recieving Communion in a state of mortal Sin

[sloth]

Is it a mortal Sin if you receive communion with a mortal sin on your soul?

sort of an interesting question but an honest one.

what is one supposed to do if we aren’t supposed to receive communion with a mortal sin on our soul? do we just get a blessing from the Eucharistic Minister?

 

[DavidFilmer]

Is it a mortal Sin if you receive communion with a mortal sin on your soul?

No. A mortal sin is a sin that causes us to forfeit our Sanctifying Grace.

A person in mortal sin has already done that, so he has nothing to loose. Mortal sins cannot be compounded.

It is, however, an offense to the dignity of the Body and Blood, so it should be included in your next Confession.

 

[sloth]

No. A mortal sin is a sin that causes us to forfeit our Sanctifying Grace.

A person in mortal sin has already done that, so he has nothing to loose. Mortal sins cannot be compounded.

It is, however, an offense to the dignity of the Body and Blood, so it should be included in your next Confession.

I am referring to a situation where one commits a mortal sin then goes to confession. then remembered that he received the Eucharist while he had the mortal sin on his soul.

I still plan on going to confession about this regardless. I was just looking for some guidance. i am just concerned that I am doing something wrong if i had partaken in the Eucharist with a mortal sin on my soul and not confessed it.

 

[DavidFilmer]

I am referring to a situation where one commits a mortal sin then goes to confession. then remembered that he received the Eucharist while he had the mortal sin on his soul.

If you made a “good confession” (meaning you confessed all serious sins that you could remember at the time) then any unconfessed sins are also absolved.

You do not need to mention this in your next confession, unless you suspect that maybe some small part of you deliberately failed to mention it.

 

[ProdglArchitect]

You do not need to mention this in your next confession, unless you suspect that maybe some small part of you deliberately failed to mention it.

My understanding has always been that if you remember a mortal sin that was not confessed in an earlier confession, you are obligated to confess it at your next confession. You are forgiven for the sin from your earlier confession, but are still required to humble yourself and acknowledge your failings to the priest.

Also, you can certainly compound mortal sins. If I masturbate twice, I may have forfeited my saving grace the first time, but the second time remains a mortal sin that I am obligated to confess. In order for it to be a mortal sin it has to be grave matter, the person must have knowledge that it is sinful, and the person must enter into the act willingly. Losing sanctifying grace is not a qualifier for an act to be a mortal sin.

To the OP, since you’ve already had a valid confession you’re not in danger of losing your salvation on account of your taking the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin, but you are required to confess it next time you go to confession. It sounds like you were going to do that anyways though. ^^

 

[sloth]

it appears to receive communion that one has to be in a state free of mortal sin… Knowingly receiving Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin is indeed the Mortal Sin of Sacrilege.

ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchb2a.htm

My understanding is that if you discover that you have committed a mortal sin that was previously un-confessed one has to seek out confession, or risk there salvation. is there any sources of information about topic?

 

[SHoJjhmou]

it appears to receive communion that one has to be in a state free of mortal sin… Knowingly receiving Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin is indeed the Mortal Sin of Sacrilege.

ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchb2a.htm

My understanding is that if you discover that you have committed a mortal sin that was previously un-confessed one has to seek out confession, or risk there salvation. is there any sources of information about topic?

I don’t have an exact source at the moment, but you do have to say unconfessed mortal sins.

They are forgiven, but you incur a new mortal sin by not confessing them.

 

[Vico]

Is it a mortal Sin if you receive communion with a mortal sin on your soul?

sort of an interesting question but an honest one.

what is one supposed to do if we aren’t supposed to receive communion with a mortal sin on our soul? do we just get a blessing from the Eucharistic Minister?

When you are not in a state of sanctifying grace, then abstain from the Eucharist, then you will not commit a sacrilege through unworthy reception.Baltimore Catechism No. 3:

Q. 599. What sin does he commit who receives the Sacraments of the living in mortal sin?
A. He who receives the Sacraments of the living in mortal sin commits a sacrilege, which is a great sin, because it is an abuse of a sacred thing.

Q. 600. In what other ways besides the unworthy reception of the Sacraments may persons commit sacrilege?
A. Besides the unworthy reception of the Sacraments, persons may commit sacrilege by the abuse of a sacred person, place or thing; for example, by willfully wounding a person consecrated to God; by robbing or destroying a Church; by using the sacred vessels of the Altar for unlawful purposes, etc.

Q. 792. What should we do if we cannot remember the number of our sins?
A. If we cannot remember the number of our sins, we should tell the number as nearly as possible, and say how often we may have sinned in a day, a week, or a month, and how long the habit or practice has lasted.

Q. 793. Is our Confession worthy if, without our fault, we forget to confess a mortal sin?
A. If without our fault we forget to confess a mortal sin, our Confession is worthy, and the sin is forgiven; but it must be told in Confession if it again comes to our mind.

 

[Joannm]

what is one supposed to do if we aren’t supposed to receive communion with a mortal sin on our soul? do we just get a blessing from the Eucharistic Minister?

Extraordinary ministers cannot impart a blessing. In fact our diocese discourages even priests and deacons giving blessing at communion as everyone is blessed at the end of Mass.

 

[InNomineDomini]

Extraordinary ministers cannot impart a blessing.

EMHC can say something like, “May God bless you”. But this business of raising their hands over a person certainly is not proper, and, as you mention, is sometimes deliberately and clearly mentioned as something to be avoided.

Also, there’s a question regarding whether we are **obligated **to confess forgotten mortal sins during our next Confession. But my understanding has always been that we are, and the only time I’ve ever heard to the contrary was on a radio show that Fr. Joseph Fessio, S.J. was on.

Here’s an article from Jimmy Akin which says we are obligated: jimmyakin.com/2006/09/a_reader_writes_1.html

Fr. Z. says the same: wdtprs.com/blog/2011/08/quaeritur-if-i-forget-to-confess-a-mortal-sin-am-i-still-forgiven/

Fr. Hardon and this article say the same: catholicexchange.com/forgotten-mortal-sins

This link says no: ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=314942

So yes, I would be inclined to assume it’s more common to think there **is **an obligation to confess forgotten mortal sins from previous Confessions.

 

[sloth]

that jim akin article is pretty amazing.

jimmyakin.com/2006/09/a_reader_writes_1.html

" It’s not that your forgiveness of it is conditional on you adopting the intention to confess it next time. That sin has already been forgiven. It’s that you incur a new sin if you refuse to adopt the intention of confessing it."

I wonder what the sin is if you refuse to confess previously forgotten mortal sins

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

No. A mortal sin is a sin that causes us to forfeit our Sanctifying Grace.

A person in mortal sin has already done that, so he has nothing to loose. Mortal sins cannot be compounded.

It is, however, an offense to the dignity of the Body and Blood, so it should be included in your next Confession.

You are incorrect. Receiving communion while in the state of mortal sin is a sacrilege and is still a mortal sin. When people keep committing mortal sins they cause grave disorders in their soul, add to the amount of temporal punishment they need to make reparation for, etc.

If a person is in mortal sin they need to get to confession asap and not go to communion until they’ve been absolved. If one can’t receive communion for whatever reason, one should remain in one’s pew and make a spiritual communion and/or ask God to help you get back into the state of grace.

 

[sloth]

Thank you for all that have answered. May God bless you all

it appears that refusing to confess mortal sins remembered after to confession would also the mortal sin of sacrilege.

The sin of sacrilege is a grave sin that consists of profaning or treating unworthily the sacraments and liturgical actions of the Church as well as things consecrated to God (CCC 2120).

 

[billcu1]

No. A mortal sin is a sin that causes us to forfeit our Sanctifying Grace.

A person in mortal sin has already done that, so he has nothing to loose. Mortal sins cannot be compounded.

It is, however, an offense to the dignity of the Body and Blood, so it should be included in your next Confession.

I think the bible says about this instead of eating life you partake only of death. Or something like that.

Bill

 

[Windmill]

Realize, too, that there is a difference between grave sin and mortal sin. The gravity of a sin is objective, while the mortality of a sin depends on knowledge and action of the will. One could go into one’s childhood or ignorant years and develop scruples over the possible sins of the past. If you fully knew an action was a grave sin and fully willed to commit it, and you know you have not confessed it…then bring it to confession.

Years ago, I made an appointment with my pastor to make a General Confession of all my past sins. I took plenty of time to prepare for this, and I prayed a lot during the preparation. It only took 10 minutes in Fr.'s office, but it was one of the most treasured 10 minutes of my life. My priest, God bless him, was very patient, gave me great advice, and affirmed me in my striving for virtue. The peace of mind it gave me was priceless, and I recommend this to many who have nagging doubts.

 

[Vico]

I think the bible says about this instead of eating life you partake only of death. Or something like that.

Bill

1 Cor. 11

27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. 30 Therefore are there many inform and weak among you, and many sleep. 31 But if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But whilst we are judged, we are chastised by the Lord, that we be not condemned with this world.

 

[billcu1]

1 Cor. 11

27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. 30 Therefore are there many inform and weak among you, and many sleep. 31 But if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But whilst we are judged, we are chastised by the Lord, that we be not condemned with this world.

Does that mean pretty much the same thing?

Bill

 

[omgriley]

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Years ago, I made an appointment with my pastor to make a General Confession of all my past sins. I took plenty of time to prepare for this, and I prayed a lot during the preparation. It only took 10 minutes in Fr.'s office, but it was one of the most treasured 10 minutes of my life. My priest, God bless him, was very patient, gave me great advice, and affirmed me in my striving for virtue. The peace of mind it gave me was priceless, and I recommend this to many who have nagging doubts.

That is an amazing idea! Would you please care to elaborate on how you prepared for this, as well as maybe further define your “General Confessipn” ? While redacting your actual confessions, of course.

 

[Brendan_64]

what is one supposed to do if we aren’t supposed to receive communion with a mortal sin on our soul? do we just get a blessing from the Eucharistic Minister?

Just remain in your pew.

It is not obligatory to receive Communion at Mass, and blessings are just a form of non-prescribed compromise to deal with people who present themselves to the priest, but not for Communion. In the context of the Mass and what has just taken place, blessings are a bit pointless.

If you are in a state of mortal sin, or even if you think there is a chance you might be, then DO NOT receive Communion. To do so would be to be guilty of the sin of sacrilege and is in itself a mortal sin. Stay in your pew and go to Confession urgently.

There does seem to be some sort of misconception amongst Catholics that we must go to Communion every time we go to Mass (even regardless of the state of our souls). I think this attitude debases the Eucharist and reduces receiving Communion to an automatic action when attending mass, even almost to an entitlement.

We should think carefully about whether or not we ought to receive Communion, each time and not just think of it as an automatic thing we do when we go to Mass. It is God Himself we are receiving, Christ’s body truly present as the Eucharist. If we are in any doubt, not just about whether or not we are in a state of mortal sin, but whether or not we are properly disposed spiritually, then we should not receive Communion and remain in our pews.

 

[Sirach2]

It is not obligatory to receive Communion at Mass, and blessings are just a form of non-prescribed compromise to deal with people who present themselves to the priest.

Blessings are no longer permissible. Agree…

We should think carefully about whether or not we ought to receive Communion, each time and not just think of it as an automatic thing we do when we go to Mass. It is God Himself we are receiving, Christ’s body truly present as the Eucharist. If we are in any doubt, not just about whether or not we are in a state of mortal sin, but whether or not we are properly disposed spiritually, then we should not receive Communion and remain in our pews.

Proper disposition is not a reason to refrain from receiving communion. If indisposition is willful, maybe I can agree. But if it is something we endure as a result of things going on in our state of life causing distraction or other emotions, we should receive, in order to obtain strength and grace and to please Our Lord.

St. Faustina had this to say in her Diary:

156 Once, I desired very much to receive Holy Communion, but I had a certain doubt, and I did not go. Jesus suddenly stood by me and said, **"My daughter, do not omit Holy Communion unless you know well that your fall was serious; apart from this, no doubt must stop you from uniting yourself with Me in the mystery of My love. Your minor faults will disappear in My love like a piece of straw thrown into a great furnace. **
Know that you grieve Me much when you fail to receive Me in Holy Communion."