Reason for past wars religious or political dogma?

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I have read that the only reasons for past wars are religious or political dogma? If true that doesn’t say much for religion. I find it ludicrous that in wars every side thinks God is on their side. There is also something that strikes me as ridiculous when I see photos or paintings of battlefield soldiers attending Mass or other church services, or crusaders marching into battle under the protection of religious icons and banners. Does God really take sides here? The Star Trek series got it right when the producers rejected the idea of an Enterprise chaplain. An MD and a Counselor was enough for the many episodes.
 
Wars are fought because of access to resources. Whatever the public reasons given are, God, King, Country, Volk, etc. are just marketing ploys to get people to support the effort.
 
I think He does. He kinda has to. I mean look at some of the military upsets throughout history: the American Revolution, the allied victory in WWII, and Constantine’s victory. God has helped support them because there is no way that the Americans could’ve won, the British evacuate from France, and Constantine conquer Rome without some sort of divine intervention.
 
The most destructive of wars; World War I and World War II, had no religious great cause behind them. One could argue there were some religious elements, but certainly religion did not trigger them.
 
Hitler made the same mistake than Napoleon in going after Russia. It is too vast and very hard to survive the winter, especially when Stalin burned everything along the way so you would starve.
 
Yes but I don’t think that there would’ve been an allied war effort to join. The evacuation at Dunkirk was a miracle. And the British could’ve easily trampled on us in the early stages before we got foreign aid.
 
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Wars are fought because of access to resources. Whatever the public reasons given are, God, King, Country, Volk, etc. are just marketing ploys to get people to support the effort.
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You can add territorial disputes to this list as well.
 
I don’t personally buy into the idea that Russia is too big to conquer.

The German’s certainly couldn’t do it in a two front war, but all of Russia’s supply trucks, raw materials, trains, etc. were being given to them by the US. Had we followed Patton’s advice and rearmed the Germans and knocked the Soviets out immediately following WWII I think we’d be looking at a much more peaceful world sans the cold war today.
 
I considered land to be a resource, but yes you are correct.
 
Well, you may have a good doubt. I think we’d at least be facing different problems. Part of the rise of Islamic fundamentalism can be directly contributed to the cold war, particularly Communist Afghanistan v Mujahadeen. The atheistic push of communism created a backlash from fundamentalists which the west funded to counter communism. Might have still seen that rise under the materialism and secularization that comes with western capitalism though so who knows.
 
ok but Islam will never take over Western Civilization. They already tried, and took as far as southern Spain, the Balkans and Hungary, but stopped at the gates of Vienna and Europe took back those places. May God protect us from the false prophet!
 
Oh I’m not worried about them taking over, I’m just referencing the continued conflict in their region between the ones who wish to be more modern and those who want to live under strict Sharia.

Although if demographic trends continue in Europe they may outpace them over time and replace the native European populace through the higher birth rate.
 
No but what I’m saying is what if England fell. I don’t see how an invasion across the sea by the Americans would’ve worked.
 
If that had happened,it would have been much more difficult. However, the German navy was so inferior to the British that they’d have never been able to move sufficient troops across the channel to hold anything. That’s why the Germans WWI and II used so many subs. It’s also why in WWII Churchill had the British navy fire on French warships after the surrender of the French killing a bunch of French sailors. Couldn’t risk the Germans seizing the second best navy in the world.
 
It’s certainly trending this way. Take for instance The Netherlands, where there are mosques all over country. I would reckon Islam is the most practiced religion since a vast majority of the populous consider themselves to be non-affiliated.

Sorry, for going a bit off topic.
 
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Still, Hitler could’ve won the war by not invading the soviets and diverting the navy by focusing on the Mediterranean. I think that they could’ve won. Or at the very least sued for peace and kept a lot of territory.
 
Psalm 144

Blessed be the LORD, my rock,
who trains my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle;
he is my steadfast love and my fortress,
my stronghold and my deliverer,
my shield and he in whom I take refuge,
who subdues peoples under me.
 
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