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chefmomster2
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In another thread, a post was written concerning redemption and resurrection. I have created this thread to continue the discussion where it won’t distract from the original thread. 
Redemption without resurrection would be meaningless. What need have we of forgiveness from our sin if there was no eternal life. That would make death final and judgment non-existent.
Neither would the resurrection be meaningful without redemption. God would not provide eternal life while leaving us in an irrevocable condition of sin. We believe that salvation is only possible in the state of sanctifying grace. Without Christ’s death on the cross, we could not attain eternal life.
I don’t see these as you described. I see the death and resurrection of Christ as two elements of our redemption.
“The Paschal mystery has two aspects; by his death, Christ liberates us from sin; by his resurrection, he opens for us the way to a new life. This new life is above all justification that reinstates us in God’s grace, ‘so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.’ Justification consists in both victory over the death caused by sin and a new participation in grace.” (Rom 6:4; cf. 4:25; CCC 654)
What am I missing? I could revise my other post to say: "But, like us, they were also redeemed by Christ’s death and resurrection. (Adding the phrase “death and”) Would this satisfy your objection?
Any others have an opinion?
I understand the connection of sin to the crucifixion and death of Christ and the resurrection as related to eternal life. But, I don’t understand that you seem to imply that they are separate acts. Redemption is incomplete when considered in this way.All good and well, BUT we were NOT redeemed by his Resurrection, but by his death on the Cross. After his death he descended into the abode of death to release the prisoners there. The ones who were awaiting Redemption. Resurrection is the defeat of death, not of sin, which is sin’s consequence. God bless!
Redemption without resurrection would be meaningless. What need have we of forgiveness from our sin if there was no eternal life. That would make death final and judgment non-existent.
Neither would the resurrection be meaningful without redemption. God would not provide eternal life while leaving us in an irrevocable condition of sin. We believe that salvation is only possible in the state of sanctifying grace. Without Christ’s death on the cross, we could not attain eternal life.
I don’t see these as you described. I see the death and resurrection of Christ as two elements of our redemption.
“The Paschal mystery has two aspects; by his death, Christ liberates us from sin; by his resurrection, he opens for us the way to a new life. This new life is above all justification that reinstates us in God’s grace, ‘so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.’ Justification consists in both victory over the death caused by sin and a new participation in grace.” (Rom 6:4; cf. 4:25; CCC 654)
What am I missing? I could revise my other post to say: "But, like us, they were also redeemed by Christ’s death and resurrection. (Adding the phrase “death and”) Would this satisfy your objection?
Any others have an opinion?