager whom was staying here on a temporal basic due to his dad working stinct, was caught deliberately vanderlizing public cars, although nobody was hurt but his act was rather absurb misbehave. The court trial him as an adult and thereby sentenced him with a 15strokes canning . His parent seek help from the America embassy here to reduce the sentence, but unfortunately our government spare no mercy for such misbehave as he was staying in my country and need to obey the law of my country.

Therefore at time the law of the country does play a part in shaping its pple and their behaviour. Our government althought at time can be very extreme at such as a critizen here we do feel we do not have any human rights even public speaking are not allow at all, but then again if there are no such laws how can i sleep soundly and live peacefully in such a wonderful country.

 

[jack_hawkins]

Education is just ONE factor…and its easy for you to say that! You have one

I can’t see how one has to be edyookated to know it is wrong to force yourself on a woman - esp since in this case it was specifically to punish the woman.

My catholic grandmother wears a scarf…is she oppressed?

it doesn’t render her a non-person by hiding her face, or risk her having Vit D defiiciency
our society doesn’t pressurise people to wear scarves currently

 

[CherryBomb]

How terrible Muslims supposedly have a great respect for Jesus and consider Him a prophet, so why the issue?

I have no issue with head covering. It’s biblically based and I would consider it if it wouldn’t draw attention to me. I don’t understand the full covering, though.