Recreational marijuana

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A major difference in our two candidates for congress is that one supports the legalization
of marijuana. Some of the information about it may give you pause.

First of all, it is against the law.

A doctor came out with studies showing that it is addictive, and a “gateway” drug. The
potency of marijuana is generally stronger than it was in the past. It is not possible to
know this by the user.
A story from a woman who wrote in our “Letters to the Editor” wrote that she worked in the
Los Angeles police department in the 70’s. At that time when an arrest was made, a card
was made listing the arrest charge. Another arrest for the individual was followed by a
new card stapled to the first. When she went through the ones that had several cards, the
bottom card usually had some type of marijuana use. The newer ones eventually went to
cocaine, or heroin.

Ask yourself why you need this experience. Is there something legal that will fill this
need?
The overwhelming gateway drug is alcohol. Many will say that alcohol is not a drug, but it is, the active drug being ethonol. Now the issue of legality is an issue. But the majority of people that I knew as a teen got alcohol from their parents liquor cabinet way before they ever tried marijuana.
 
Just because it’s ‘less harmful’ than alcohol doesn’t mean it’s any less addictive. I have a close family member who smokes marijuana frequently and I swear, he can’t go a week without it.

Why would the state promote future addictions when it tries so hard to diminish them? That’s the only real reason why I think it’s still illegal.
Hate to tell you, but the over whelming opinion in the Scientific community is that Cannabis is not physically addictive: Like Heroin, Cocaine, Tobacco and Cocaine. While some psychological dependency might arise, they believe they want it, but will not suffer true withdrawal and can quit with very little physical effort.

The link to Mental Illnesses has also been questioned as again: Correlation doesn’t prove causation, many of those that developed Mental Illnesses after smoking cannabis had a history of Mental Illness in the family.

I shall find you what I read recently which was a study by the former drugs advisor to the UK Parliament. He was fired because he told them there Drug Laws made no medical or scientific sense.
 
*The new study begins to address that question by comparing marijuana smoke vs. tobacco smoke in terms of toxicity to cells and to DNA. Scientists exposed cultured animal cells and bacteria to condensed smoke samples from both marijuana and tobacco. There were distinct differences in the degree and type of toxicity elicited by marijuana and cigarette smoke.
Marijuana smoke caused significantly more damage to cells and DNA than tobacco smoke, the researchers note. However, tobacco smoke caused chromosome damage while marijuana did not.
*Full article at Science Daily.

Neither substance, marijuana or cigarettes are very good for you. The University of Maryland has a marijuana information page here.

See also Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction – As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
 
Hate to tell you, but the over whelming opinion in the Scientific community is that Cannabis is not physically addictive: Like Heroin, Cocaine, Tobacco and Cocaine. While some psychological dependency might arise, they believe they want it, but will not suffer true withdrawal and can quit with very little physical effort.
But she wasn’t comparing it to heroin; she was comparing it to alcohol. Alcohol is not **physically **addictive either but it is still possible to be addicted to alcohol. Even tobacco doesn’t fit the usual definition for physical addiction. Sudden cesation of tobacco use does not cause harmful physical withdrawl symtoms.

All of these, including marijuana, are addicitive primarily because the stimulate or depress certain centers in the brain - whether for pleasure, alertness, relaxation, etc.
 
*The new study begins to address that question by comparing marijuana smoke vs. tobacco smoke in terms of toxicity to cells and to DNA. Scientists exposed cultured animal cells and bacteria to condensed smoke samples from both marijuana and tobacco. There were distinct differences in the degree and type of toxicity elicited by marijuana and cigarette smoke.
Marijuana smoke caused significantly more damage to cells and DNA than tobacco smoke, the researchers note. However, tobacco smoke caused chromosome damage while marijuana did not.
*Full article at Science Daily.

Neither substance, marijuana or cigarettes are very good for you. The University of Maryland has a marijuana information page here.

See also Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction – As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
beckleyfoundation.org/pdf/BF_Cannabis_Commission_Report.pdf

Contradiction: from page 177 onwards

We now have the problem of finding out whose funding who- where does the bias and misinformation lie…
But she wasn’t comparing it to heroin; she was comparing it to alcohol. Alcohol is not **physically **addictive either but it is still possible to be addicted to alcohol. Even tobacco doesn’t fit the usual definition for physical addiction. Sudden cesation of tobacco use does not cause harmful physical withdrawl symtoms.

All of these, including marijuana, are addicitive primarily because the stimulate or depress certain centers in the brain - whether for pleasure, alertness, relaxation, etc.
Tobacco is physically addictive, I tried to quit not long ago and went through horrible withdrawal from the Nicotine. Alcohol is also physically addictive, ever seen a True Alcoholic in rehab? They look close to recovering Heroin Addicts: completely pale, shakes etcetera.

How we define addiction is what you have the trouble with here: Can they function without the substance? If yes they are not physically addicted (i.e cannabis dependency they want it but don’t need it), if no they are physically addicted (alcoholics and nicotine waking up in the morning is killer without a Cigarette) there is a huge difference between the two.
 
Tobacco is physically addictive, I tried to quit not long ago and went through horrible withdrawal from the Nicotine. Alcohol is also physically addictive, ever seen a True Alcoholic in rehab? They look close to recovering Heroin Addicts: completely pale, shakes etcetera.

How we define addiction is what you have the trouble with here: Can they function without the substance? If yes they are not physically addicted (i.e cannabis dependency they want it but don’t need it), if no they are physically addicted (alcoholics and nicotine waking up in the morning is killer without a Cigarette) there is a huge difference between the two.
I don’t have a “problem”, I am just defining physical addiction more narrowly.

What you are describing is dependency, not physical addiction. Heroine is physically addictive. If you cut it off, you can die. Tobacco dependency and alcohol addiction have nasty side effects when cut off but they aren’t because the body needs the drug, it’s because the body has become habituated to the drug.

Heroine achieves this result fairly quickly in the body as well. It’s almost impossible to regularly use heroine without becoming physically addicted. With tobacco and alcohol, what you describe are extreme reactions and due to long term, high-volume abuse. Many alcohol and tobacco users quit and have no particular side effects other than the psychological.
 
A major difference in our two candidates for congress is that one supports the legalization
of marijuana. Some of the information about it may give you pause.

First of all, it is against the law.

A doctor came out with studies showing that it is addictive, and a “gateway” drug. The
potency of marijuana is generally stronger than it was in the past. It is not possible to
know this by the user.
A story from a woman who wrote in our “Letters to the Editor” wrote that she worked in the
Los Angeles police department in the 70’s. At that time when an arrest was made, a card
was made listing the arrest charge. Another arrest for the individual was followed by a
new card stapled to the first. When she went through the ones that had several cards, the
bottom card usually had some type of marijuana use. The newer ones eventually went to
cocaine, or heroin.

Ask yourself why you need this experience. Is there something legal that will fill this
need?
I am sorry but this argument is horrible. Cigarettes kill millions of people every year and alcohol kill thousands (many of them being innocent victims being hit by drunk drivers) and cannibus is linked to very few or zero deaths. Cannibus is safer for yourself and others than alcohol or cigarettes and you would have to completely disregard all scientific evidence to dispute this. And marijuana being a gateway drug has a lot to do with it being illegal like those other drugs.
 
Well how about the fact that marijuana caused this man to chew another man’s face off. Never heard Tobacco do that.

or how about the Dad who was drunk and high and put his baby in the oven overnight.

or the incident where a man put his penis in a camping stove.

Weed makes you do crazy, insane and stupid stuff.
LOL @ saying that marijuana caused that guy to chew another man’s face. Also that man who put a baby in the oven was also drunk according to the title of the article, so why blame marijuana? Why don’t you search “drunk driving fatality” on google and see how many hits you get and then google “marijuana death” or something to that effect and see which one seems like it is more harmful.
 
Actually the autopsy report came back negative for bath salt and positive for marijuana.
Obama admitted to smoking marijuana. He must have just not been caught chewing on people’s faces. Or maybe…just MAYBE the guy that ate the other guy’s face was seriously insane and his actions had absolutely nothing to do with marijuana.
 
Just because it’s ‘less harmful’ than alcohol doesn’t mean it’s any less addictive. I have a close family member who smokes marijuana frequently and I swear, he can’t go a week without it.

Why would the state promote future addictions when it tries so hard to diminish them? That’s the only real reason why I think it’s still illegal.
You can die from alcohol withdrawals. Marijuana has extremely mild withdrawals, if any at all. Just because you know someone that may or may not be addicted to marijuana doesn’t mean that it is as addictive as drinking. I doubt that you will find any expert in the field that will agree with you.

And smoking once a week is far from addiction. Maybe your friend just likes smoking marijuana.
 
*The new study begins to address that question by comparing marijuana smoke vs. tobacco smoke in terms of toxicity to cells and to DNA. Scientists exposed cultured animal cells and bacteria to condensed smoke samples from both marijuana and tobacco. There were distinct differences in the degree and type of toxicity elicited by marijuana and cigarette smoke.
Marijuana smoke caused significantly more damage to cells and DNA than tobacco smoke, the researchers note. However, tobacco smoke caused chromosome damage while marijuana did not.
*Full article at Science Daily.

Neither substance, marijuana or cigarettes are very good for you. The University of Maryland has a marijuana information page here.

See also Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction – As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
If marijuana was so bad for you why aren’t the old hippies from the 60’s dieing of lung cancer like life long cigarette smokers?
 
But she wasn’t comparing it to heroin; she was comparing it to alcohol. Alcohol is not **physically **addictive either but it is still possible to be addicted to alcohol. Even tobacco doesn’t fit the usual definition for physical addiction. Sudden cesation of tobacco use does not cause harmful physical withdrawl symtoms.

All of these, including marijuana, are addicitive primarily because the stimulate or depress certain centers in the brain - whether for pleasure, alertness, relaxation, etc.
Alcohol is not physically addictive? Alcohol is one of the two drugs known to man that can kill you from withdrawal (the other being benzos). You are EXTREMELY misinformed.
 
I don’t have a “problem”, I am just defining physical addiction more narrowly.

What you are describing is dependency, not physical addiction. Heroine is physically addictive. If you cut it off, you can die. Tobacco dependency and alcohol addiction have nasty side effects when cut off but they aren’t because the body needs the drug, it’s because the body has become habituated to the drug.

Heroine achieves this result fairly quickly in the body as well. It’s almost impossible to regularly use heroine without becoming physically addicted. With tobacco and alcohol, what you describe are extreme reactions and due to long term, high-volume abuse. Many alcohol and tobacco users quit and have no particular side effects other than the psychological.
You can’t die from heroine withdrawal. You can die from alcohol withdrawal.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

Sorry, you are extremely misinformed. Please do some research.
 
I have had thoughts about recreational marijuana. Currently both Church and state allows recreational tobacco smoking and drinking but why not marijuana? Many studies have shown that marijuana is less toxic than tobacco. Compared with alcohol it is also less detrimental, its hallucinogenic effect rarely leads to violent outbursts like alcohol. According to new studies marijuana may also helps the lung and increase appetite. Like alcohol marijuana tolerance can increase with time. Finally statistics show a large number of people have died from alcohol consumption and tobacco use, but not many died from marijuana use or marijuana related accidents.

So my question is why isn’t marijuana allowed? What are the spiritual and social concerns that may impede its usage.
justthinktwice.com/drugs/marijuana.html

justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html

Peace,
Ed
 
Funerals I have attended, so it’s first hand knowledge.
Are you sure the any deaths from lung Cancer were directly attributed to Cannabis and not other factors? You would be educating the many Medical Researchers that have stated that there is little to no proof that Cannabis is Carcinogenic.

First Hand Knowledge is not adequate when talking about Medical Science- You need the research to back up your opinion.
 
i wish they would legalize pot,so potheads wouldn’t have anything to talk about !:yup:
 
A person can become addicted to almost anything. Sex, caffeine, sugar heck I saw a show where a woman was addicted to eating the stuffing out of her pillows! You cannot overdose on marijuana, as you can on alcohol, and as far as I know there has never been a case of someone dying of marijuana related disease as happens all the time with tobacco. I do concede that it is illegal. But abortion is legal and we know that is wrong. I am not advocating smoking marijuana, I am just trying to give the alcohol and tobacco defenders something to think about.
 
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