Reform Catholic Campaign for Human Development

[foolishmortal]

You make them because they’re the natural outcome of natural sexual reproduction and because we are told to multiply. Also they are brought in by God’s Will to be able to see God, once baptized. If they die, that’s not such a bad thing, ultimately, if they’re prepared for death. We forget this stuff feeling all secure and wealthy.
Secondarily, they can help you when you’re down if you raise them right.

 

[athansor]

If they die, that’s not such a bad thing, ultimately, if they’re prepared for death.

So, does that remove our responsibility for caring for the world’s impoverished children? I would think that fighting for innocent life is important for Catholics, whether baptized or not.

 

[po18guy]

Wonderful! I have printed the coupon and forwarded a link to a Catholic email circle that I participate in. Since they have asked, I will keep them in my prayers. Thank you for posting this information!

 

[foolishmortal]

It doesn’t have to be the unborn or the starving kids in the world (as if no kids are starving in America). Still, the aim of a human life is for the soul to go to Heaven, or at least Limbo for non-Christians (still a place of eternal happiness, though they and the sentimentalists would say it’s Heaven). If we can relieve physical suffering, that’s good too.

 

[MumboJumbo]

So now I’m really confused. Should poor people be practicing contraception? Is it the child’s fault that he or she was born into poverty? Someone is at fault for a child being born into poverty?

Poor people still have a responsibility to the rest of the world. Many of those people I mention came from countries whose populations have quadrupled in the last 60 years. How can you possibly blame Americans except that Americans gave those countries medical aid that allowed them to live lives almost as long as citizens in the US.

Should poor people be practicing contraception?

Absolutely. It is called self control.

Why are you blaming the people of the Unites States for something that happens outside of their control?

Is it the child’s fault that he or she was born into poverty?

No. It is the parent’s responsibility that the child was born and no one else’s!

Why are you blaming the people of the Unites States for something that happens outside of their control?

Someone is at fault for a child being born into poverty?/

The parents are responsible for the child being born. PERIOD. If the parents were living in poverty at the time, then yes, the parents are responsible for the child living in poverty.

Why are you blaming the people of the Unites States for something that happens outside of their control?

 

[MumboJumbo]

You make them because they’re the natural outcome of natural sexual reproduction and because we are told to multiply. Also they are brought in by God’s Will to be able to see God, once baptized. If they die, that’s not such a bad thing, ultimately, if they’re prepared for death. We forget this stuff feeling all secure and wealthy.
Secondarily, they can help you when you’re down if you raise them right.

So what do you tell poor Americans when these people use the resources that were intended to feed them?

You’re going to justify giving birth to children whose parents can’t feed them.

Then, you are in favor of allowing those same parents to take the food out of the mouths of poor Americans to feed the child and themselves while leaving the American to go hungry in his own country?

What type of twisted belief in God do you have. It is OK to take from poor Americans? It is just to see people starve as long as they are Americans? Do the parents of the child care that they are causing poor Americans to starve on the streets of America?

 

[athansor]

So what do you tell poor Americans when these people use the resources that were intended to feed them?

You’re going to justify giving birth to children whose parents can’t feed them.

Then, you are in favor of allowing those same parents to take the food out of the mouths of poor Americans to feed the child and themselves while leaving the American to go hungry in his own country?

What type of twisted belief in God do you have. It is OK to take from poor Americans? It is just to see people starve as long as they are Americans? Do the parents of the child care that they are causing poor Americans to starve on the streets of America?

Why are Americans more important than people in other countries? Are we not all equal in God’s eyes? Did God let you be born in America because you were better than someone else who was born in a poor country? Does God like America and Americans better? As a believer, I personally think that all poor children are my responsibility, the ones in my own country and the ones in all other countries equally.

 

[foolishmortal]

America is really the last piece of the socialist puzzle of major countries. We are not better humans than others, but we are more resistant to socialism–that is, we have enough people resistant to it. You’d think Australia, founded by exiled prisoners, would be more with us, but they (not all, of course) apparently like all the goodies the government gives them socially. Not all are technically socialist, but like government attacking religion so they can feel they can do whatever they want, which eventually leads to barbarism (just look at what the Nazis did after some time of the Weinmar Republic and what pirates did with their liberties taken and Sodom and Gomorrah won’t sound like such a story to any areligious or irreligious).
Poland and the Philippines might be more devoutly Catholic, but I don’t know what they’d do against a NWO, if it went imperialist. Then again, Poland did successfully fight off the Moors after the attack on Lepanto was successfully stopped, so you never know when God is brought in (by His own free will, as it’s not a seance) through praying the powerful rosary–especially many praying it.
We are going to be needing aid if we give away money our poor need for school and vital needs. It’s like a mother putting the air mask on herself in a troubled plane, before putting it on her child. Besides, poverty can be a good thing in a stable community, as pleasures are more pure, though it’s not perfect. In cities/suburbs, there’s more opportunism and angst, it seems. Poverty, in itself, is not a perfect condition for the soul, but there is moreso, in families with means, a more hellbound kind of suffering brought on by ourselves as we are more alienated (which can probably be a breath of fresh air for those who don’t fit in in small towns) and lack as much support. In any case, souls goal is to be in salvific grace at death. That’s the problem with all this joining together with other faiths for peace. It legitimizes other faiths and so we don’t tend to help those souls into Heaven. They’ll just go there anyway, if good. The Bible says no man is good, in that way.