RCC and Intinction

[Corki]

Interesting about the concern that someone be holding the cup. I had assumed that since the sets are produced specifically for this purpose that they had been approved at some point.

I don’t know if they were ever approved but neither do I think they were ever strictly forbidden. Most of the sources for Church ware, especially altar ware, sell items that are unapproved for Latin rite Catholic liturgy but are used in Anglican or Lutheran services. I know I have seen things like clay chalices and the little individual communion cups in the same catalogs.

 

[Corki]

They don’t need a huge one. The priest can always go back to the altar to get more Hosts.

I didn’t mean it would get heavy from too many hosts. It is not as easy to hold with one hand what amounts to a small chalice on top of a large paten as it is to hold a ciborium - especially if held by the stem. I was only thinking that after a while it could get tiring.

 

[Mrs_Sally]

I don’t know if they were ever approved but neither do I think they were ever strictly forbidden. Most of the sources for Church ware, especially altar ware, sell items that are unapproved for Latin rite Catholic liturgy but are used in Anglican or Lutheran services. I know I have seen things like clay chalices and the little individual communion cups in the same catalogs.

True. Although self-intinction is alive and well in local Lutheran churches. Friends talk about “dip or sip” Sundays where they have the option of self intincting or drinking from the common cup (wine) or those little cups (juice). Very snack-time like.

 

[ConstantineTG]

I didn’t mean it would get heavy from too many hosts. It is not as easy to hold with one hand what amounts to a small chalice on top of a large paten as it is to hold a ciborium - especially if held by the stem. I was only thinking that after a while it could get tiring.

Hey, if Russian Orthodox can do it, why can’t Roman Catholics…

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[ProVobis]

It would be great if intinction would be the norm in the RCC, and expand its usage to include deacons.

I’m not disagreeing with you but doesn’t the Blood already have particles of the Body in it? Wouldn’t just drinking the cup at that point provide one with receiving under both species?

 

[ConstantineTG]

I’m not disagreeing with you but doesn’t the Blood already have particles of the Body in it? Wouldn’t just drinking the cup at that point provide one with receiving under both species?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Fraction Rite only says that one chalice gets a fraction of the Host. From my very limited experience in receiving from the chalice in Mass, I haven’t seen any particle of the Host in the chalice. I may be wrong, or the priest may be performing an abuse, but from what I understand that the particle only goes to one chalice, at least.

 

[Corki]

I’m not disagreeing with you but doesn’t the Blood already have particles of the Body in it? Wouldn’t just drinking the cup at that point provide one with receiving under both species?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Fraction Rite only says that one chalice gets a fraction of the Host. From my very limited experience in receiving from the chalice in Mass, I haven’t seen any particle of the Host in the chalice. I may be wrong, or the priest may be performing an abuse, but from what I understand that the particle only goes to one chalice, at least.

You are correct. At the fractioning, only the celebrant’s main chalice gets a piece of the host.

I have seen the piece in the chalice but at most only one or two people would be receiving both species. Even the priest must consume the host AND drink from the chalice after breaking the host.