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Timidity
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My parish uses a Pink Delaware.
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Crusader
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I know at one parish I used to attend, one of the parishioners used to quietly substitute (with the pastor’s OK) a couple of bottles of chilled fine white wine for the horrid room temperature (not cellar temperature) box wine we normally used.
He did this at Easter and Christmas. It was a quiet and elegant way to underscore the special days…
He did this at Easter and Christmas. It was a quiet and elegant way to underscore the special days…
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thann
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Red at my parish, rose at my son’s school Masses.
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Joe_Kelley
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I do hope that they were approved sacramental wines. Many commercial wines are invalid material, and produce an invalid mass, due to added materials.
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Crusader
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Joe Kelley:
They simply need to be natural wines with no additives, including added sulfates. They also cannot be fortified wines such as a port wine.
They need not be “approved sacramental wines.” Wines do not need to be formally approved for use.
They simply need to be natural wines with no additives, including added sulfates. They also cannot be fortified wines such as a port wine.
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Joe Kelley:
BTW, I would guess 50-75% of all parishes use dirt cheap commerical box wine with no special certification for communion. A favorite around here is “two buck chuck” from Trader Joe’s when people want to spend a touch more…
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puzzleannie
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check out this forum for all the real liturgical abuses, starting with the liturgical dance thread, then quit obsessing about irrelevancies.
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ridesawhitehors
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Actually, ours is kinda pink.
But I am a Merlot drinker, so every other wine looks pale to me.
But I am a Merlot drinker, so every other wine looks pale to me.
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Strider
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Our whole archdiscese uses white except for Christmas and Easter. I guess they want to impress the C & E “Catholics.”
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serenity
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I have a question. Does it HAVE to be wine? Could it ever be grape juice? The reason I ask is because I once attended a mass where the priest was a former alcoholic and to be the blood didn’t taste like wine at all. I know that an recovered alcoholic could not ever had a sip of alcohol.
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Crusader
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Yes, a priest can request an indult to use natural grape juice or mustem. The juice must be natural – once fermintation begins (it will technically be wine with a tiny % of alcohol) it can be arrested only by freezing the juice – no homoginizing it ala Welches.
When a priest requests such an indult, he is then typically barred from concelebrating Masses.
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Toni
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Daily Mass always white for the priests I work for, red on Sunday at the parish.
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serenity
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Thanks Crusader. But what is a concelebrating mass?
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Crusader
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Where one priest (or bishop) is the principal or main celebrant, and the other priest(s) or bishop(s) are co-celebrants of the same Mass.
The ability to concelebrate (and the priest shortage of course) is the reason why few priests celebrate private daily Masses any longer…
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Fr.JLT
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Hey, All! I’m new here. ANd just wrote a long reply. But when I hit submit, it said I didn’t exist. GRRRR! And I lost my reply. Anyway, A couple points I made: I believe Indults to use Mustum at Mass are no longer granted, and haven’t been for a while now. I believe those who were indulted prior to that ruling are grandfathered. Every pun intended. 
The use of Nitrates is permissible in Sacramental wines.
Gosh, I wrote a lot mroe, too, that I think you might find interesting, but lost it all. When I clicked BACK to get my message to copy and paste, it only said, “Page Expired.” GRR!
WEll, I should be in bed anyway, but I had a tall glass of iced tea earlier, follishly not reading to see if it was decaff or not. It wasn’t. I think I’ll paint the hallways and shampoo the carpets or something. GRRRR!
God Bless!!
– Fr. L.
The use of Nitrates is permissible in Sacramental wines.
Gosh, I wrote a lot mroe, too, that I think you might find interesting, but lost it all. When I clicked BACK to get my message to copy and paste, it only said, “Page Expired.” GRR!
WEll, I should be in bed anyway, but I had a tall glass of iced tea earlier, follishly not reading to see if it was decaff or not. It wasn’t. I think I’ll paint the hallways and shampoo the carpets or something. GRRRR!
God Bless!!
– Fr. L.
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Crusader
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Fr. JLT:
Naturally occuring nitrates (all wines have them) are permissable, but nitrates cannot be artifically added to the wine.Hey, All! I’m new here. ANd just wrote a long reply. But when I hit submit, it said I didn’t exist. GRRRR! And I lost my reply. Anyway, A couple points I made: I believe Indults to use Mustum at Mass are no longer granted, and haven’t been for a while now. I believe those who were indulted prior to that ruling are grandfathered. Every pun intended.
The use of Nitrates is permissible in Sacramental wines.
Gosh, I wrote a lot mroe, too, that I think you might find interesting, but lost it all. When I clicked BACK to get my message to copy and paste, it only said, “Page Expired.” GRR!
WEll, I should be in bed anyway, but I had a tall glass of iced tea earlier, follishly not reading to see if it was decaff or not. It wasn’t. I think I’ll paint the hallways and shampoo the carpets or something. GRRRR!
God Bless!!
– Fr. L.
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Fr.JLT
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The documentation I received when I inquired several years ago, since I was making my own wine, said clearly that nitrates can be introduced as a preservative. This came from . . . I dont’ recall which office, but there it was.
– Fr. L.
– Fr. L.
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Joe_Kelley
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Fr. JLT:
It is best to prepare long posts off-line, or at least copy and paste them to an off-line sheet. This also gives you a spell check. You can then copy the corrected text to the response form, retaining a copy in case it gets lost in cyber space. **
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Fr. JLT:
The “mustum indult” is still in effect and no, one cannot use wine that has had nitrates added to it…
What “documentation?”
The “mustum indult” is still in effect and no, one cannot use wine that has had nitrates added to it…
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tanveer
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