Real Catholic TV on feminism in the Church

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Talking about feminism in the Church and altar boys being called to be priests, interesting I saw this link on another forum.
It is a very good 17 minute clip on the priesthood. Very good clip. Doesn’t talk about altar boys but has some men talking about what led them to the priesthood.

usccb.org/vocations/fishersofmen.shtml
 
Never was a problem for the small parish I grew up in. That was because my dad considered it to be a requirement for me and my brothers. The other guy’s dad’s did the same thing. It was both a privilege and a responsibility. It wasn’t presented as “Does little Johnny want to help?” it was “We need help, can Johnny do it?” Some might not see a big difference in those two statements, but they mean very different things.

I don’t Michael was intending his statement to be subject to the rigors of statistical analysis. While some of it was glazed over, I defend his assertion because I have heard it from other channels as well where the question was put to clerics and seminarians about what experiences had a positive influence on them in regards to becoming a priest, and the connection with serving at the altar was one of the most common responses. Again not statistically rigorous, but it is something that sticks in the minds of the priests themselves.

Girls do drive the boys away from things like this. I remember when our pastor (from the parish previously mentioned) asked us if we wanted altar girls and all of us gave an emphatic no. This was our turf, our responsibility, and we didn’t want to share it. There isn’t the same camaraderie between the sexes as their is between men of any age (I’m sure the inverse works too but I’m not a woman so I won’t speak for them), and that is part of the appeal to the boys and young men. The point is we are trying to train up little priests (“little cleric” is the Italian name for altar boys), and so we give them all the attention in this regard.
Great points. Still it begins and ends with the parents. Go there first. Go there. You had a fantastic dad & I see the same strength in my husband.

However, there are some truly devout and holy altar girls that I have known. They have helped catechize and teach the others, including boys about what matters at the altar. If they are there for the right reason; then nothing will keep the boys away.
 
I thought it was insulting when they removed the Latin responses and other various functions from us servers back in the 60’s. Whereas one day you have a very important role in the sanctuary, in matter of a few years, your role is relegated to almost nothing except perhaps symbolism of the past. My younger brother didn’t even see the point. Eliminating the subdeacon function, solemn Masses, Benedictions, novenas, etc. didn’t help either.
Yeah, one day I had to hold the paten underneath the chin of every communicant, the next day it was not needed. Talk about taking the wind out of your sails.
 
…where the question was put to clerics and seminarians about what experiences had a positive influence on them in regards to becoming a priest, and the connection with serving at the altar was one of the most common responses. Again not statistically rigorous, but it is something that sticks in the minds of the priests themselves.

Girls do drive the boys away from things like this. I remember when our pastor (from the parish previously mentioned) asked us if we wanted altar girls and all of us gave an emphatic no. This was our turf, our responsibility, and we didn’t want to share it. There isn’t the same camaraderie between the sexes as their is between men of any age (I’m sure the inverse works too but I’m not a woman so I won’t speak for them), and that is part of the appeal to the boys and young men. The point is we are trying to train up little priests (“little cleric” is the Italian name for altar boys), and so we give them all the attention in this regard.
This is very true. At the age when boys are learning to be altar boys there is alot of peer pressure. If they see it as a man’s job they will be more willing to go. If they start seeing it as a girl’s job they are going to back off.
 
This is very true. At the age when boys are learning to be altar boys there is alot of peer pressure. If they see it as a man’s job they will be more willing to go. If they start seeing it as a girl’s job they are going to back off.
Exactly - a boy looks to see a real man as a priest. Effeminate priests and feminizing the Church hurts vocations. Perhaps Jesus knew what He was doing when He st it up. :hmmm:
 
Yeah, one day I had to hold the paten underneath the chin of every communicant, the next day it was not needed. Talk about taking the wind out of your sails.
I never do understand why during communion altar boys or girls are sitting when they could be holding the paten.

The parish I attend now has brought that use back.
 
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I never do understand why during communion altar boys or girls are sitting when they could be holding the paten.
It used to be that the altar servers were almost never allowed to sit, except for the sermon and maybe the singing of the Gloria and Credo . It was either kneel or stand or perform an activity.
 
I was an Altar Girl, I think it was one of the greatest memories of my youth, and we always had a good balance. Two of the Altar Boys I know later went on to seminary, and I am sure there are more that I don’t know. In the end, God is in charge of calling people to the Priesthood, and call me crazy but somehow I don’t think God will be foiled by “cooties”. 😛 I don’t think some of the responses here give boys (or girls) enough credit in terms of their love for God or the Mass… 🙂
 
I was an Altar Girl, I think it was one of the greatest memories of my youth, and we always had a good balance. Two of the Altar Boys I know later went on to seminary, and I am sure there are more that I don’t know. In the end, God is in charge of calling people to the Priesthood, and call me crazy but somehow I don’t think God will be foiled by “cooties”. 😛 I don’t think some of the responses here give boys (or girls) enough credit in terms of their love for God or the Mass… 🙂
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I am pretty offended by that video.
Maybe I’ll go cry about it.
 
I don’t think some of the responses here give boys (or girls) enough credit in terms of their love for God or the Mass… 🙂
Yes, but do you need to serve in order to show love for God or the Mass? I as a server did it because “it was my turn to serve” and the priest and community needed me to make the responses (for them.) But I loved the Mass even when I was sitting in the pews, no more, no less.
 
Michael Voris is awesome!!!

When I first watched one of his videos, I’ll be honest to say I thought he was quite rude. I started watching more and more, and really, when you get used to him, he’s excellent! Bold and honest!
 
Michael Voris is awesome!!!

When I first watched one of his videos, I’ll be honest to say I thought he was quite rude. I started watching more and more, and really, when you get used to him, he’s excellent! Bold and honest!
That’s the phenomena of inurement. Scandal, gossip and hubris can be called ‘bold and honest’, too.
 
That’s the phenomena of inurement. Scandal, gossip and hubris can be called ‘bold and honest’, too.
I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

Listen to the start intro in the Vortex… “Welcome to the Vortex, where lies and falsehoods are cracked and exposed…”

If you would rather not know what is happening in the Church then just don’t watch…
 
“Alter” girls might have been okayed by a Pope, but Cardinal Arinze thinks it was a mistake.

youtube.com/watch?v=KWByiwHE4MY

Non omne quod licet honestum est.
This was posted already and, while still a very wise and holy man, he’s *not *the Pope. … Or the US Council of Catholic Bishops… Or the “episcopacy” in general.

FYI: The misspelling has been mocked already too and deflates your argument since you are demonstrating with your first word that you are uncharitable.
 
I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

Listen to the start intro in the Vortex… “Welcome to the Vortex, where lies and falsehoods are cracked and exposed…”

If you would rather not know what is happening in the Church then just don’t watch…
It’s all and well that Michael Vortex can still see the sawdust in other’s eyes through the planks in his own. His show is the “COPS” of the self-appointed Church guardians, supposedly picking up the slack from the Holy Spirit, and allowing his viewers to cheer on the bullying of the less-holy-than-me miscreants. It’s big on righteous indignation and thin on the Gospels, and that’s called ‘awesome’?
 
It’s all and well that Michael Vortex can still see the sawdust in other’s eyes through the planks in his own. His show is the “COPS” of the self-appointed Church guardians, supposedly picking up the slack from the Holy Spirit, and allowing his viewers to cheer on the bullying of the less-holy-than-me miscreants. It’s big on righteous indignation and thin on the Gospels, and that’s called ‘awesome’?
“allowing his viewers to cheer on the bullying of the less-holy-than-me miscreants”

He exposes Catholic Organisations and Clergy who support Abortion/IVF/Gay Marriage/Euthanasia and condemns their actions. Is that not what we are supposed to do? Or are Catholics supposed to just turn a blind eye on heretical clergy/organisations?
 
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