Reconciliation if baptized through another faith

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My friend is interested in the sacrament of Reconciliation and would like to receive it. She was baptized through a nondenominational church, which followed the formula (I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit) so the church would recognize her baptism. However, she’s not certain she wants to enter the Catholic Church, so would it be proper for her to receive Reconciliation without her formally entering the church? I’m thinking that once she receives the sacrament, her desire to become Catholic will be too strong to deny.

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Eric
 
Those who are baptized, despite the organization that performed it, are expected to visit Reconciliation for every mortal sin committed after baptism.
 
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enanneman:
My friend is interested in the sacrament of Reconciliation and would like to receive it. She was baptized through a nondenominational church, which followed the formula (I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit) so the church would recognize her baptism. However, she’s not certain she wants to enter the Catholic Church, so would it be proper for her to receive Reconciliation without her formally entering the church? I’m thinking that once she receives the sacrament, her desire to become Catholic will be too strong to deny.

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut! 🙂

Eric
The Sacraments are administered by the Catholic Church to members in full communion with the Catholic Church. Except in certain special circumstances she should not seek to receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Part of this is also that to know that the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ and refuse to enter into full communion is a sin. To seek Reconciliation but refuse to remedy the situation would nulify the absolution.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
The Sacraments are administered by the Catholic Church to members in full communion with the Catholic Church. Except in certain special circumstances she should not seek to receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Part of this is also that to know that the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ and refuse to enter into full communion is a sin. To seek Reconciliation but refuse to remedy the situation would nulify the absolution.
Thank you, Rich, but if she does indeed enter RCIA after receiving the sacrament, would this still be true?
 
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enanneman:
Thank you, Rich, but if she does indeed enter RCIA after receiving the sacrament, would this still be true?
Before Reconciliation she should go through the Rite of Welcome which places her within a special relationahip with the Catholic Church as a Candidate.
 
I have a question to add to this post. My parish is having a Reconciliation Mass Monday night, my 11 year old baptised Baptist son want to go with me. He is in CCD classes but still does not really like the church. Can he go to confession and explain to the priest his situation?. After all, this may be a good learning experience for him. Helping him NOT be affraid of talking to priests about personal issues.
 
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mkw:
I have a question to add to this post. My parish is having a Reconciliation Mass Monday night, my 11 year old baptised Baptist son want to go with me. He is in CCD classes but still does not really like the church. Can he go to confession and explain to the priest his situation?. After all, this may be a good learning experience for him. Helping him NOT be affraid of talking to priests about personal issues.
I’m not sure I understand the entire situation. You are Catholic or are in RCIA? Your 11 yr old son is Baptized Baptist and is in RCIA and CCD?

In order for him to approcah the Sacrament of Reconciliation he should have already been through the Rite of Welcome.
 
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95 The Directory strongly recommends that each diocesan bishop should establish norms for judging situations of grave and pressing spiritual need when Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church may be admitted to Holy Communion and to the sacraments of Reconciliation and Anointing of the Sick. These norms should take into account any which may have been established already by the Bishops’ Conference. In the absence of norms established either by the diocesan bishop or by the Bishops’ Conference, Catholic priests are to follow those of the Directory. In order to guide Catholic pastors in our countries, our Bishops’ Conferences now establish norms on this important matter. There are two sets of norms: one concerning Christians from Eastern Churches, the other concerning Christians from Churches and ecclesial communities of the West. Catholic priests are to discern each individual case only in accord with the norms established by their diocesan bishop, or, in the absence of such diocesan norms, those which the Bishops’ Conferences of England and Wales, Ireland, and Scotland promulgate in this document, each for its own territory.

96 According to the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, the doctrine that ‘common worship’ should signify the unity of the Church generally rules out sacramental sharing, but the gaining of grace may sometimes commend it

112 What might be meant by other unique occasions for joy or sorrow in the life of a family or an individual? These are situations in which there may be an objectively grave and pressing spiritual need for a person to receive Holy Communion. We give examples of such circumstances, without in any way intending to suggest categories of situations in which admission to the sacrament would be generally granted. The admission of a particular individual on one such unique occasion does not mean that another individual would necessarily be admitted in a similar situation. Requests to be admitted to Holy Communion may come from the parent of a child to be baptised during Mass, or receiving First Holy Communion or Confirmation; the parent or wife of someone being ordained;210 the intimate family of the deceased at a Funeral Mass; Christians who cannot easily approach a minister of their own community, such as those confined to an institution of some kind, although most hospitals and prisons in our countries have Anglican, Presbyterian, Church of Scotland and Free Church chaplains who minister there on a regular basis. There may be occasions when it is admission to the sacraments of Reconciliation and Anointing of the Sick which is the most grave and pressing spiritual need, due in part to the absence of such sacramental rites in some faith communities. Each situation will be judged individually according to the norms.

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113 Who is to make the decision in each case? Except when there is a danger of death, it is for the diocesan bishop or those delegated by him to judge whether there is a grave and pressing need. When an individual Christian decides, after prayer and reflection, that he or she should approach the local priest about their circumstances, the latter must also make a discernment about whether this should be brought to the local bishop or his delegate for a decision. A Catholic priest may not make such a decision himself unless duly delegated by his bishop.

114 What conditions must always be fulfilled? The Code of Canon Law lists four conditions which are re-stated in the Directory:211

• that the person be unable to approach a minister of his or her own community for the sacrament desired;

In our countries, occasions when such fellow Christians cannot physically find a minister of their own community will be rare. There may be times, however, such as in the particular circumstances or on the unique occasions exemplified above, when access to one’s own minister is impossible given the very nature of that occasion.

• that the person greatly desire to receive the sacrament, and ask to receive it of his or her own initiative;

The grave and pressing spiritual need should be something discerned by the person concerned, rather than in response to an invitation given by the Catholic priest. Priests and other Catholic ministers should issue neither general nor specific invitations to other Christians to receive Holy Communion. It is important that there be adequate time for the proper process of discernment and judgement, and for appropriate preparation for reception of the sacrament.

• that the person manifest Catholic faith in the sacrament desired; In our countries, occasions when such fellow Christians cannot physically find a minister of their own community will be rare. There may be times, however, such as in the particular circumstances or on the unique occasions exemplified above, when access to one’s own minister is impossible given the very nature of that occasion.

• that the person greatly desire to receive the sacrament, and ask to receive it of his or her own initiative;

The grave and pressing spiritual need should be something discerned by the person concerned, rather than in response to an invitation given by the Catholic priest. Priests and other Catholic ministers should issue neither general nor specific invitations to other Christians to receive Holy Communion. It is important that there be adequate time for the proper process of discernment and judgement, and for appropriate preparation for reception of the sacrament.

• that the person manifest Catholic faith in the sacrament desired;

In this document we have given an outline of the fundamental aspects of Catholic faith in the Eucharist, and to a lesser extent of Catholic faith in the sacraments of Reconciliation and Anointing of the Sick. For a Christian who does not regularly worship at a Catholic church, being a frequent communicant at his or her own church may well indicate a love for the Eucharist. Others may regularly attend a Catholic celebration of the Eucharist, with their Catholic spouse or family for example, and this may speak loudly of a commitment to the Eucharist. It does not necessarily follow, however, that their understanding of the Eucharist and its implications is in harmony with that of the Catholic faith.

• that the person be properly disposed.

The same is asked of a Christian not in full communion with the Catholic Church as is expected of a Catholic wishing to receive the sacraments. There are Catholics who are unable to receive Holy Communion because of their being, for example, in a state of serious sin or in an irregular marital situation; the same may be true of another Christian seeking admission to Holy Communion.

I’m sure the US Bishops position is broadly similar.
 
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mkw:
I have a question to add to this post. My parish is having a Reconciliation Mass Monday night, my 11 year old baptised Baptist son want to go with me. He is in CCD classes but still does not really like the church. Can he go to confession and explain to the priest his situation?. After all, this may be a good learning experience for him. Helping him NOT be affraid of talking to priests about personal issues.
Code:
While a non-Catholic cannot receive Sacramental absolution until he is ready to join the Catholic Church, most priests are willing, and happy, to hear his problems, failings, etc. give him advice and pray with him.  I
I’m not sure what your Reconciliation Mass involves. A Parish Penitential Service is probably not the time for a non-Catholic, or a Catholic with serious problems, to approach the Confessional. Things are usually rushed and the priests are not in a position at that time to give extensive counseling.
 
Joe Kelley:
While a non-Catholic cannot receive Sacramental absolution until he is ready to join the Catholic Church, most priests are willing, and happy, to hear his problems, failings, etc. give him advice and pray with him. I

I’m not sure what your Reconciliation Mass involves. A Parish Penitential Service is probably not the time for a non-Catholic, or a Catholic with serious problems, to approach the Confessional. Things are usually rushed and the priests are not in a position at that time to give extensive counseling.
That is a good idea. I’ll make sure we’re the last in line, and I’ll go into the confessional before her and explain her situation to the priest. If nothing else, he can hear her sins, offer advice and give her a blessing.

Thank you! 🙂

Eric
 
My son is 11 and NOT in RCIA… He mostly goes to Mass because I “make” him. He is active in the youth choir, mostly because he has friends also in it.

I was hoping that by going to confession, he might find out on his own that a priest is just a regular guy. I know he can’t receive absolution, but I was hoping he might learn from this experience.
 
Joe Kelley:
While a non-Catholic cannot receive Sacramental absolution until he is ready to join the Catholic Church, most priests are willing, and happy, to hear his problems, failings, etc. give him advice and pray with him. I
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113 Who is to make the decision in each case? Except when there is a danger of death, it is for the diocesan bishop or those delegated by him to judge whether there is a grave and pressing need. When an individual Christian decides, after prayer and reflection, that he or she should approach the local priest about their circumstances, the latter must also make a discernment about whether this should be brought to the local bishop or his delegate for a decision. A Catholic priest may not make such a decision himself unless duly delegated by his bishop.
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JGC said:
113 Who is to make the decision in each case? Except when there is a danger of death, it is for the diocesan bishop or those delegated by him to judge whether there is a grave and pressing need. When an individual Christian decides, after prayer and reflection, that he or she should approach the local priest about their circumstances, the latter must also make a discernment about whether this should be brought to the local bishop or his delegate for a decision. A Catholic priest may not make such a decision himself unless duly delegated by his bishop.
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I am not sure what you are saying here. It would require permission from the Bishop to give sacramental absolution. However, I think a priest is free to give spiritual counsel to anyone who requests it.
 
Joe Kelley:
I am not sure what you are saying here. It would require permission from the Bishop to give sacramental absolution. However, I think a priest is free to give spiritual counsel to anyone who requests it.
Simply that the sacrament is avaliable to other Christians ’ with a grave and pressing need’, not only ‘if you are ready to join the Catholic Church’

JGC
 
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