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damooster
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They why did Msgr. Guido Marini (Master of Pontifical Liturgical Celebrations) say this:
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savienu
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That quote doesn’t say the 2 practices are equal, does it? No. But there’s no convincing some people. As long as it’s “tolerated” it’s just as good as the ancient practices that came from centuries of doctrinal development and which sustained and sanctified the Saints. I notice you ignored the rest of my post, too, interestingly. I think I’ll just take a cue from Sancto Spiritu and give an
and move on.
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GodIsGracious
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woot!!! :clapping::dancing::extrahappy:(I thought I’d post this here, even though I’m not a traditionalist)
See the title.
I had been wanting to do this for a long time, having come to the conclusion that it was the most proper way in which to receive the Blessed Sacrament, but could never summon up the courage to change my long-accustomed habit. Luckily, when I came to the altar rail today at my parish OF mass, everyone near me was kneeling (many people, including myself until today, do not kneel at the rail), so I felt more comfortable kneeling with them. From that lower vantage point, it seemed more natural to receive on the tongue, so I did, though I may have inadvertently made it somewhat difficult for the EMOHC, as I hardly extended my tongue at all.The fact that it was an EMOHC and not the parish priest somehow made it seem less awkward, although our parish priest has nothing against receiving on the tongue. Hopefully I’ll do the same next week.
Deo Gratias.
—Soler.
I remember sometime in the early 80’s, when I was living in southern California, hearing about how we’re going to start being able to receive the Eucharist in our hands and that there was a special way (demonstrated) to make sure that we don’t drop the Eucharist.
Even though I was a teen, even then I knew this didn’t “seem” right. I dunno. Why would anyone want to handle the body of God? Seemed … I dunno. I just didn’t like it. I left the Church for about 20 years or so (not joining any other, however!) and the few fits and starts I “tried” (half heartedly) to come back I decided to “try something different” and receive in the hand.
Oh man, I can’t even tell you how uncomfortable I was holding the precious Eucharist in my hand. I was so afraid I’d drop it! Fortunately I never did. I only did that a couple of times. I just simply do not like receiving in the hand so I receiving on my tongue.
Now. I’ve progressed on to wearing a mantilla during Mass. I find that helps me to stay focused. I don’t turn my head for fear of it falling. LOL! But that’s a discussion for another thread.
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damooster
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How convenient for you!I think I’ll just take a cue from Sancto Spiritu and give an
I’m not the enemy here; we’re all brothers and sisters! I receive on the tongue too! All I’m saying is that you can’t fault people for choosing an option that was made available to them. Until that option is taken away, who are you, or we, to tell people not to use that option?
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edders
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I became a Catholic in the Easter Vigil this year and am pleased to say I have only ever received on the tongue. I was confirmed at the Oxford Oratory (UK) and the priest there said, for our first communion, we should all receive on the tongue (there were about 10 of us). I have carried on as I started!
I recently went to a week long silent retreat of guided prayer. There were about 30 people there. I was the ONLY one who received on the tongue when we went up to the priest at the daily mass (most of the people there were middle-aged women… I guess it’s what they’re used to doing). I just leant my head forward and clasped my hands together in front of me. Seemed to do the trick!
I assume that all priests MUST know how to distribute on the tongue, even if it happens only rarely?
I recently went to a week long silent retreat of guided prayer. There were about 30 people there. I was the ONLY one who received on the tongue when we went up to the priest at the daily mass (most of the people there were middle-aged women… I guess it’s what they’re used to doing). I just leant my head forward and clasped my hands together in front of me. Seemed to do the trick!
I assume that all priests MUST know how to distribute on the tongue, even if it happens only rarely?
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GodIsGracious
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Hrm. I guess a priest can either place the Host on the tongue or in the hand. I didn’t think there was any special difference between the two. Maybe there is?I became a Catholic in the Easter Vigil this year and am pleased to say I have only ever received on the tongue. I was confirmed at the Oxford Oratory (UK) and the priest there said, for our first communion, we should all receive on the tongue (there were about 10 of us). I have carried on as I started!
I recently went to a week long silent retreat of guided prayer. There were about 30 people there. I was the ONLY one who received on the tongue when we went up to the priest at the daily mass (most of the people there were middle-aged women… I guess it’s what they’re used to doing). I just leant my head forward and clasped my hands together in front of me. Seemed to do the trick!
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Bob_Crowley
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What difference does it make? You’re still receiving the body of Christ whether it’s in the hand or on the tongue.(I thought I’d post this here, even though I’m not a traditionalist)
See the title.
I had been wanting to do this for a long time, having come to the conclusion that it was the most proper way in which to receive the Blessed Sacrament, but could never summon up the courage to change my long-accustomed habit. Luckily, when I came to the altar rail today at my parish OF mass, everyone near me was kneeling (many people, including myself until today, do not kneel at the rail), so I felt more comfortable kneeling with them. From that lower vantage point, it seemed more natural to receive on the tongue, so I did, though I may have inadvertently made it somewhat difficult for the EMOHC, as I hardly extended my tongue at all.
—Soler.
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GodIsGracious
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Apparently it made enough of a difference to the OP to 1) try it out and 2) post about his experiences.
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recklev
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As a very seasoned citizen (68) I am very nostalgic for the era of the big long communion rail where we received kneeling and the priest moved right to left, and left to right, accompanied by an alter server holding a paten.
I am also nostalgic for bells, as our parish has dispensed with them. We still have kneelers and stations.
I am also nostalgic for bells, as our parish has dispensed with them. We still have kneelers and stations.
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Sancto_Spiritu
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If you are nostalgic for those things, it might be good to find an Extraordinary Form Mass (if you’re unfamiliar with that term, it means Mass as it was celebrated when you were a kid). Depending upon where you live, there could be one close by.
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GodIsGracious
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That’s why I drive 30 minutes to the church I attend. It has all that, well… except for the paten and there are EMHCs who help distribute communion. But hey… it’s got at least some bells! If not all the whistles.
Check around in your area to find a Mass that may be more to your liking. I found myself a Lifeteen Mass one night and I was reminded as to how there are many different styles of Mass for the many different styles of Catholics. (I was also the ONLY one wearing a mantilla there. My regular parish that seems more traditional has more than a few women wearing them.)
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Sancto_Spiritu
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It seems to me you’re saying that having many different “styles” of Mass is a good thing. But even if you’re not saying that, it gives me an opportunity to make a point:That’s why I drive 30 minutes to the church I attend. It has all that, well… except for the paten and there are EMHCs who help distribute communion. But hey… it’s got at least some bells! If not all the whistles.
Check around in your area to find a Mass that may be more to your liking. I found myself a Lifeteen Mass one night and I was reminded as to how there are many different styles of Mass for the many different styles of Catholics. (I was also the ONLY one wearing a mantilla there. My regular parish that seems more traditional has more than a few women wearing them.)
Having different “styles” of Mass is not a positive thing. The word “Catholic” in its original Greek means “universal.” Mass should not suit human beings, it should suit God. We Catholics can all be different in our daily lives, but it is the Mass - the universal sacrifice - that binds us as Catholics, in our Catholicism. It is what makes us Catholic. It should be in a common language and have common rituals.
Catholics should be able to go to Mass in Japan, Canada, Germany, Russia, and America, and should feel completely comfortable wherever they go. How should this be achieved? Mass should be the same everywhere.
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savienu
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While I want to preface that I agree with you when it comes to the Latin Rite, there should not be multiple “styles” of Masses, not every Mass for every Catholic is the same- we have the Eastern Rite Catholics who have the same liturgy for their particular rite, but has always differed from the Latin Rite. I see and understand what you are saying though. If I go to a Melkite Catholic Church in America, and then go to a Melkite Church in Lebanon, it’s going to look (and sound) the same, except perhaps for the homily spoken in the native tongue. The Latin Rite having all these different “forms” is just weird, and, might I add, a novelty.
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GodIsGracious
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First of all… I agree with you!!!
I was being … politically correct.
As it is, that particular parish has a “risen Christ crucifix” where there should be a CRUCIFIX! When I saw that I thought, “Crud. This is one of THOSE churches.”I didn’t like it. It was one of those “theatre in the round” type churches and there was no tabernacle at the altar. There was a band playing and I could not think, let alone pray. I felt like I was waiting for a show to start. It’s not my regular parish and since it was closer to us we decided to go there.
I promise you. I *will *make sure I take the time to go to my regular parish when I attend a Latin Rite Mass. (Sometimes I go with my boyfriend to his Byzantine church, which is Eastern Rite. Divine Liturgy and that parish is amazing and beautiful.)
So… just so you know… I was just trying to be “P.C.” I didn’t like it at all. But I was there for Mass, for communion, so I focused on that.
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GodIsGracious
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Beat me to it, Savienu! I was just making my post at the same time as yours.
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savienu
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Yeah, I saw that too.Beat me to it, Savienu! I was just making my post at the same time as yours.
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Sancto_Spiritu
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Good for you! Byzantine churches are really cool. And kudos on finding a boyfriend who is devout enough to stick with his Byzantine heritage. I’m 23 and finding good women at college is difficult these days!First of all… I agree with you!!!
I was being … politically correct.
I didn’t like it. It was one of those “theatre in the round” type churches and there was no tabernacle at the altar. There was a band playing and I could not think, let alone pray. I felt like I was waiting for a show to start. It’s not my regular parish and since it was closer to us we decided to go there.
I promise you. I *will *make sure I take the time to go to my regular parish when I attend a Latin Rite Mass. (Sometimes I go with my boyfriend to his Byzantine church, which is Eastern Rite. Divine Liturgy and that parish is amazing and beautiful.)
So… just so you know… I was just trying to be “P.C.” I didn’t like it at all. But I was there for Mass, for communion, so I focused on that.
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SHW
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Communion on the tongue was not “the” original way. I read somewhere that the reason they stopped communion in the hand was because of abuses: hosts were saved and then used in satanic masses, etc.
This is noted in an early church writing dated 350 A.D.
Writing in 350 A.D. Theodore of Mospsuestia, in Homily XV wrote of communion in the hand, “do not approach with hands extended and fingers open wide. Rather make of your left hand a throne for your right as it is about to receive your King, and receive the Body of Christ in the fold of your hand, responding ‘Amen.’… Take care that you do not even lose one piece of that which is more precious than gold or precious stones.”
from: catholicfaithandreason.org/fathersoneucharist.htm
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MissMichal
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Thanks for posting this! As a convert, I’ve always been afraid of receiving on the tongue because a) I had never done it and was afraid of doing it “wrong,” and b) it’s quite unusual for anyone in our parish, save the Dominicans, to receive that way. I’ve only ever seen one person kneel Honestly, until I started coming here, I hadn’t thought it was important. In RCIA, we were not exactly actively discouraged from receiving on the tongue, but when we practiced, we were shown how to receive in the hand, and we were told that the tongue was a vestige of the “old way,” like a headcovering (which, by the way, I also feel called to employ).
That’s a long way of saying that I think I will stick my tongue out on Sunday
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Honestly, until I started coming here, I hadn’t thought it was important. In RCIA, we were not exactly actively discouraged from receiving on the tongue, but when we practiced, we were shown how to receive in the hand, and we were told that the tongue was a vestige of the “old way,” like a headcovering (which, by the way, I also feel called to employ).That’s a long way of saying that I think I will stick my tongue out on Sunday
Pax,
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Pat_the_elder
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Hi to all. I came across this thread more by accident than design. I don’t like to pidgeonhole myself (or others) by descriptions like “Traditionalist” or “Modernist” or any other “ist”. I find like most people that there is merit in ALL camps within the Catholic Church. However, I digress… I am an EMOHC. I was taught to hold the Blessed Sacrament at the recipients eye-level for a moment whilst saying “The Body of Christ”. This moment of contemplation as well as giving the recipient (and me) a chance to reflect on the enormity of the event, gives the EMOHC or priest or Deacon the chance to see if the recipient is wanting to take the host in their hands or on their tongue. Although here in Scotland reception in the hand is the most popular method, there are still a lot of people who wish to receive the Eucharist on their tongue. As to the “right” way, I have no strong feelings, but do remember an old PP years ago telling my father, who was unsure about taking communion in his hand. “More harm can caused by a spiteful tongue than a kindly handshake”.
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