Recent article: "Pope Francis will probably resign" most likely true

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Hopefully, Pope Francis will continue to serve for many years to come.
But if he wants to retire that should be his choice when he feels that it is time to step down.
 
Pope Francis is in his 80s, so, if he did, I honestly wouldn’t blame him. La Croix is a French site, so, I am going to see what the French version says. Some people like Pope Francis, some don’t. His retirement is up to him and him alone. God bless him for his service to the Church, though.
 
I think Pope Francis might be sensitive to the question of TWO living ex-popes. I suspect that the death of Pope Emeritus Benedict might be a major influence in this matter.
 
Many countries, like the U.S. have ex-presidents or ex-prime ministers. It doesn’t create a crisis.

I don’t think that having two retired Popes wouldn’t create a crisis, in itself. Like anything else, we have no say in the matter and I think we’d all survive either way. We’ve been surprised, if anything, about the priorities of a non-European pope. The next Pope may be elected as an honorarium, too, as a transitional pope. Anything like that can happen.
 
The statistics are vital when talking about these sorts of things.
 
It’s not really a thread until there’s multiple flaggings and a suspension or two.
 
otrrl said:
Many countries, like the U.S. have ex-presidents or ex-prime ministers. It doesn’t create a crisis.

I don’t think that having two retired Popes wouldn’t create a crisis, in itself. Like anything else, we have no say in the matter and I think we’d all survive either way. We’ve been surprised, if anything, about the priorities of a non-European pope. The next Pope may be elected as an honorarium, too, as a transitional pope. Anything like that can happen.
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Gee, I called it a “question,” not a “crisis.” And I don’t think one can equate the routine of numerous ex-politicians/ heads of civil governments with the office of Pope. And while Pope Benedict’s resignation wasn’t unprecedented, I don’t believe there have EVER been two living valid former popes. So yeah, it’s a question.
 
This. This. This.
Many lay Catholics have created this mythology around the papacy that almost makes it a fourth degree of Holy orders. He is a bishop. The Bishop of Rome. A special bishop with a special vocation and special authority, but still a bishop.

It used to be a novelty to have a living Bishop Emeritus in the diocese… now it’s the norm.
 
I hope not, I like Pope Francis. But if he does, then I believe it is because God called him to do so. I will just leave this decisión to God, as he knows better. 😉
 
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But, if the USCCB responded well in 2002, why are the scandals still happening now?
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First, most cases are older than 2002. Second, responding well will never involve a perfect of all mankind. The idea that there is a way to address child abuse in a way that will eliminate it is naive. Practically speaking, a drastic reduction is a success.

All child abuse is unforgivable, but it does not show that the Church failed to address it, any more than it shows that police (the people actually responsible for reducing crime) failed to address it.
 
It takes about 30 years on average for a person to say that they have been abused.
 
right. I was extrapolating your “question” to “crisis” on that point. Why would he hesitate, what “question” might he have, except that it causes a problem or even a “crisis”?

Your “question” might his “crisis.” When a pope has a “question” – that’s a crisis. Why would Benedict’s longevity affect his theoretical right to resign, if he so chose? A pope who resigned might be more concerned about his successor, rather than his predecessor, living or dead, especially if he was concerned about someone who would maintain his legacy.

In just his few years on the chair of Peter, he has already appointed a majority of cardinal electors heading into the next conclave.

I don’t think the idea in the title of this topic has been established, that it is “most likely true” that he will resign.
 
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Francis resigning would not create three Popes any more than Benedict’s resignation created two. As some of the other posters noted, it’s too early to tell and we must wait and see.
 
EOTT is great…

"The news comes just days after Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI told EOTT that he would welcome another former pope into his residence, so long as the incoming pope did not have cat allergies.

The former pope’s personal secretary, Archbishop Georg Ganswein, told EOTT that due to both Francis and Benedict’s insistence on getting the bottom bunk and other issues, the Vatican decided to simply open a retirement community to give incoming popes their own space."
 
Fets said:
For the record, I have certainly never said that there’s a way to address child abuse in a way that it is eliminated.
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First, I am indeed sorry if you took what I said personally. The way quotes work give that impression sometimes.

So I will rephrase, since eliminating child abuse is not possible, statistics are important. Again, law enforcement is the job of the police first and foremost, and child abuse is a crime. I said nothing about your person either. It is naive to think child abuse will be eliminated. Thus, the idea that it is still happening is not a valid criteria. You have produced no data that it is the same. That would be a valid criteria.
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The statistics are vital when talking about these sorts of things.
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HeDa said:
It takes about 30 years on average for a person to say that they have been abused.
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And that is part of the problem. If it could somehow be reported earlier, it could be duly prosecuted and the perpetrators punished, preventing many more from not being abused.
 
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