Refused Communion on the Tongue

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Sorry folks, but I will only receive our Lord on the tongue & since it is the Church norm I will only receive from the Ordained Ministers. If I believe I am not worthy of touching our Lord’s body, why would I believe any other lay person is worthy of same?🤷
 
Sorry folks, but I will only receive our Lord on the tongue & since it is the Church norm I will only receive from the Ordained Ministers. If I believe I am not worthy of touching our Lord’s body, why would I believe any other lay person is worthy of same?🤷
Is your belief on worthiness in line with the what the Church believes? Or is it a personal belief on your part, more of a personal preference or a discipline?
 
Sorry folks, but I will only receive our Lord on the tongue & since it is the Church norm I will only receive from the Ordained Ministers. If I believe I am not worthy of touching our Lord’s body, why would I believe any other lay person is worthy of same?🤷
Doesnt your tongue touch the Lords body?
 
Is your belief on worthiness in line with the what the Church believes? Or is it a personal belief on your part, more of a personal preference or a discipline?
Clem, It is what I believe & was taught by the Church in my youth. It is between God and I.
Doesnt your tongue touch the Lords body?
And just how do you consume Jesus (if not by mouth) as commanded by Him?:rolleyes:
 
Clem, It is what I believe & was taught by the Church in my youth. It is between God and I.

And just how do you consume Jesus (if not by mouth) as commanded by Him?:rolleyes:
Exactly-you have to touch the Lord to consume him.
 
NOT WITH YOUR HAND/S! Honestly Bob, coming from you, I find this ridicules.
On a side note…Hmmmm…what was done at the last supper?

Having had this nasty stomach bug and having to stay home all weekend…which was torture…hand sanitizer does NOT work on this bug…only soap and water. So those sugesting the aunt go last…and the priest hand sanitize…will NOT work. This bug is highly contagious!
 
As Annabelle said,
I heard on the news that this stomach bug is going around. As well as the flu, the Bishop in my diocese sent out a note that for health reasons due to the flu we must refrain from shaking others hands, and receiving on the tongue. I think it makes sense.

There are elderly and young people who may have a much more fragile immune system than others.
 
I would like to offer a couple of observations from the priest’s perspective.

First, I have no problem with those who choose to receive Holy Communion on the tongue. It is their right, and I have no qualms about it.

Secondly, I have no problem with those who choose to receive in the hand. Likewise, the Church has allowed this practice and I, as all Catholics, must be obedient and accept it.

Thirdly though, generally speaking, I much prefer to distribute to those who receive in the hand and the reason for this is simple. Very few people know how to properly receive Holy Communion on the tongue. Most people who choose to receive in the tongue do one of the following:
  1. Open their mouth but don’t stick their tongue out…this causes me, as the priest, to place my fingers inside the person’s mouth in order to place the host in their mouth.
  2. Biting. Many people “grab” at the host and bite at it with their teeth.
  3. The “moving target” mouth. I must confess that I was guilty of this and my priest, while I was still in seminary, called me out on it. These individuals constantly move their mouth and the priest doesn’t know where to go with the host. This tends to happen among taller people, as I am, in a well intended effort to make life easier for a shorter priest. However, in most cases, we can reach.
  4. The “coin slot” recipient. This phrase was “coined” by a brother transitional deacon while we were discussing this problem in class and trying to find out if we just didn’t know how to distribute Communion or what the problem was. This type of recipient gives the priest exactly what it sounds like…a coin slot in which to “insert” the Eucharist. I’ve found that this is most conducive to having the host be dropped.
  5. The indecisive recipient. These communicants will come forward and do two, sometimes three, different things. They will open their hands, usually below the midsection where it is hard for the priest to see as the communicant’s hands are below the paten or ciborium, AND open their mouth. Or, they will open their mouth and cross their arms, as perhaps the OP’s aunt is accustomed to doing.
I don’t say this to hurt anyone’s feelings, but, if people are going to receive on the tongue, which is absolutely their right to do, they need to be properly instructed on how to do so. The person is to come forward, with hands folded, or preferably even, held behind the back as if the person were standing at attention, say, “Amen,” after the minister says, “The Body of Christ,” open their mouth WIDELY (say “ahh!”, and stick out their tongue. That means the tongue is OUTSIDE of the mouth.

This is just one priest’s perspective, but from conversations I’ve had with brother priests, I can assure you that my experience is not unique.
 
The Apostles, being Bishops, Communicated the exact same way that Bishops do now.

But what does that have to do with us laity?
Well since he was screaming it…I thought it worthy to note. It’s also worthy to note that Jesus never laid down the law that it had to be on the tongue only. Who came up with that? The Church. So…when the Church allows CITH…we don’t listen? Or we scream when we respond (which is what all caps is)? I would think as laity we should be more charitable to those who are also following where the Church has spoken…🤷
 
Thank you Father. As an EMHC, I see similar “postures”. In particular, the “biters” concern me since I am always afraid they may bite the host in two.

At Mass this past Sunday there were two instances of a dropped host. 😦 In one instance it was a young boy who received in the hand but fumbled when lifting the host to his mouth. In the other instance it was a young girl who received in the mouth, but did not open her mouth completely or stand fully facing the priest. In both instance the children retrieved the host from the floor quickly and consumed it. Both of their mothers appeared mortified and I’m sure those children were spoken to after Mass!

Our DRE does a very good job in preparing the children for FHC, but I think people (adults and children) are just embarrased or self concious about fully opening their mouths and putting their tongues out. 😛
I would like to offer a couple of observations from the priest’s perspective.

First, I have no problem with those who choose to receive Holy Communion on the tongue. It is their right, and I have no qualms about it.

Secondly, I have no problem with those who choose to receive in the hand. Likewise, the Church has allowed this practice and I, as all Catholics, must be obedient and accept it.

Thirdly though, generally speaking, I much prefer to distribute to those who receive in the hand and the reason for this is simple. Very few people know how to properly receive Holy Communion on the tongue. Most people who choose to receive in the tongue do one of the following:
  1. Open their mouth but don’t stick their tongue out…this causes me, as the priest, to place my fingers inside the person’s mouth in order to place the host in their mouth.
  2. Biting. Many people “grab” at the host and bite at it with their teeth.
  3. The “moving target” mouth. I must confess that I was guilty of this and my priest, while I was still in seminary, called me out on it. These individuals constantly move their mouth and the priest doesn’t know where to go with the host. This tends to happen among taller people, as I am, in a well intended effort to make life easier for a shorter priest. However, in most cases, we can reach.
  4. The “coin slot” recipient. This phrase was “coined” by a brother transitional deacon while we were discussing this problem in class and trying to find out if we just didn’t know how to distribute Communion or what the problem was. This type of recipient gives the priest exactly what it sounds like…a coin slot in which to “insert” the Eucharist. I’ve found that this is most conducive to having the host be dropped.
  5. The indecisive recipient. These communicants will come forward and do two, sometimes three, different things. They will open their hands, usually below the midsection where it is hard for the priest to see as the communicant’s hands are below the paten or ciborium, AND open their mouth. Or, they will open their mouth and cross their arms, as perhaps the OP’s aunt is accustomed to doing.
I don’t say this to hurt anyone’s feelings, but, if people are going to receive on the tongue, which is absolutely their right to do, they need to be properly instructed on how to do so. The person is to come forward, with hands folded, or preferably even, held behind the back as if the person were standing at attention, say, “Amen,” after the minister says, “The Body of Christ,” open their mouth WIDELY (say “ahh!”, and stick out their tongue. That means the tongue is OUTSIDE of the mouth.

This is just one priest’s perspective, but from conversations I’ve had with brother priests, I can assure you that my experience is not unique.
 
I don’t say this to hurt anyone’s feelings, but, if people are going to receive on the tongue, which is absolutely their right to do, they need to be properly instructed on how to do so. The person is to come forward, with hands folded, or preferably even, held behind the back as if the person were standing at attention, say, “Amen,” after the minister says, “The Body of Christ,” open their mouth WIDELY (say “ahh!”, and stick out their tongue. That means the tongue is OUTSIDE of the mouth.

This is just one priest’s perspective, but from conversations I’ve had with brother priests, I can assure you that my experience is not unique.
The question is, how often do you talk about this with your congregation?

The last time I heard a “how to receive” instruction was 40 years ago, when I was 7. 🤷 I am betting most people are in the same situation. It isn’t that they want to receive wrong, they just don’t know any better.
 
Well since he was screaming it…I thought it worthy to note. It’s also worthy to note that Jesus never laid down the law that it had to be on the tongue only. Who came up with that? The Church. So…when the Church allows CITH…we don’t listen? Or we scream when we respond (which is what all caps is)? I would think as laity we should be more charitable to those who are also following where the Church has spoken…🤷
I don’t think anyone ever said that COIT was not allowed in the US ( it is, actually in other parts of the world)

But you still never answered the question. Bishops receive differently that the faithful do, since they are priests, they retrieve the Hosts themselves and consume it themselves, which was exactly as the Apostles (who were Bishops) did it.

I don’t think anyone in this thread has criticized how the clergy consume the Host, so why mention the Biblical example of clergy receiving the Blessed Sacrament?
 
The whole concern over the flu and illness for COTT vs CITH, really, is ignoring how dirty, filthy, and contaminated most peoples’ hands are. I honestly wouldn’t be more surprised if less germs are transmitted by COTT vs CITH because the priest is more aware of the possiblity of contamination, and works harder not to touch the person’s mouth/tongue vs putting the Eucharist in peoples’ contaminated hands.
 
I don’t think anyone ever said that COIT was not allowed in the US ( it is, actually in other parts of the world)

But you still never answered the question. Bishops receive differently that the faithful do, since they are priests, they retrieve the Hosts themselves and consume it themselves, which was exactly as the Apostles (who were Bishops) did it.

I don’t think anyone in this thread has criticized how the clergy consume the Host, so why mention the Biblical example of clergy receiving the Blessed Sacrament?
At the first supper, they were Bishops then? They were priests then? Don’t think so. That came later. Jesus was speaking to all of us…that is why I had the biblical example if you insist on harassing me on this point. In addition, the gentlemen was very clear that he disapproved of CITH. When you shout something like that it’s pretty clear. Can you drop it now? I suspect not…
 
Or in this case to distribute at all. Obviously the EMHC’s are not well-trained enough if they can’t do this without touching tongues.
In my experience, part of the problem is that many people do not open their mouths and stick out their tongues. It’s like trying to put a quarter into a vending machine without touching the machine.
 
The question is, how often do you talk about this with your congregation?

The last time I heard a “how to receive” instruction was 40 years ago, when I was 7. 🤷 I am betting most people are in the same situation. It isn’t that they want to receive wrong, they just don’t know any better.

Absolutely correct - explaining about how and WHO you are receiving has been so very neglected over these many years. It is sad that an elderly Catholic woman would be refused receiving Holy Communion; so disturbing to her - she will probably never forget it. In many instances, some people think they “know better”. Let’s get things right in line with Holy Mother Church and stop trying to twist things. Spiritually prepare for Holy Communion and physically approach Our Lord with reverence and humility. “Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof”! (under your roof - not in your hand!)
 
What was done when communion could only be received by tongue during epidemics? People fell ill I suppose. I never understood how and why the change was made anyway. I know I read that the Pope stressed receiving by tongue even after the change.
 

Absolutely correct - explaining about how and WHO you are receiving has been so very neglected over these many years. It is sad that an elderly Catholic woman would be refused receiving Holy Communion; so disturbing to her - she will probably never forget it. In many instances, some people think they “know better”. Let’s get things right in line with Holy Mother Church and stop trying to twist things. Spiritually prepare for Holy Communion and physically approach Our Lord with reverence and humility. “Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof”! (under your roof - not in your hand!)
While I agree with you on most things…I hardly think you needed to put your (under your roof - not in your hand). The Church has spoken on this already. Both are allowed (COTT and CITH). Both can be done with reverence and humility. Indeed the under my roof refers to a scripture passage…not how we physically receive Him.
 
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