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Good luck, I’m happy to read 1 chapter per day (w/ notes & commentary), sometimes even 1 or 2 verses! If it gets to be to much, don’t let pride prevent you from slowing down.
My parish in San Diego sponsored the one-day Great Adventure Bible Timeline Seminar last year, with Tim Gray, Ph.D., as speaker. Over 430 people from all over the diocese attended, about half of them from my parish. We followed up with the 24-week adult Great Adventure Bible Timeline adult bible studies studies, and about 100 people participated in home-based small groups. There was also an 8-week teen bible study. All of the programs were very well received. People learned a great deal about the bible, especially the Old Testament, laying a foundation for reading, studying and meditating on the scriptures. Some groups continued to do additional adult bible studies in the Great Adventure series.Has anyone tried studying the Old Testament course, called the Bible Timeline,(24 week) conducted by Jeff Cavins. I am doing the study currently and am finding it so interesting, that I am looking forward too, each week. Jeff does not suggest reading the book cover to cover, as you will loose interest and give up after a while. When you get to Kings, believe me, you want to skip and you can’t actually follow the Kings from north to south. The bible keeps referring the story from north to south. You will give up seriously.
What Jeff says, is to read certain chapters or verses and then he compares them to the other books of the prophets or the New Testament. I am sure, most of us know that the OT is always mentioned in the Gospels and in the letters the apostles wrote. So we really need to refer back and forth, in order to understand the history and meaning and as well as why God reacted in a way he did.
There is plenty of history to understand from the first to the last page of the bible. I suggest reading the bible with someone who runs bible courses.
I have the NAB Bible on audio CDs. It is by Casscom Media ( www.casscommedia.com ). I got mine from my local Catholic bookstore. My 8yo son loves to listen to it. His name is Samuel. So, of course, he HAD to listen to 1st & 2nd Samuel first!One good idea is to look for an audio CD Bible to use in the car on long journeys or on the way to work. However, I have been unable to find a Catholic edition of a CD Bible; all I could find was a NIV version, which I was able to borrow.
So why on earth did you feel like you had to ‘get through it all at once’ and only then go back and really study it?I have done this. I read the Bible cover to cover. I, too, heard all the negative comments about how you can’t do this, yada, yada, yada. You know what you can and can’t do. I did it because I was tired of feeling less since I hadn’t read it. I just wanted to get through it all once. Then I could go back and really study it with the overview of the rest of the Bible somewhere in my head. I would put a check mark next to the chapter when I finished it. Since I did this before I came into the church, I have since gone back with my Catholic Bible and read the missing books and verses.
Thank you for bringing this up. I am now motivated to open up my bible again and do some more reading. BTW, I really enjoyed the books of Ruth, Judith, Wisdom, and Sirach. 2 Macc is much better than 1 Macc.![]()
I think that there is a lot of value in simply reading something through without slowing down to study or meditate on the texts. Especially if you are reading parts of the bible for the first time, you get the sense of the story – the grand sweep of the bible, so to speak. Then you go back and do it more slowly. Forest first, then trees sounds good to me.So why on earth did you feel like you had to ‘get through it all at once’ and only then go back and really study it?
What’s wrong with studying it properly first time round?
A decent study guide will already put each book into perspective in terms of the Bible as a whole for you, and probably do so better than you could yourself.
Okay, first off, this really comes off as judgemental. Just because it is not how you would do it doesn’t mean that there is no merit in it for someone else.So why on earth did you feel like you had to ‘get through it all at once’ and only then go back and really study it?
What’s wrong with studying it properly first time round?
A decent study guide will already put each book into perspective in terms of the Bible as a whole for you, and probably do so better than you could yourself.
Why do you say Cathh(name removed by moderator) is confused? Its quite a good idea to read something right through to get an overview of what you read; this allows you to put things into context. It also means for someone who has never read the whole Bible before, that they can “get the feel” of the different kinds of book or writing, and forms of literature to be found in the Bible. They can also see that some accounts are written twice, from more than one perspective, and they can pick up on repetitive themes throughout the Bible. Having done the groundwork to lay out the whole Bible, they can re-read at leisure, taking time to pick up on points of interest and to use them for study or praying.So why on earth did you feel like you had to ‘get through it all at once’ and only then go back and really study it?
What’s wrong with studying it properly first time round?
A decent study guide will already put each book into perspective in terms of the Bible as a whole for you, and probably do so better than you could yourself.
I don’t mean to be judgemental, I merely mean to express a sense of confusion at the approach people are taking to scripture. Story? Grand sweep? Is this the word of God you’re talking about or a novel you’re writing an essay about for English lit?I think that there is a lot of value in simply reading something through without slowing down to study or meditate on the texts. Especially if you are reading parts of the bible for the first time, you get the sense of the story – the grand sweep of the bible, so to speak. Then you go back and do it more slowly. Forest first, then trees sounds good to me.
I just don’t see how the thought and prayer meshes with the moving along - I don’t see how you can NOT be doing less of the former if you’re doing more of the latter in such a case. There’s only so many hours of a day you can devote to one or the other, after all.Currently, I am using bible commentaries to study individual books of the bible (currently, Genesis, using the commentary by Walter Brueggemann in the Interpretation series; in the past few years: Leviticus, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekial, John, letters of John, Acts, Romans, Galatians, Hebrews, James, I and II Peter, Jude, Revelation). Some of my studies have taken 3-4 months each. Taking that approach, I’d finish reading the bible in, say, 15-20 years! However, the summer I spent reading the whole bible was a great experience. I read thoughtfully and prayerfully, but I moved along.
None of my classmates in school English class seemed to think so - and I’m sure they’d have been openly critical of our teachers making us take our reading slowly if they’d felt there was any disadvantage, they weren’t ever backward in coming forward!If you simply study something in depth the first time around, it can become quite daunting and you may back off simply because the study is slowing you down and you feel you may never get through it.
And some read it purely as a work of basically fictional literature, others simply as something to cross off their ‘to-do’ list, others merely as an interesting scholarly exercise - and all of these as ANYTHING rather than an act of faith.Live and let live - some people will want to tackle the Bible slowly and in depth, whilst others will read through quickly. Others again may never read the Bible if they hear us criticising. The right thing is to read, and to attend to the word of God, whether by doing so slowly, or all at once. Enjoy it and take it in whichever method you use!!
You are assuming that I and the original poster are talking about speed-reading. Moreover, you are assuming that our use of the bible begins and ends with reading, or in my case, reading (speedily, like a newspaper) and studying using commentaries. If I were to make unjustified assumptions based only on what you have posted, I’d say that you are proposing that the only way to use the bible in a God-honoring way is meditation on the scriptures or lectio divina. I don’t think that’s what you intended either.I don’t mean to be judgemental, I merely mean to express a sense of confusion at the approach people are taking to scripture. Story? Grand sweep? Is this the word of God you’re talking about or a novel you’re writing an essay about for English lit?
The Bible is God’s love letter to each of us - His communication of His very self. An incredibly personal and intimate document - and vastly different to any other reading you ever have done or ever will do. It should be treated as such.
Would any of you EVER consider skimming through a love letter from your soulmate in order to get a ‘general overview’ or a ‘grand sweep’ of the letter - or some such? How would you feel if a loved one simply ‘skimmed through’ a love letter you wrote to them and basically stated that otherwise they’d never read the thing?
I find the very idea completely baffling, not to mention offputting.
I just don’t see how the thought and prayer meshes with the moving along - I don’t see how you can NOT be doing less of the former if you’re doing more of the latter in such a case. There’s only so many hours of a day you can devote to one or the other, after all.
Moreover reading the scripture is meant in ITSELF to be a prayer - the essence of prayer being communication with God, and the scripture being God’s method of communicating with us at the very least. You wouldn’t rush through any other prayer - so why rush through reading Scripture?
Speed-reading scripture to me feels like the equivalent of watching the clock to see how quickly you can possibly get through a Rosary, or a priest seeing how quickly he can get through a Mass and having the attitude that it’s merely the ‘gist’ of the prayers that are important. Too many priests actually do this and ad lib to a woeful extent…
And some read it purely as a work of basically fictional literature, others simply as something to cross off their ‘to-do’ list, others merely as an interesting scholarly exercise - and all of these as ANYTHING rather than an act of faith.
But reading scripture IS an act of faith - something that is included in our liturgy precisely because it is a form of communion with God through His word. It is similar to, if not on the same level as, the Eucharist itself in this way.
Most everyone complains when the priest is perceived to be rushing the Mass, because the rushing is usually, if not absolutely always, indicative of a lack of due attention and respect for what is taking place, and does not allow for proper appreciation of what is happening. And I certainly don’t hear anyone saying 'let some priests say Mass in ten minutes if they want, it’s just their way - live and let live".
And if, as I have said, scripture is similar if not on the same level as the Eucharist itself, why would we want to speed through that either?
Where are you Mac? You last said you were in Deuteronomy. How was it, are you
done?
I’m sorry. Something came up and I didn’t have this week to read. So I am about 20 pages left in Deuteronomy. I still hope to finish this summer, but if I don’t, I will continue to read even when classes start back. I will stay up a little later to finish it and start the Book of Josue tomorrow.Yes, Mac, I second cheeto. Where are you? Give us an update. I’m praying for you!
Has anyone tried studying the Old Testament course, called the Bible Timeline,(24 week) conducted by Jeff Cavins. I am doing the study currently and am finding it so interesting, that I am looking forward too, each week. Jeff does not suggest reading the book cover to cover, as you will loose interest and give up after a while. When you get to Kings, believe me, you want to skip and you can’t actually follow the Kings from north to south. The bible keeps referring the story from north to south. You will give up seriously.
I have done Cavins Bible Timeline, Matthew, part of Acts, and in the fall and winter will do Revelations and another I can’t think of right now. Jeff’s explanations are fantastic and makes the dry stuff come alive. I had tried to read the Bible a few times and could not get the meaning of so much of it. In having taken these studies, the Mass readings are covered and I can relate them to my daily lfe more easily.
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A year ago in my parish we did the one-day Great Adventure Bible Timeline Seminar (Tim Gray was our teacher), then followed up with the 24-session adult bible studies and the teen T3 program (8 wks). More than 430 attended the one-day seminar – about half from my parish – and more than 100 parishioners were involved in the adult bible studies. Overall, it was a big success, and we had great feedback. Some continued on with additional studies from the Great Adventure series. One group, for example, studied the Book of Revelation. We plan on starting up the Bible Timeline adult bible studies again in the fall.Has anyone tried studying the Old Testament course, called the Bible Timeline,(24 week) conducted by Jeff Cavins. I am doing the study currently and am finding it so interesting, that I am looking forward too, each week. Jeff does not suggest reading the book cover to cover, as you will loose interest and give up after a while. When you get to Kings, believe me, you want to skip and you can’t actually follow the Kings from north to south. The bible keeps referring the story from north to south. You will give up seriously.
I have done Cavins Bible Timeline, Matthew, part of Acts, and in the fall and winter will do Revelations and another I can’t think of right now. Jeff’s explanations are fantastic and makes the dry stuff come alive. I had tried to read the Bible a few times and could not get the meaning of so much of it. In having taken these studies, the Mass readings are covered and I can relate them to my daily lfe more easily.
C
I commend your efforts in reading the Bible. This something that I decided to do 2 years ago. Since then I have read it 3 times plus getting scripture form the Liturgy of the Hours and Daily Mass readings. I too use the Douay-Rheims. It is my favorite. I like that and the Latin Vulgate (Clementine edition)I am posting this thread to encourage anyone interested in the reading the entire bible with me as quickly as possible. I have two months off of school so this is how I am spending it. I am reading the Douay-Rheims, but you may use any translation of the Holy Writ. Ideally, we could have some discussion here as well, as we read through. Thanks and God bless!