Reconciling "Wokeness" & The Church

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I can’t speak for all of them - I know the local Bishops in my area, particularly Bishop Polding were trying their best. The local sisters of Mercy allowed Aboriginal children into the school they founded, until the government forced them to create a separate segregated school.
 
Definitely - its still really shocking to consider that just over 50 years ago, the Aboriginal people weren’t considered citizens, and some even seen as flora and fauna.
 
In other words, you don’t want a genuine discussion, you want an echo chamber where people will confirm you and be “more empathetic”. Typical wokeness.
 
Have some of the Aboriginal peoples been able to be truly converted and keep their faith despite it all?
 
No. I would like a discussion that embodies the Spirit of 1 Cor 13 rather than cable news.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
 
on_the_hill said:
I don’t like the word “woke” because it is to grammar what fingernails are to a chalkboard. Also, I presume it comes from Black American slang, and while it’s indisputable that a tremendous number of standard American slang comes from different aspects of AA culture, this particular one seems too close to what could legitimately be claimed as “cultural appropriation.”

I can’t believe I’m about to type this, but: people who aren’t “people of color” can’t really be ‘woke’ to what people of color face. My daughter had a close friend who is from the Dominican Republic. He faces subtle and sometimes not-so-subtle discrimination regularly in the way people interact with him. It upsets him, he doesn’t fight back against it (because he can’t, really) and he expects it.
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As a white single, divorced female of 66 years of age, I have definitely had times where I have felt “woke”.
Even Thelma and Louise had their moment of being “woke”.
You don’t have to be African American to
feel “woke”.
 
DeoVindice1863 said:
In other words, you don’t want a genuine discussion, you want an echo chamber where people will confirm you and be “more empathetic”. Typical wokeness.
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Frankly, ‘woke’ people reek of virtue signaling to me.

You are woke if you follow Christ and love your neighbor as yourself,
without lamenting others don’t appreciate your empathy for your neighbor.
 
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Mr_Kooper_513 said:
In this sense I mean that a person is aware of racial matters and what people of color experience in the world…
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That seems pretty presumptive. I don’t know what anyone else experiences. I can’t get inside anyone else’s head. Also, this seems like the same old grouping of people that is supposed to be condemned. Do the particular experiences of one or a group of people of color represent the experiences of all of them? In other words, if one person of color says he experiences something that means they all do?
 
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See my post about #100, I did discuss your original question.
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Why do you judge the past on present norms? Do you hold the actions of a 5 yr old, or a teen up to adult standards? Geopolitics has evolved considerably in the past couple millenia.
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Aren’t there better terms than “woke”?

Words like informed, enlightened, or having an epiphany.

“Woke” is more like urban slang, here today and gone tomorrow.
 
FloridaCatholic said:
Woke doesn’t necessarily refer to being a Marxist.

It usually means being conscious of things that people of color, minorities, and women go through and recognizing that there are trends due to particular circumstances—not necessarily marxism
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Why are you including everyone except straight white males? Read white civil rights or mens civil rights web forums and you’ll find the same language about being woked and red pilled. I suppose people who post on those sites were sick and tired of being the only group In our society who could not claim victim status. It pays to be a victim.
 
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Zach said:
Read white civil rights or mens civil rights web forums and you’ll find the same language about being woked and red pilled
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I’m really not interested in propaganda.

Also, I never said I was “woke” or that I agreed with what “woke” people stand for. I just made the post to clarify that woke people aren’t Marxist per se.
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I suppose people who post on those sites were sick and tired of being the only group In our society who could not claim victim status. It pays to be a victim.
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I think there’s a problem with viewing yourself as a victim. If white men want to whine like the rest, let them, but it does no good.
 
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If you are equating being woke with whining I agree. There’s a lot of ungrateful whiners who have it better today than 99.999 percent of people in the history of the world, yet they still aren’t satisfied.
 
But if you’re talking about redpill-ers, I consider them as ridiculous as people being “woke.” White men have it pretty cushy and have it better today that 99.999% of people in the history of the world, yet they still aren’t satisfied.
 
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