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The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.

Could someone explain it?
 
The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.

Could someone explain it?
What about it is confusing?
 
The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.

Could someone explain it?
There have been times when Catholics have walked out of church with the host to use it at home for any purpose really, but particularly an anti-Catholic one, and those that have done it are excommunicated no questions asked.
 
The Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. To destroy it, misuse it, steal it, or any matter of disrespect towards it is completely wrong and evil. This can lead to excommunication. Why wouldn’t it? It is a direct hatred towards God, and would be a huge mortal sin.
 
The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.

Could someone explain it?
It means very specifically to remove the Body of Christ from the church for some purpose that is opposed to the Christian faith.

Sometimes examples help.

Selling or giving the Host to a local cult. Providing it to an “artist” for use in a display. Mocking It or stomping on It, or similar.

What it does not mean, which is where people sometimes misunderstand:

It does not mean “I received Communion today, but I’m such an unworthy sinner that it was sacrilege.” It does not mean “I am offering this Communion for my sick cat to get better” or “for the home team to win today’s game.” Such intentions might be misguided, but are not sacrilegious.
 
The Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. To destroy it, misuse it, steal it, or any matter of disrespect towards it is completely wrong and evil. This can lead to excommunication. Why wouldn’t it? It is a direct hatred towards God, and would be a huge mortal sin.
what about consuming in a state of mortal sin?
 
arent sacriligous and sacrilige the same? It also says sacriligous purpose would taking unwothily not fall under sacriligous purpous? this is what im confused about?
 
arent sacriligous and sacrilige the same? It also says sacriligous purpose would taking unwothily not fall under sacriligous purpous? this is what im confused about?
As I wrote earlier: that is a different issue. The canon about excommunication is not addressing the issue of someone receiving Communion in an unworthy state.

The canon is about someone who walks away with a Consecrated Host for sacrilegious purposes (ie “steals” a Host). It is not about the status of the person receiving Communion.
 
The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.Could someone explain it?
Fr. David gave you the correct answer.

I think you may be confusing two things. The Catechism says that:
2120 *Sacrilege *consists in profaning or treating unworthily the sacraments and other liturgical actions, as well as persons, things, or places consecrated to God. Sacrilege is a grave sin especially when committed against the Eucharist, for in this sacrament the true Body of Christ is made substantially present for us.52
I cannot find anywhere in the Catechism where it talks about excommunication for Sacrilege.

However, if we look to Canon Law we do find Canon 1367:
Can. 1367 A person who throws away the consecrated species or takes or retains them for a sacrilegious purpose incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; moreover, a cleric can be punished with another penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state.
So I can commit the sin of sacrilege in any number of ways against the host, or the Mass, or a Priest but automatic excommunication only occurs for specific sacrilegious acts against the Host.

Does that help any?
 
The chatechism says that taking and or reciving the host for a sacriligious purpose incurs an automatic excommunication. Im sort of confused as to what this means.

Could someone explain it?
It’s meaning to Me, seems clear, WHILE its application seems to ME, not so much so.

It means that ANYONE who is a “IPC” [informed practicing Catholic] who KNOWINGLY accepts the Sacred Host [JESUS Himself] for the purpose of disparaging it; and therefore GOD; is “automatically” excommunicated from the RCC. Which I [ME HERE] think requires a Bishops approval to reinstate same?

Such a person would be coming further MORTAL sins by availing themselves from the Sacraments without TRUE Repentance, Confession and approval.

I point out that my second point is valid because these sinister acts are usually concealed and not known to the Priest or Bishops.

GBY
 
It’s meaning to Me, seems clear, WHILE its application seems to ME, not so much so.

It means that ANYONE who is a “IPC” [informed practicing Catholic] who KNOWINGLY accepts the Sacred Host [JESUS Himself] for the purpose of disparaging it; and therefore GOD; is “automatically” excommunicated from the RCC. Which I [ME HERE] think requires a Bishops approval to reinstate same?

Such a person would be coming further MORTAL sins by availing themselves from the Sacraments without TRUE Repentance, Confession and approval.

I point out that my second point is valid because these sinister acts are usually concealed and not known to the Priest or Bishops.

GBY
What is “unclear” about the application?

As I’ve written a few times now, the canon is not about a situation where a Catholic receives Communion unworthily. It seems like that’s what you’re saying, but I’m not quite certain. It’s also not about a non-Catholic who receives accidentally or in some misguided manner (such as at the invitation of someone).

It is about someone who removes the Host from the church building for some purpose opposed to the Faith.

Receiving unworthily is simply not the issue being addressed in the canon.

Aside: reserved to the Apostolic See means reserved to Rome, not the local bishop.
 
What is “unclear” about the application?

As I’ve written a few times now, the canon is not about a situation where a Catholic receives Communion unworthily. It seems like that’s what you’re saying, but I’m not quite certain. It’s also not about a non-Catholic who receives accidentally or in some misguided manner (such as at the invitation of someone).

It is about someone who removes the Host from the church building for some purpose opposed to the Faith.

Receiving unworthily is simply not the issue being addressed in the canon.

Aside: reserved to the Apostolic See means reserved to Rome, not the local bishop.
AGREED!

GBY Father

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