Receivng Communion on your Hand

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Yep.

And there is also another reason they won’t admit, which is connected to the use of EMHC.
It saves their precious time. Get’s us out of church faster
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How haunting are these words…

Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pray for us
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Have Mercy on us
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AND, the reasons that so many are EEM’s are not often discussed, either. 😉
 
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Ah, now that figures. Actually, the correct term is EMHC (Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion). There are official Church guidelines as to when they are to be deployed, but I’m guessing you ignore those too. Your ulterior motive has been revealed. If we corrected this recent fad of CITH espeicially by non consecrated hands, you wouldn’t be able to distribute Holy Communion.
 
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I seriously think I would ever be asked to recieve Communiom from the Pope, and I understand if you do not want to receive it on the tongue then you will not receive from the Pope.
And the norm for the USA is what is important to me. The only disrespect I see is judging one in how one takes Communion.
Could you translate that into English for the rest of us please?
 
By harm–I mean that each particle of the Host IS Jesus Christ, meaning that every single tiny piece that could possibly come off the host unknowingly when you take the Host off your left hand with your right… you often do not lick your hand to receive each particle… you often put your hand down or something, so these little unseen particles (JESUS CHRIST) fall to the ground–no one would want that.
If they are unseen, how do you know they don’t fall to the ground regardless of the mode of reception?
 
Taking Communion in ones hand is TAKING Christ! !
This is not what the Church teaches. One still RECEIVES, just in the hand instead of on the tongue.

The Church is quite clear that the laity are NOT to take communion themselves, and so the Church approved liturgical law (which includes communion in the hand) is not a violation of that.
 
I really don’t like being repetitive although so many here do (it’s in the GIRM!..it’s in the GIRM!) but seeing as though so many have either not bothered to read or choose to ignore the Holy Father’s teaching on this subject, I’ll list it again.

*From the responses received it is thus clear that by far the greater number of bishops feel that the present discipline should not be changed at all, indeed that if it were changed, this would be offensive to the sensibilities and spiritual appreciation of these bishops and of most of the faithful.

After he had considered the observations and the counsel of those whom “the Holy Spirit has placed as bishops to rule” (11) the Churches, in view of the seriousness of the matter and the importance of the arguments proposed, the Supreme Pontiff judged that the long received manner of ministering Holy Communion to the faithful should not be changed.
Code:
  The Apostolic See therefore strongly urges bishops, priests, and people to observe zealously this law, valid and again confirmed, according to the judgment of the majority of the Catholic episcopate, in the form which the present rite of the sacred liturgy employs, and out of concern for the common good of the Church. *
catholictradition.org/Eucharist/memoriale.htm

Pope Paul VI was on the seat of St. Peter when CITH resurfaced in Holland. It was considered a liturgical abuse. The Pope consulted his bishops who voted against CITH. The Pope, as God’s representative on Earth instructed the faithful not to practice CITH. Unfortunately, during the Age of Aquarius, rebellion was trendy and popular. CITH spread under the guise of “spirit of Vatican II” and forced upon most parishes in the Western world. Communion rails were ripped out, clamshell churches replaced those in the shape of the Cross, EMHCs stormed into the Sanctuary and CITH became the de facto norm.

I realize after reading many pages of this thread that personal preference and ego is involved here so I don’t expect instant conversions. However, my argument has always remained rational, historical, and logical. All I’ve seen in return is insults, false accusations, false claims of history, distractions, and avoidance of the issue.

CITH was a liturgical abuse ruled so by the Pope and bishops. Therefore it’s spread was contrary to Church teaching and laws. Once again I’ll say, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t base your entire argument on “it’s in the GIRM” when CITH’s very existence was contrary to the GIRM of the day and specifically forbidden by the Holy Church.
 
I really don’t like being repetitive although so many here do (it’s in the GIRM!..it’s in the GIRM!) but seeing as though so many have either not bothered to read or choose to ignore the Holy Father’s teaching on this subject, I’ll list it again.

*From the responses received it is thus clear that by far the greater number of bishops feel that the present discipline should not be changed at all, indeed that if it were changed, this would be offensive to the sensibilities and spiritual appreciation of these bishops and of most of the faithful. *

After he had considered the observations and the counsel of those whom “the Holy Spirit has placed as bishops to rule” (11) the Churches, in view of the seriousness of the matter and the importance of the arguments proposed, the Supreme Pontiff judged that the long received manner of ministering Holy Communion to the faithful should not be changed.
Code:
  The Apostolic See therefore strongly urges bishops, priests, and people to observe zealously this law, valid and again confirmed, according to the judgment of the majority of the Catholic episcopate, in the form which the present rite of the sacred liturgy employs, and out of concern for the common good of the Church.
catholictradition.org/Eucharist/memoriale.htm

Pope Paul VI was on the seat of St. Peter when CITH resurfaced in Holland. It was considered a liturgical abuse. The Pope consulted his bishops who voted against CITH. The Pope, as God’s representative on Earth instructed the faithful not to practice CITH. Unfortunately, during the Age of Aquarius, rebellion was trendy and popular. CITH spread under the guise of “spirit of Vatican II” and forced upon most parishes in the Western world. Communion rails were ripped out, clamshell churches replaced those in the shape of the Cross, EMHCs stormed into the Sanctuary and CITH became the de facto norm.

I realize after reading many pages of this thread that personal preference and ego is involved here so I don’t expect instant conversions. However, my argument has always remained rational, historical, and logical. All I’ve seen in return is insults, false accusations, false claims of history, distractions, and avoidance of the issue.

CITH was a liturgical abuse ruled so by the Pope and bishops. Therefore it’s spread was contrary to Church teaching and laws. Once again I’ll say, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t base your entire argument on “it’s in the GIRM” when CITH’s very existence was contrary to the GIRM of the day and specifically forbidden by the Holy Church.
If it was a liturgical abuse then why did Pope Paul approve it? Are you saying the Pope (and the Church) approves liturgical abuses? Or does that mean that he’s not really God’s representative here on earth?
 
Ah, now that figures. Actually, the correct term is EMHC (Extraordina offical guidlinesry Minister of Holy Communion). There are official Church guidelines as to when they are to be deployed, but I’m guessing you ignore those too. Your ulterior motive has been revealed. If we corrected this recent fad of CITH espeicially by non consecrated hands, you wouldn’t be able to distribute Holy Communion.

Oops sorry oh perfect one that I left out a couple of letters. What is the guidlines I am ignoring? And according to you my ulterior motive is??? And it won’t be done away with. But perhaps you will:thumbsup:
 
If it was a liturgical abuse then why did Pope Paul approve it? Are you saying the Pope (and the Church) approves liturgical abuses? Or does that mean that he’s not really God’s representative here on earth?
Ask him yourself Digger, if you make it to heaven.

You are beyond annoying. I do my best to ignore your posts, but you obviously get the better of me sometimes. I will pray for more patience.
 
Oops sorry oh perfect one that I left out a couple of letters. What is the guidlines I am ignoring? And according to you my ulterior motive is??? And it won’t be done away with. But perhaps you will:thumbsup:
Seriously? You aren’t familiar with the guidelines for EMHCs?

Actually, that doesn’t surprise me on second thought.

I pray EMHCs will become extinct in my lifetime…along with their self-importance.
 
Ask him yourself Digger, if you make it to heaven.

You are beyond annoying. I do my best to ignore your posts, but you obviously get the better of me sometimes. I will pray for more patience.
Thank you for your prayers.

How about just answering the questions? You say CITH is an abuse, but the Pope and Church approve it. So what are you really saying? I don’t care if you ignore me, but if you’re going to participate in this thread it would be decent if you didn’t ignore questions people ask you.
 
:eek:

I seriously think I would ever be asked to recieve Communiom from the Pope, and I understand if you do not want to receive it on the tongue then you will not receive from the Pope.
And the norm for the USA is what is important to me. The only disrespect I see is judging one in how one takes Communion.
Could you translate that into English for the rest of us please?
Could you be a bit more respectful?

There is nothing wrong with the “English” that tweetymom used.

Those who judge others who chose to receive CITH are being disrespectful, to say the very least.

The Church allows for CITH and there is nothing wrong with making the choice to receive in that manner when it is allowed. To say otherwise is to be disobedient to the Teaching authority of the Catholic Church.
 
Thank you for your prayers.

How about just answering the questions? You say CITH is an abuse, but the Pope and Church approve it. So what are you really saying? I don’t care if you ignore me, but if you’re going to participate in this thread it would be decent if you didn’t ignore questions people ask you.
I am not praying for you.

The universal norm of the Church is COTT. CITH is an indult - an exeption not an approval. How many times do I need to explain that to you and yours?.

You have ignored the questions. Actually, please just go away. You have yet to offer anything substantial to this thread. Tweety puts up a better argument although I’ve had more rational debates with foaming at the mouth Fundies (not many, but some).
 
Seriously? You aren’t familiar with the guidelines for EMHCs?

Actually, that doesn’t surprise me on second thought.

I pray EMHCs will become extinct in my lifetime…along with their self-importance.
You certainally like to put words in peoples mouths, Did I say I wasn’t familiar with the guidlines/
? Only asked you which ones you think I am breaking?n And maybe you and people like you will be extinct before long. Oh one can only hope
 
I am not praying for you.

The universal norm of the Church is COTT. CITH is an indult - an exeption not an approval. How many times do I need to explain that to you and yours?.

You have ignored the questions. Actually, please just go away. You have yet to offer anything substantial to this thread. Tweety puts up a better argument although I’ve had more rational debates with foaming at the mouth Fundies (not many, but some).
You still ignore the questions. I guess resorting to personal attacks is more effective?

So what if it’s an indult? It’s still approved, by the Pope and the Church.

Waiting…
 
Could you be a bit more respectful?

There is nothing wrong with the “English” that tweetymom used.
My apologies. Tweety, could you please use English that the rest of us can comprehend?

There. Is that better? If anyone has shown disrespect it is her: apparently I don’t find joy in God.
Those who judge others who chose to receive CITH are being disrespectful, to say the very least.
Who’s judging? I’m just presenting the Church’s teachings for the past 1800 years or so.
The Church allows for CITH and there is nothing wrong with making the choice to receive in that manner when it is allowed. To say otherwise is to be disobedient to the Teaching authority of the Catholic Church.
It’s an INDULT! The Church teaches the proper way to receive Christ is COTT. CITH is the clearest example of disobedience in our recent history. Did you read my post citing Pope Paul’s statement?
 
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