Refute this claim?

[DylanO]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote:

Jesus was killed on the cross, a well known Roman way of execution, the Romans at the time regarded him as a heretic. After he died, he was taken down and buried by his Jewish followers. The Jewish court immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

 

[iamrefreshed]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote:

This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

Uh, sure. I was there, that’s not how it happened!

Kidding, what are you looking for?

 

[Mannyfit75]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote:

This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

A lie no doubt. Jesus did died and rose from the dead. He even ate with his disciples.

 

[Melchior]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote:

This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

Why would anyone need to? The burden of proof is on them to provide one shred of evidence that this took place. The primary sources for the true vew is overwhelming in the scriptural account and extra biblical early historians.

Mel

 

[DylanO]

Kidding, what are you looking for?

This claim:

The Jewish court immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

I’ve never heard this claim before; did the Sanhedrin do this to the executed like this site says?

 

[catharina]

Excuse me?
The “claim” sounds both anti-Christian and anti-Jewish.

Any observant Jew knews full well that Jesus was executed
as a political agitator by the Roman government, nothing more or less.

My guess? The website could NOT be Jewish.

 

[DylanO]

Here is the site I saw this on: geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp01b.html

It was in one of the responses from the Jewish person who is defending the Talmud. Seeing he is Jewish (Orthodox, I’m assuming) he doesn’t believe in Jesus’ resurrection so he is saying that the Sanhedrin immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

That is what I am talking about.

Here is the exact quote:

According to Jewish law there is no hanging or crucifying as a death penalty. The dead bodies are hanged after the execution for 5-10 minutes in order to publicize the execution (see Talmud Sanhedrin ibid.). Jesus was killed on the cross, a well known Roman way of execution, the Romans at the time regarded him as a heretic. After he died, he was taken down and buried by his Jewish followers. The Jewish court immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.
E.S./Edited David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

 

[rpp]

Hmm, I find the assertion on the “Jewish” webite dubious at best.

Why would the Romans consider Christ a heretic? They weren’t Jewish, so what kind of Roman “heresies” was Christ teaching? Roman rulers at the time, while pagan, held to a secular form of rule. An argument might be made that Christ was a political agitator, but that is not what this web site is claiming.

There are some very strict religious laws regarding the handling of dead bodies, it is unlikely that religious leaders would disinter anyone. The fact that that is strictly forbidden in Mosaic law being a rather important point.

Next, since He had already been crucified publicly, and people saw Him die, why would there be a need to disinter Him and put Him on display again for 10 minutes? That seems rather silly, not to mention absurd when Jewish law regarding the handling of human remains is taken into account.

Finally, this is a relatively new assertion. In my more than 2 decades as an anti-Christian and atheist, I never came across this. They are going to need some serious sources to refute 2,000 of accepted history. It is one thing to deny the Resurrection, but to claim disinterment against Jewish law and public display of the body is in a category by itself.

 

[catharina]

Hmm, I find the assertion on the “Jewish” webite dubious at best.

Why would the Romans consider Christ a heretic? They weren’t Jewish, so what kind of Roman “heresies” was Christ teaching. Roman rulers at the time, while pagan, held to a secular form of rule. An argument might be made that Christ was a political agitator, but that is not what this web site is claiming.

There are some very strict religious laws regarding the handling of dead bodies, it is unlikely that religious leaders would disinter anyone. The fact that that is strictly forbidden in Mosaic law being a rather important point.

Next, since He had already been crucified publicly, and people saw Him die, why would there be a need to disinter Him and put Him on display again for 10 minutes. That seems rather silly, not to mention absurd when Jewish law regarding the handling of human remains is taken into account.

Finally, this is a relatively new assertion. In my more than 2 decades as an anti-Christian and atheist, I never came across this. They are going to need some serious sources to refute 2,000 of accepted history. It is one thing to deny the Resurrection, but to claim disinterment against Jewish law and public display of the body is in a category by itself.

rpp - I completely agree - as I said in Post # 6.
That website? Very wacky, IMO.

 

[Catholic_Dude]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote:
This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

There is SOME, shall we say, “TRUTH” to that story:
St Matthew 28:
11While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened.

12When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, 13telling them, “You are to say, ‘His disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep.’ 14If this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble.” 15So the soldiers took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been widely circulated among the Jews to this very day.

 

[teme]

Interesting story this site poses. But, from a theological perspective, to both Jews and Christians, it has as much relevance as a speculation on whether Christ enjoyed fried fish as a meal, or if he prefered some other form of protein. If we take this source as truth, it still does not refute the resurrection, rather posing an interesting story of no significance, worthy only to be published electonically, and not in any paper form.

In fact, if the Sanhedrin had Jesus exhumed to publicly prove his death, this does nothing but prove that Jesus was in fact dead, before he left the tomb, and walked the Earth once more. He rose 3 days later, not immediately following his death, the timetable for the reported exhumation. We recall the story of the blind man Jesus told to wash in the well, and then he regained his sight. Essentially, this irrelevant claim you have found is similar to someone who may have seen the blind man on the way to the well, unable to see, and therefore claimed Jesus didn’t cure him.

 

[iamrefreshed]

Here is the site I saw this on: geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp01b.html

It was in one of the responses from the Jewish person who is defending the Talmud. Seeing he is Jewish (Orthodox, I’m assuming) he doesn’t believe in Jesus’ resurrection so he is saying that the Sanhedrin immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

That is what I am talking about.

Here is the exact quote:

Even IF they did do that, how would that prevent Him from rising 3 days later?

 

[Em_in_FL]

Here is the site I saw this on: geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp01b.html

It was in one of the responses from the Jewish person who is defending the Talmud. Seeing he is Jewish (Orthodox, I’m assuming) he doesn’t believe in Jesus’ resurrection so he is saying that the Sanhedrin immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.

That is what I am talking about.

Here is the exact quote:

According to Jewish law there is no hanging or crucifying as a death penalty. The dead bodies are hanged after the execution for 5-10 minutes in order to publicize the execution (see Talmud Sanhedrin ibid.). Jesus was killed on the cross, a well known Roman way of execution, the Romans at the time regarded him as a heretic. After he died, he was taken down and buried by his Jewish followers. The Jewish court immediately dug him up and hung him for 10 minutes then buried him again to prove that he is dead and that his body did not rise to heaven.
E.S./Edited David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

First off… if they dug him up IMMEDIATELY, then YES, he WOULD still be DEAD (he didn’t rise until Easter)…

But I thought they buried him quickly, so as to avoid burying on the Sabbath, right?..
Chances are, Jews wouldn’t necessarily have had time to dig him up and do this “double check” before the Sabbath fell at sundown, correct?

 

[Leopard]

…Chances are, Jews wouldn’t necessarily have had time to dig him up and do this “double check” before the Sabbath fell at sundown, correct?

There wouldn’t have been any digging involved, Christ was entombed in a tomb cut from the rock with a large stone to seal the entrance. Not that that matters. The story is false.

 

[VociMike]

This is trivially easy to refute. Why would anybody, right after Jesus’ death and burial, dig up his body to prove that he was dead and his body had not risen to heaven? Nobody was claiming at that point that Jesus’ body would then rise up to heaven!

In fact, even if it did happen, it proves nothing. If they did this immediately after his burial, then he hadn’t yet risen so it’s quite possible that his dead body would have been in the tomb.

So, it’s obviously made-up, and it doesn’t even refute what they claim it refutes.

 

[FCEGM]

This is trivially easy to refute. Why would anybody, right after Jesus’ death and burial, dig up his body to prove that he was dead and his body had not risen to heaven? Nobody was claiming at that point that Jesus’ body would then rise up to heaven!

In fact, even if it did happen, it proves nothing. If they did this immediately after his burial, then he hadn’t yet risen so it’s quite possible that his dead body would have been in the tomb.

So, it’s obviously made-up, and it doesn’t even refute what they claim it refutes.

And can you imagine the whole “Jewish court” having anything to do with a dead body thus making themselves unclean for Passover?

 

[Em_in_FL]

There wouldn’t have been any digging involved, Christ was entombed in a tomb cut from the rock with a large stone to seal the entrance. Not that that matters. The story is false.

Oh I know… just arguing against the whole idea in the first place…

So, it’s obviously made-up, and it doesn’t even refute what they claim it refutes.

Exactly…

 

[quiet52]

Just a note – Jesus rose “on the third day” – not three days later.

 

[po18guy]

I was browsing the internet and found this quote: This is from a Jewish website, can anyone refute this claim?

This is such a tangential response to Christianity. They have scripture to back this up, right? 1,974 years later, it’s easy to make stuff up.

Christ’s peace.

 

[Valke2]

As I understand it, there was a practice of hanging the bodies from a tree for a few minutes of certain criminals. IT was always for a very short period of time and done immediately after execution. I don’t see how this is an argument against resurrection (which I don’t believe happened). IN fact, the quote is in a response to a claim that the Jewish court killed Jesus. The claim says the Sanhedrin hanged (hung) Jesus. The response you quoted was saying ‘yes, but he was already dead and it was done to show that he was dead’.