Refute this claim?

[Valke2]

I haven’t researched the issue fully, but I just want to point out what might be an apologetic weakness in some of the arguments made above. IF the assertion is made in the Talmud or Midrash, then the argument with a Jewish person that “it seems unlikely whether a Jewish counsel would do such and such” will be dismissed as spurious. Keep in mind, the Jews have their own ideas about the development of their faith and ways of explaining their doctrinal advances.

Anyhow, the argument of historical authority seems to be the least question begging, and the simple fact is that the first references made to Christ or Christians in Talmudic literature don’t come until well after the Christian phenomenon had already taken hold and is well documented. All other things being equal, it seems highly unlikely that such an obvious piece of evidence such as the one this story claims would have been easily overlooked by the converts to the new religion - many of whom were intensely observant Jews.

I do not believe the Talmud states that Jesus was removed from his tomb and displayed. I think, and I could be wrong, that the original post on that website was saying that Jesus was removed – an action not set forth in Talmud-- and that it was common to display a body by hanging for a few minutes – which can be found in the Talmud (which states one should not leave a body hanging overnight).

 

[Valke2]

Good point about the dead. I do not think a Jewish counsel would dig up the dead. That would be against Jewish Law. The Romans would not do it because they could care less. Even if we suggest the notion of the Jewish Sanhedrin going to dig him up, the amount of people claiming to be the Messiah at that time had more attention. Having rejected Christ, they would certainly not entertain the idea to go double-check. They saw Him die, the Romans confirmed His death, and the Sanhedrin didn’t consider a resurrection.

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius

As long as we’re talking about jewish law , there are a few other things to consider. Bruce James points out a few serious conflicts with Christian Bible’s account of the trial and execution of Jesus and with Jewish law:

Trials were only held on Monday’s and Thursdays – market days. These were days when the most people were available and gave the best chance of finding witnesses. No trial would ever be held on passover or any other festival day.

You need at least two witness for a capital crime trial. They would have to testify that the defendant was warned not to do the act and then he went and did it anyway. A mob does not = 2 valid witnesses. Bearing false witness was a captial offense.

Before a capital trial gets underway, a town crier was to proclaim the allegation and ask anyone who had information in defense of the witness to step forward. This was done over a period of days to make sure the defendant had ample opportunity to get witnesses for his/her defense.

Torah would prohibit taking a dead body through town to a tomb on Sabbath. (prohibition against moving a body from a public to private place on shabbat)

Death penalty by the Sanhedrin was carried out almost never. Perhaps less than once in 70 years, for a variety of reasons.

 

[Tim_Kirchoff]

As long as we’re talking about jewish law , there are a few other things to consider. Bruce James points out a few serious conflicts with Christian Bible’s account of the trial and execution of Jesus and with Jewish law:

Trials were only held on Monday’s and Thursdays – market days. These were days when the most people were available and gave the best chance of finding witnesses. No trial would ever be held on passover or any other festival day.

That’s why the Sanhedrin held trial on Thursday, right after Jesus was arrested. Pilate’s trial was the next day.

You need at least two witness for a capital crime trial. They would have to testify that the defendant was warned not to do the act and then he went and did it anyway. A mob does not = 2 valid witnesses. Bearing false witness was a captial offense.

The “mob trial” was before Pilate. The sanhedrin trial had numerous witnesses- and who would tell that the witnesses were false, if it was a conspiracy in the first place?

Before a capital trial gets underway, a town crier was to proclaim the allegation and ask anyone who had information in defense of the witness to step forward. This was done over a period of days to make sure the defendant had ample opportunity to get witnesses for his/her defense.

If Jesus had chosen to defend Himself, he could have refuted the claims against Him with ease. When it came to the trials, he said almost nothing. And all of His followers had scattered after He was arrested. Peter denied he even knew Jesus. And the Sanhedrin did not want Jesus to go free. Normal procedure means little.

Torah would prohibit taking a dead body through town to a tomb on Sabbath. (prohibition against moving a body from a public to private place on shabbat)

Jesus’ followers were careful to bury Jesus before sunset. They had to somewhat hastily lay Him in the tomb, so after the Sabbath was over, the women came back with incense (or whatever you want to call it, I don’t know if incense is the right word)

Death penalty by the Sanhedrin was carried out almost never. Perhaps less than once in 70 years, for a variety of reasons.

The main reason being that the Sanhedrin did not have the authority to carry out capital punishment- that was reserved to the Roman government.

 

[guanophore]

"Jewish website:

Jesus was killed on the cross, a well known Roman way of execution, the Romans at the time regarded him as a heretic.

This is false. The Romans never asked Jesus about his beliefs/religion. He was condemned as a seditionist. The Jewish leaders told Pilate that He claimed to be a king, and was challenging Ceasar’s Imperial Authority.
Jewish website:

After he died, he was taken down and buried by his Jewish followers. The Jewish court immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

Prove this! There is far more evidence for the Christian rendition of history.

This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

This is a wild effort to avoid the facts. Spend your time in the CAF library instead!