I already believe in the great antiquity of the human species and our kinship with all life on earth after all we are ’ of the earth’. I don’t place much weight on the genetic link since I didn’t think species are linked genetically. Has that link been established ?
That would raise some issues.
No, it’s a guess as is the mechanism of Gravity. What you are confusing is the observability and repeatability of the results of Gravity with the observability and repeatability of the results of evolution. The results of evolution are not observable or repeatable but the result of Gravity is. I notice this is a common misunderstanding among people who believe in evolution. They don’t seem to have the insight or to want to understand the mechanism of gravity or evolution which both are a mystery and theory. You need to separate the result from the mechanism.
DNA. There is no mechanism or mathimatical possibility for evolution. The biologist have not come up with a plausible mechanism, mutation does not work in the laboratory or otherwise. Randomness can not generate order. Look at the complexity of a computer program there is no way that randomness could generate a meaningful result. DNA is millions of times more complex. In order for an evolutionary model to prototypical you would have to mutate the operating system, the hardware and the algorythm at the same time. I have not seen any models that attempt this. In addition there are no evolutionary models that I am aware of the take the food supply necissary to support the population needed to produce enough mutations, death and selection to change one life form into another. It is completely an unreasonable proposition.
Again, just wild guesses. I don’t believe any of that bologna and neither will my kids. The fossil record does not exist and the only plausible mechanism for the laying down of rock layers that I have seen is simultaneously. This has been domonstrated in the laboratory. I tend to look at things from an engineering perspective and if the mechanism can’t be fully understood I don’t believe it. I have very little respect for evolutionary science. It doesn’t produce a useful product that enhances human life it just goes for more grant money, our tax dollars at work, what a waste.
Based on this statement, you no longer have any credibility in this discussion.
Right. And the Mississippi River isn’t depositing sediment in the Gulf of Mexico as you are reading this.
I guess that means you don’t believe gravity then since it isn’t fully understood.
Based upon your reaction you have little scientific credibility with me as well. I wasn’t looking for your confidence or to be credible to you, just speaking the truth. Thanks for wishing me peace. With the love of Christ I wish you uneasiness in your thought, because sometimes the paradigms we hold dear need to be shaken.
My kids have complained about my use of the language, but that is the influence of their mother. I can understand why taking the Lord’s name in vain should not be done. And God forgive me when I have heard His name misused and failed to defend it.I hope you aren’t teaching your kids to use language like you are using in this thread.
Peace
Tim
If the sun orbited around the earth, with the known distance and velocity, the earth woudln’t have enough gravity to hold the much heavier sun in orbit. It has to be the earth orbiting the sun.
If the entire universe were to revolve around the earth with the earth stationary you could concievably have equilibrium. In fact Cal Tech did a study of the forces of all obserable in space and determined that the location of the earth is an equilibrium or force zero point.
The deposit of the Mississippi River is the type of deposit I am talking about. The deposit in the delta is simultaneous layers layed down, not millions of years per layer. The same thing was observed with Mt. St. Hellen only there the laying down of layers of sediment was with air flow, but in either case fluid dynamics supports the laying down of simultaneous layers not each layer over millions of years. There is no millions of years mechanism, model or observable experiment that can be performed in a lab for the laying down of rock layers.
Peace
Tim
What about the antibiotics you will need to counteract bacteria that are evolving resistance to over-prescribed antibiotics?
Steve, you’ve never talked with a geologist or a biologist, have you? The language you use comes straight out of garden-variety tracts of talking points from creationist organizations. If you can find me a geology department that accepts your biblical-literalist of sedimentation, I will be interested.
Natural selection due to information that is already resessive within the organism is not mutation and selection. To the best of my knowlegde the presence of resessive resistence within the population of bactaria has not been ruled out as the cause for resistence to antibiotics. Since resessive information and selection is what we experimentally observe else where, I think it is reasonable to suggest that this is also what is happening with antibiotics.
You may not be able to find a whole biology or geology department, but I can definately find you biologists and geologists who are saying what I am saying and with more detail. The book that finally convinced me that I was wrong about evolution was written by a geologist. I think it was Dr. Gary Parkins but I don’t remember that was a while ago.
Steve40, I also have empirical proof – from spending time with my kids on a merry-go-round in the park – that the entire world revolves around my children and me.
Yes – it’s evolution in action! Descent with modification. If 99.9% of a bacterial population are killed by an antibiotic, the .1% that survive multiply and pass on their resistance to the next generation.
So you think biologists assume the cogency of the evolutionary theory, and geologists assume the antiquity of the earth because otherwise they wouldn’t get grant money?