Recently found out what I'm experiencing is emotional abuse

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Well, to make a long story short, my boyfriend figured out that I have been emotionally abused–primarily by my dad, and my mom goes along with him. He pieced it together from when I’ve talked about my family, and from observing their actions. It took me a while to even consider accepting the possibility of emotional abuse–how can it really be abusive if they’re not hitting you?

So finally, I decided to look up the descriptions of it. And, my goodness, a lot of the symptoms of emotional abuse sounds familiar. But to be honest, I always thought it was normal, until my google search turned up information otherwise. It’s such a vague thing though. I always had a hard time putting the odd feeling I get about my family into words. I love them, and yet I schedule my days so I’m gone from home most of the time. I love my dad, but he’s convinced I don’t. I do my best not to “complain”, but whenever I do say something about something, he thinks I’m “whining every two minutes”.

(Once my sister’s new puppy bit my new skirt. I told her about it and asked her to pay attention to her dog–and then my dad really blew up. Apparently I was complaining. My mom sided with him and thought I was being manipulative by talking with my sister right out their door. The location was by pure chance–that’s where we happened to cross paths. Dad still talks poorly of that incident.)

I do my best not to disappoint them, and yet I still feel like I do. Like I chose not to vote yesterday–but he wouldn’t let me explain my reasoning, and just said he and Mom were very disappointed in me. He said I was just making excuses when I tried. And I wake up every morning wondering if Dad will be in a good mood or bad mood, or even just a really weird cross between the two. When it’s a weird mood, it’s almost like a form of mania (he has depression) and he teases us all. Not good naturedly-- we all know he is very disappointed in whatever he teases about. Like when I can’t hear him. I’m profoundly deaf, but I do quite well. But when Dad’s in a weird mood he talks quickly and loudly, and I can’t understand him when he’s like that. So I’ll ask him to repeat–but it’s such a ordeal whenever I do. He’s either hurt that I didn’t hear him. Or he’ll not talk to me at all. Or he’ll talk even louder, exaggerating his words. and that makes it even worse–I get so frustrated when he’s like that, my own dad!.

And anything I say to him I feel like will be used against me. The Miranda rights. If I say something like “oh, school was frustrating today.” he will sometimes say “just do the best you can.” But sometimes he feels the need to pontificate on that because I’m not behaving the way he thinks I should. Or sometimes he’ll ask about why it was frustrating, and then go on this angry rant at whoever was causing a problem at school, and several other people, too. (Once he was bashing my disabilities officer for not responding quickly enough to my emails. And then went on to bash my academic advisors and then the entire university. Not true–everybody is great at the university, but he always thinks poorly of them all.)

Or if I even talk about changing my major, then all of sudden both he and Mom think I’m changing my major too often, that I should stick with a plan. “If anything gets too hard for you, you just leave and try to find the path of least resistance. You should push a little harder.” That really cut me deep, them saying I was wimping out. But then my boyfriend pointed out it was the ONLY time I’ve changed majors. I went from English/Creative Writing to History. Within the same college!

I’ve always never had a friend I could tell everything to, either, and I realized why–anytime anybody gets too close I always back off. I’ve lost my friend of 5 years due to this. She was the person I was friends with the longest. I am so surprised I was able to talk with my boyfriend–and so freely too! I always thought relationships were fraught with secrets, and that people remained distant from their husbands/wives. (My dad had once asked me not to tell my mom that he has a credit card–from his start up business that never happened–when I accidentally found out. And my mom has always said not to tell my dad I know about his depression and his incredible debt. $140,000. At least!!!

(to be continued, since i just found out there’s a limit on how long to make the post. Sorry :()
 
No wonder they’re not helping me with school, though I am not getting any extra funds from the government because I’m supposed to be “rich”. And I told my mom that there might be a way for Financial Aid to adjust my award due to extreme debt, I would just need papers to prove it. Mom said that would be a very bad idea. Dad’s a spender, but if anybody suggests he can’t provide, then that’s apparently a severe blow to his ego. And guess what? If he files for bankruptcy, my money in my account is gone, 'cause his name is on it. (No good reason why–I asked once.) I’m not supposed to know about it, but boy, does it help me put things in perspective.

Whenever I’m home I’m always on edge in case Dad’s mood swings for the worse, and that’s the way it is always for my mom and siblings–homeschooled siblings. I feel so sorry for them. And after any of my dad’s outbursts, he never apologizes. I wonder if he feels guilty, but he doesn’t apologize because it will be a blow to his self-esteem. And yet we have to fall over apologizing. Honestly–this is not an exaggeration. Also whenever he does something for us, we have to fall over ourselves and thank him profusely. And you know, it’s better now than it used to be. Though Dad finally is taking medication for depression, and he is a little better, the pattern of behavior is still there.

sighs Wow. Sorry for the long rant-y post. I went off to say how I don’t think they are abusive, but the situations I talked about are just a few out of many others that are starting to come to mind. I’ve always tried to forget them. But you know, I always feel kinda depressed whenever I think about my dad and mom–I used to think I had the ability to make Dad happy and when he’s disappointed, I always feel like it’s my fault. It has taken many reminders from my BF that it’s not the case. And, being more conscious about how all this affected me, I realized that my heart races and I feel a cold dull/stabbing pain in my chest whenever I feel like I’ve possibly disappointed somebody, when people yell (even when happy), and when people get angry (I’m afraid they’ll start being angry at me and it’s somehow my fault). Or when people make loud noises–I have this one teacher that’s always pushing the table in the classroom forward so he has room, but he moves it in such a way that it makes me fearful, when I have no reason to. And so on. I’ve noticed that whenever I talk about my family, or when people get angry, I tend to disassociate myself from the situation. I have a regular personality and a personality where I can be there in body, but my spirit is elsewhere.

I still live at home though I am working on being independent so I can move out. Just applied for a second part time job. Pray that I can get it, please.

And thanks for not minding this rant too much. I’m just sorry this post got so long, but once I started writing it all started coming out. I could go to the counselor at my school, but I wouldn’t know where to begin, since I naturally avoid talking about this with people in person. Plus I’m afraid they may say “it’s normal”. Writing is so nice that I can talk without being judged.
 
Have you ever thought about seeing a counselor or therapist regarding this? Your parents may be normal people or they may not. I would suggest contacting the counseling department at your school for starters, or asking somebody you feel you can trust who is not your boyfriend. I suggest that only to make sure he doesn’t take the flack if it isn’t true, and isn’t the “discoverer” if it is.
 
Good point. I keep considering talking with a counselor at my school. I think I will schedule an appt as soon as I finish the midterms after today. Because I don’t have much in the way of trusted people I can talk to–only other person might be BF’s mom, who has a Masters in sociology. And thanks so much for pointing that out. I would hate for him to take the flak for it. I’ve googled it, and it fits. But yeah, probably would be better if a counselor verified it. Thanks.
 
Sorry you’re having to deal with this at home. :hug1: I see you’re working to move out on your own–good for you! 👍 The sooner you do that, the easier you will find it will be on you. Distance really helped me to heal.

And I second the PP’s suggestion to look into counseling. 👍
 
Don’t feel bad!!! Believe me you are not alone…for many who know my life’s story, it’s amazing to tell you it’s as if I wrote what you just wrote!! I too have grown up in a pretty interesting family…Even though no one believes me and my siblings say I am crazy and “oh poor victim!!!” But oh well, I guess such wonderful shows of emotional support makes you stronger!!!

I am not a victim, but I am respectful of my parents, and because of such I stay away from them as much as possible!! I love my parents to death and siblings but better separated than wrongly mixed!!! lol…The point is that the best thing to do is move on…Make your life the best way you can…I am trying…My mother has always been manipulative, even though she denies and calls me crazy! But it’s the truth, guess truth hurts everyone eh? But still, my father used to be alchy so abused her very much…

I have no hate towards anyone, nor any resentment, sometimes I feel overwhelmed and bad memories come back and I feel depressed but I look at my children and think of them and thanks to GOD’s love I am up and running again and trying to make it!! 😃

Just keep smiling, pray a lot, seek counseling if needed, speak with your priest, and keep your head up!! Never fall into depression or sadness, never allow yourself to hurt yourself by doubting in yourself…Because let me tell you I have done that all my life, always trying to make my family happy, and I have failed countless times even and especially when I believe I am doing everything possible to making them happy! We are supposed to honor our father and mother and as long as you are doing that the most important person to make happy is GOD then your children if you have any and then yourself…Remember that if you are not happy GOD is not happy and God wants all of His children to be happy! I try to be happy and sometimes it’s so hard to do but I try very hard and pray for His guidance and His never ending love to shine forth on me and help me be happy and for a while I was until my ex-DAMON’s follower-decides to contact me and ruin my peace!!! 😦 So just remember to keep your head up and may GOD bless you!!!
 
Thanks, kevinsgirl 🙂 :hug1:

And thanks, iluvmybabies! Wow–I always kinda thought perhaps I was the only person–kinda like I’m crazy. That’s why I never have told anybody prior to my boyfriend, the only one I’ve really trusted enough–and I figured, enough is enough, time to let it be known. And thanks so much for writing! Sorry you had to experience it too 😦 but it’s so nice to know I’m not the only one! And that is exactly how I feel. I love my family, but like you said, better separate than mixed together…living on my own will be tough but I can make it work just for the sake of feeling better 🙂

I have fallen into self-doubt and sadness too, but you’re right, we can’t let people ruin our self-esteem 🙂

Thanks so much for encouragements! I’m so relieved I could cry…just think of what will happen when I go see a counselor :o I think I get 10 free sessions at my university…but will make an appointment (though i’m SCARED to death of what might happen if I kept on telling what’s going on in my family, but that’s what moving out is for!)

Please, God, let me get this second part time job…
 
Thanks, kevinsgirl 🙂 :hug1:

And thanks, iluvmybabies! Wow–I always kinda thought perhaps I was the only person–kinda like I’m crazy. That’s why I never have told anybody prior to my boyfriend, the only one I’ve really trusted enough–and I figured, enough is enough, time to let it be known. And thanks so much for writing! Sorry you had to experience it too 😦 but it’s so nice to know I’m not the only one! And that is exactly how I feel. I love my family, but like you said, better separate than mixed together…living on my own will be tough but I can make it work just for the sake of feeling better 🙂

I have fallen into self-doubt and sadness too, but you’re right, we can’t let people ruin our self-esteem 🙂

Thanks so much for encouragements! I’m so relieved I could cry…just think of what will happen when I go see a counselor :o I think I get 10 free sessions at my university…but will make an appointment (though i’m SCARED to death of what might happen if I kept on telling what’s going on in my family, but that’s what moving out is for!)

Please, God, let me get this second part time job…
May GOD bless you and help you in this difficult time!! Remember if it’s meant to be you will get that second job…Take care and don’t be afraid…Counselors are there to help! Take the help while you can…And keep your head up! On your own might be a difficult challenge but let me tell you WAY WELL WORTH IT!! 😃 Take care GOD bless and KIT!!!
 
You are definitely not alone Holly. I spent my entire life unable to live up to being the man that would meet my father’s expectations. Whether my mother agreed with him or not, he was very domineering and nobody was going to stand up to him, so I knew from a very young age I was in it on my own. I lived with constantly hearing “you’ll never amount to anything” and “if I wanted your opinion I’d ask for it”, along with a litany of other little gems that kept me in a daze.

That kind of insidious abuse causes all kinds of weird stuff in our lives. It messes with our relationships, including marriages, because we never have “normal” relationships modeled and think that what we grew up with is the norm. It interferes with our ability to confide in people because we become convinced that nobody cares about our “whining”. Plus we don’t want to endure the humiliation that will come with another person not caring about what we think about or care about. The longer it goes on the deeper the scars and the harder it is to overcome them so I too agree that looking into counselling is a good idea.

I was into my fifties before I really came to grasp what had occurred and why I had compsensated in so many inappropriate ways. Why certain things could “trigger” me into a rage or into incredible sadness. Why I felt so lonely, even with a loving wife, since confiding was just not an option.

I did come to some reconcilliation shortly before my father died, and could honestly say that I had forgiven him. But the forgiveness, while it took a great load off my back, doesn’t erase the scars, nor does it change the crummy ways I sometimes respond to life because of what happened.

You are a beloved child of God, Holly! Please treat yourself as such and find the help that will let you know that. You may or may not ever be able to change the way your parents act but you can come to know that it isn’t the truth and it isn’t the way that any child deserves to be treated.

Peace be with you!
 
Holly, some of what you describe sounds like abuse and some does not - at least on its own. For example when they say you need to try as hard you can, then they aren’t being abusive (although please mind I can’t hear the tone of their voice or see their face expressions and so on). Other such admonitions may very well be a normal thing, just perhaps ill-timed and not considerate in the light of how it might affect you. What does sound abusive to me is that different rules exist for different people and that there’s a lot of pretending, a lot of walking on eggshells and a lot of blaming oneself for causing another to enter into rage or some other bad mood. That’s not normal. So what I can say, well, as just another person, not an expert or anything, that it’s not normal what you have to deal with, although I can’t tell how much of it is abuse and how much is people having some problems and instabilities and failing to be considerate. This is why I second the advice that you should talk to a therapist. Not because something is wrong with you, but because those people are experts in this kind of thing and they really can help. So give them a chance. 😉 Best wishes and prayers. And don’t feel guilty just because someone else wants you to.

I feel for you. I’ve had to deal with a lot of guilt-inducing in the past. This is why I became a lawyer and now I specialise in the rights of the accused and the necessity of hearing all evidence in any case, not even just criminal ones. The therapist might be able to teach you how to deal with all those things. The best way would be to find a Catholic one because of the moral nature of things involved.
 
No, Holly, you’re not alone. I, too, grew up in a dysfunctional family, and felt it was my role to make it function. Lucky for me, there was enough love to go around - but it was still damaging.

Here’s a little humor about it. I once saw a cartoon, showing a big convention hall, nearly empty. There were two or three smiling people in the seats. Across the back of the room was a big banner, saying, “Adult Children of Normal Families.” 😃

My sister and I coped by moving. Mom lived in Wash. D.C. I moved to Oregon, then Colorado; Sis to Colorado, then Michigan. It’s much easier to cope with the parents by phone. You can always hold it away from your ear! And in these days of high technology, you can just let it roll over to voice mail. 👍

Praying for you,

Ruthie
 
Thank you all for all of your encouragement–it really helps a lot 🙂

I’m glad to hear I’m not crazy; I thought all of it was normal admonishments and such, but knowing that some of it is not normal helps me so much. Like, this morning my dad wouldn’t talk to me. I don’t know why. I tried to make some small talk about talking about the new puppy liking peanut butter (shared a little of PB&J from my lunch sandwich I was making), but he just barely responded. “mm”. Usually saying something like that would get him to talk, but it has happened before. He simply would ignore me. Could talk to Mom just fine, but not me. I can’t figure out what I did, though.

I still haven’t gotten up the courage to go make an appointment with the counselor at my school–did look it up and find out it’s all free. So I could continue as long as I need to…just need to actually go in and make an appointment…

I love that cartoon, Ruthie 😃 I haven’t seen it, but I can just picture it!

Anyway, priced some apartments and found one that would work well. The bonus is that it’s far enough away–they don’t like going past 72nd street, and it’s on 44th, and it’s so far south compared to where they are in my city. And what really makes it good is that it’s close enough to my BF’s house I could walk. His mom said that I can always come over for dinners! 👍 And BF said that so I don’t get lonely, he wants to help me get some cats (apt allows it). That way they can keep me company 🙂

All that I need is to hear back from the HR office at school…applied for a part time staff job that I need to secure. Also, I opened up a checking account at a different bank, so when the time comes all I have to do is to transfer the money over and Dad can’t touch it. Have a savings acct that I keep socking money away–did about $600 in a month and a half.
Doing things step by step 🙂
 
It is tempting to self diagnose on the internet, but, it is not a wise thing. See a professional counselor.

About moving out - a cat might keep you company but they do cost $$. If you cannot afford the vet bills, shots, food, etc. - wait on a pet until you are in a good solid job.
 
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