RCIA-paperwork lost, again

[Jon_S_1]

I just got word.

I’m in.

I… I don’t know what to think. So. Many. Emotions.

Prayers for all the RCIA folks who cannot come in just yet. Wish I could hug all of you!!! :grouphug:

Awesome!! So glad it worked out! Enjoy the Vigil! Welcome home!

 

[SuscipeMeDomine]

Wonderful news! I’m so happy everything has worked out well.

 

[ForeverJoy]

Hooray! :extrahappy: Hooray!

 

[PJM]

=DakiniArtist;12811543]I feel discouraged.

I’ve been trying to convert for several years. My paperwork keeps getting lost. I’ve been given the wrong forms. Now I find out some paperwork that was supposed to have been sent to the diocese in January wasn’t sent and won’t be until next Monday. Zero chance it will be done in time for Easter Vigil.

A friend told me (yes, gossip) that the church employee in charge has told a couple of people in regards to “certain candidates/catechumens,” “we don’t need any Obama-voting, cafeteria Catholics.” So hubby is burning up, thinking this person is sabotaging my paperwork. This person perhaps assumes s/he knows me and knows my political beliefs based upon how I voted in 2008.

So what was, finally, a done-deal, going through Easter Vigil, turned into, Sunday morning, being told there is a very, very small chance I’ll come into full communion with the RCC April 4th. Naturally, I burst into tears. The only person who handles the paperwork is on vacation for another week. I think I’m going to calm down, make an appointment with our rector, and see what can be done.

This just isn’t cool. It’s not for this person to say. It is between me and God. God has strongly led me to the Church. He’s not going to bring me and my husband and four children for some nefarious reason.

Urgh…

Sorry for dumping my drama on y’all.

Blessings.

Catherine

CALL ASAP the Bishops Office and speak to a priest there.

Have you battened RCIA which is a necessary requirement [as the NORM} for entry into the Catholic Church?

As to Obama; and the like:

ALL Catholics are prohibited from SUPPORTING in ANY WAY including [voting for] ANY and ALL persons who ADVOCATE Abortions, gay marriage and ANY and ALL other issues CONTRARY to God’s Commandments.:

That dear friend is NOT the Church; it IS God Himself. Amen!

God Bless you,

Patrick

 

[DakiniArtist]

Thanks, Patrick, but…

Like I just posted, I’ve been let in for Easter Vigil, as I found out today. (I was coming in later this month or in May).

As my profile indicates, I’m currently in RCIA; this is my fourth year in. (I continued as I waited for my annulment to be completed.)

I voted for Obama in 2008. Two and half years before The Church was on my radar. The deacon who does the annulment and marriage convalidation paperwork was told by a “concerned” parishioner who heard from another mom’s group attendee that I had a campaign photo on my Facebook. No one bothered to come to me and sit and talk. He simply made a bunch of assumptions.

 

[1ke]

Thanks, Patrick, but…

Like I just posted, I’ve been let in for Easter Vigil, as I found out today. (I was coming in later this month or in May).

As my profile indicates, I’m currently in RCIA; this is my fourth year in. (I continued as I waited for my annulment to be completed.)

Congratulations! I am glad that it worked out and you will be able to enter the Church now.

I voted for Obama in 2008. Two and half years before The Church was on my radar. The deacon who does the annulment and marriage convalidation paperwork was told by a “concerned” parishioner who heard from another mom’s group attendee that I had a campaign photo on my Facebook. No one bothered to come to me and sit and talk. He simply made a bunch of assumptions.

I hope you understand that this is NOT something that anyone should have “considered” at all, in any way, shape, or form. The deacon had **no **authority to delay anything or make decisions about whether you could or should enter the Church.

In fact, that is quite scandalous, and IMHO everyone involved should get into confession ASAP.

I am so sorry that you experienced such craziness.

 

[1ke]

ALL Catholics are prohibited from

Patrick, I hop you understand that the statement you made does not *accurately *convey Church teaching on voting.

Does the Church actually have a teaching that states what you assert? No.

Does the Church give us the tools to form our conscience in accord with Church teaching on a number of serious matters, those dealing with defense of the innocent and vulnerable preeminent among them? Yes.

Are Catholics to have a well formed conscience and use prudence? Yes.

I suggest this document:

usccb.org/issues-and-action/faithful-citizenship/forming-consciences-for-faithful-citizenship-document.cfm

 

[DakiniArtist]

1ke,

Thanks a million, my friend, for the warm welcome.

I always learn from your posts and enjoy them.

:hug1:

Catie

 

[Captain_America]

I’m in Illinois and moderately politically involved and never cared for Obama since I first ran across him, even as a state senator he was an odd job.

But this is me. I don’t care how you voted or how you vote. That’s irrelevant to the matter at hand. It should be irrelevant at well in your parish and diocese.

I can’t imagine the anger I’d feel at the botched paperwork; I’d think it was very insufficient and should be cordially reported to the diocese. That’s nonsense.

 

[PJM]

=1ke;12872818]Congratulations! I am glad that it worked out and you will be able to enter the Church now.

I hope you understand that this is NOT something that anyone should have “considered” at all, in any way, shape, or form. The deacon had **no **authority to delay anything or make decisions about whether you could or should enter the Church.

In fact, that is quite scandalous, and IMHO everyone involved should get into confession ASAP.

I am so sorry that you experienced such craziness.

CAUTION!

We MUST not be judgmental! Even with ALL of the facts which we DO NOT HAVE:thumbsup:

 

[PJM]

=1ke;12872863]Patrick, I hop you understand that the statement you made does not *accurately *convey Church teaching on voting.

Does the Church actually have a teaching that states what you assert? No.

Does the Church give us the tools to form our conscience in accord with Church teaching on a number of serious matters, those dealing with defense of the innocent and vulnerable preeminent among them? Yes.

Are Catholics to have a well formed conscience and use prudence? Yes.

I suggest this document:

usccb.org/issues-and-action/faithful-citizenship/forming-consciences-for-faithful-citizenship-document.cfm

REALLY** From the Catholic Catechism:**

2271" Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes."

2272 “Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. “A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,” “by the very commission of the offense,” and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society”

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, “if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence.”

I can give you further evidence of the position I shared if your still in doubt

God Bless you,

Patrick

 

[Selah_KY]

I just got word.

I’m in.

I… I don’t know what to think. So. Many. Emotions.

Prayers for all the RCIA folks who cannot come in just yet. Wish I could hug all of you!!! :grouphug:

:extrahappy:

 

[Selah_KY]

ALL Catholics are prohibited from SUPPORTING in ANY WAY including [voting for] ANY and ALL persons who ADVOCATE Abortions, gay marriage and ANY and ALL other issues CONTRARY to God’s Commandments.:

There are more issues contrary to God’s commandments than just abortion. And, of course, this is an inappropriate place to bring this up anyway.

Patrick, I hop you understand that the statement you made does not *accurately *convey Church teaching on voting.

Thank you.

 

[DakiniArtist]

Selah,

Thank you!!!

:hug1:

 

[PJM]

=Selah KY;12883085]There are more issues contrary to God’s commandments than just abortion. And, of course, this is an inappropriate place to bring this up anyway.

Thank you.

Please SEE post #29, what I stated is The Position of the Catholic Church.
If it is not my friend, please provide the evidence of you’re position as I did:thumbsup:

God Bless you
Patrick