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I have had thoughts about recreational marijuana. Currently both Church and state allows recreational tobacco smoking and drinking but why not marijuana? Many studies have shown that marijuana is less toxic than tobacco. Compared with alcohol it is also less detrimental, its hallucinogenic effect rarely leads to violent outbursts like alcohol. According to new studies marijuana may also helps the lung and increase appetite. Like alcohol marijuana tolerance can increase with time. Finally statistics show a large number of people have died from alcohol consumption and tobacco use, but not many died from marijuana use or marijuana related accidents.

So my question is why isn’t marijuana allowed? What are the spiritual and social concerns that may impede its usage.
 
A major difference in our two candidates for congress is that one supports the legalization
of marijuana. Some of the information about it may give you pause.

First of all, it is against the law.

A doctor came out with studies showing that it is addictive, and a “gateway” drug. The
potency of marijuana is generally stronger than it was in the past. It is not possible to
know this by the user.
A story from a woman who wrote in our “Letters to the Editor” wrote that she worked in the
Los Angeles police department in the 70’s. At that time when an arrest was made, a card
was made listing the arrest charge. Another arrest for the individual was followed by a
new card stapled to the first. When she went through the ones that had several cards, the
bottom card usually had some type of marijuana use. The newer ones eventually went to
cocaine, or heroin.

Ask yourself why you need this experience. Is there something legal that will fill this
need?
 
TexCatholic4JMJ said:
A major difference in our two candidates for congress is that one supports the legalization
of marijuana. Some of the information about it may give you pause.

First of all, it is against the law.

A doctor came out with studies showing that it is addictive, and a “gateway” drug. The
potency of marijuana is generally stronger than it was in the past. It is not possible to
know this by the user.
A story from a woman who wrote in our “Letters to the Editor” wrote that she worked in the
Los Angeles police department in the 70’s. At that time when an arrest was made, a card
was made listing the arrest charge. Another arrest for the individual was followed by a
new card stapled to the first. When she went through the ones that had several cards, the
bottom card usually had some type of marijuana use. The newer ones eventually went to
cocaine, or heroin.

Ask yourself why you need this experience. Is there something legal that will fill this
need?
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The question is legality. Why is alcohol and tobacco legal and not marijuana where marijuana is less toxic than both and its hallucinogenic effects aren’t violent proning as alcohol
 
UnityofTrinity said:
The question is legality. Why is alcohol and tobacco legal and not marijuana where marijuana is less toxic than both and its hallucinogenic effects aren’t violent proning as alcohol
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Because banning marijuana is good for our country and no one has ever successfully defended a “right” to marijuana.
 
at what age would someone be allowed to buy it.the people now selling it,if it is legal who would they be be selling it to then ?🍿:whistle::ehh::doh2:
 
UnityofTrinity said:
I have had thoughts about recreational marijuana. Currently both Church and state allows recreational tobacco smoking and drinking but why not marijuana? Many studies have shown that marijuana is less toxic than tobacco. Compared with alcohol it is also less detrimental, its hallucinogenic effect rarely leads to violent outbursts like alcohol. According to new studies marijuana may also helps the lung and increase appetite. Like alcohol marijuana tolerance can increase with time. Finally statistics show a large number of people have died from alcohol consumption and tobacco use, but not many died from marijuana use or marijuana related accidents.

So my question is why isn’t marijuana allowed? What are the spiritual and social concerns that may impede its usage.
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Well how about the fact that marijuana caused this man to chew another man’s face off. Never heard Tobacco do that.

or how about the Dad who was drunk and high and put his baby in the oven overnight.

or the incident where a man put his penis in a camping stove.

Weed makes you do crazy, insane and stupid stuff.
 
As it was explained to me by my priest, it is against the law. Hard to say that something which is against the law is okay to do even if it is recreational. 😉
 
austenbosten said:
Well how about the fact that marijuana caused this man to chew another man’s face off. Never heard Tobacco do that.

or how about the Dad who was drunk and high and put his baby in the oven overnight.

or the incident where a man put his penis in a camping stove.

Weed makes you do crazy, insane and stupid stuff.
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The guy who chewed the other guy face off was on bath salt

The dad was drunk, being high alone wouldn’t effect someone like that.

So far we say no one should be near weed because it is illegal, but what about places where it is legal? What then?
 
UnityofTrinity said:
The question is legality. Why is alcohol and tobacco legal and not marijuana where marijuana is less toxic than both and its hallucinogenic effects aren’t violent proning as alcohol
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Keep an eye on the way things are changing.

Soon you will see where smoking is banned completely, and made illegal. It may take a few more years, but it is coming to that.

Once all the tax revenue from tobacco sales stops, where do you think they are going to make up for it? Alcohol. If marijuana is legalized, it will go through the same process. Tax it to death, then ban it.

Back in the day, and still to this day, the 3 things that are taxed the most, and are the first taxes increased are: Alcohol, Tobacco, and fuel. The majority of the price paid for fuel in the US is taxes.

Follow the money trail.
 
Here we go again…

It’s funny to me how often this subject comes up on these forums. I’m not saying it’s an inappropriate topic or should be banned by any means. I just think it’s funny how it comes up almost periodically and the arguments are always the same. Exactly the same.

Carry on.
 
Where I live in Canada, it is technically illegal, but mere use is not a criminal offense. In fact, police largely turn a blind eye. It is not uncommon for me to smell it while strolling down the street or at the beach or in a park…no one even attempts to hide it. I’ve never tried it myself and have no desire to…but I think that outside of the United States, there isn’t the same powerful stigma that seems to exist around it in that country. I have mixed feelings. I agree with the OP that it appears to be less or equally as harmful as tobacco or alcohol…but at present, until it is legalized (and I have no doubt that this will eventually happen here), the criminal element behind its distribution can’t be morally supported.
 
Big_Ro said:
Here we go again…

It’s funny to me how often this subject comes up on these forums. I’m not saying it’s an inappropriate topic or should be banned by any means. I just think it’s funny how it comes up almost periodically and the arguments are always the same. Exactly the same.

Carry on.
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And in this particular version, isn’t really appropriate for the moral theology forum.
 
There are some things that the Church does not decide one way or the other, but leaves the decision up to the prudential judgement of the faithful. This question is one of them. Now some aspects of this question the Church does have a clear teaching. So in places where use is illegal, since the law itself does not violate any Church teaching, we are obliged to follow that law. Also use to excess is against Church teaching. And what is excess is left up to prudential judgement. I personally think that recreational pot use is bad for one’s body and soul. But that is my opinion and I would not go so far as to claim that such a position is mandated by Church teaching.
 
TexCatholic4JMJ said:
A major difference in our two candidates for congress is that one supports the legalization
of marijuana. Some of the information about it may give you pause.

First of all, it is against the law.

A doctor came out with studies showing that it is addictive, and a “gateway” drug. The
potency of marijuana is generally stronger than it was in the past. It is not possible to
know this by the user.
A story from a woman who wrote in our “Letters to the Editor” wrote that she worked in the
Los Angeles police department in the 70’s. At that time when an arrest was made, a card
was made listing the arrest charge. Another arrest for the individual was followed by a
new card stapled to the first. When she went through the ones that had several cards, the
bottom card usually had some type of marijuana use. The newer ones eventually went to
cocaine, or heroin.

Ask yourself why you need this experience. Is there something legal that will fill this
need?
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I have to ask: is it a gateway drug because of its illegality? Correlation doesn’t prove causation, those that sell cannabis likely either sell harder drugs or are around people that do.
 
Skeptic92 said:
I have to ask: is it a gateway drug because of its illegality? Correlation doesn’t prove causation, those that sell cannabis likely either sell harder drugs or are around people that do.
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That would be my guess, since it sucks you into the drug culture. Several marijuana users I met, simply smoked marijuana and nothing else. Others went into the drug culture and started using LSD, Cocaine, Ketamine, Heroin and so forth.

However with marijuana I think the obsession to get “high” drives people to harder drugs to get a bigger “high”. I don’t know of anyone who went to black tar heroin from cigarettes or booze cause they wanted a “bigger high”
 
austenbosten said:
That would be my guess, since it sucks you into the drug culture. Several marijuana users I met, simply smoked marijuana and nothing else. Others went into the drug culture and started using LSD, Cocaine, Ketamine, Heroin and so forth.

However with marijuana I think the obsession to get “high” drives people to harder drugs to get a bigger “high”. I don’t know of anyone who went to black tar heroin from cigarettes or booze cause they wanted a “bigger high”
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I know a couple that went from alcohol straight to Ecstasy due to the ‘party/rave culture’, I think it is a gateway drug simply because of the culture that you can become involved in.
 
Just because it’s ‘less harmful’ than alcohol doesn’t mean it’s any less addictive. I have a close family member who smokes marijuana frequently and I swear, he can’t go a week without it.

Why would the state promote future addictions when it tries so hard to diminish them? That’s the only real reason why I think it’s still illegal.
 
missmorgan389 said:
Just because it’s ‘less harmful’ than alcohol doesn’t mean it’s any less addictive. I have a close family member who smokes marijuana frequently and I swear, he can’t go a week without it.

Why would the state promote future addictions when it tries so hard to diminish them? That’s the only real reason why I think it’s still illegal.
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I look it this way. You wanna smoke? you have three choices:

cigarettes, cigars and pipes…take your pick 😉
 
It is a matter of faith that we must obey the civilian governments unless they require us to do something which is contrary to our faith.

Therefore moderate use of Marijuana is a sin against the commandment to Honour your Father and Mother (as our government has a paternal responsibiltiy) and to Obey God (as government has Divine Sanction except where they try to contradict His Laws)

Imoderate use of Marijuana is a sin against the virtue of temperance as well.
 
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