Refuting study which claims same-sex parents offer equal outcomes

[Trident_H]

My friend from your post you are having a very hard time accepting yourself. I would recommend professional help. If you can not accept who you are and love yourself as yourself, then relationships will be very hard be they straight or gay. I feel God will Judge one by the way they live their lives.

Well thanks for that. Although I wish that was a more comforting thought! God judging me is something I’m not all that looking forward to tbh. But I appreciate the sentiments. I really do.

Do you care about others.

A little too much, actually.

Are you able to love and comment to one.

No one else is in my life at the moment.

Do you reach out to help those less able.

I used to, but I tended to hurt those I cared most about. Now I just stay clear of people.

Do you do and say things that hurt or judge others? Do you promote hate or pain to others in your actions.

Not on purpose. With me it is sort of a natural side effect of who I am.

Do you believe and is your Faith strong?

Yes, but no, my faith is not strong. I am too scared of God. I used to read the old testament and think that everything there was just fine, but now I just remember that He doesn’t much like the kind of guy I am. I just keep a low profile and hope God won’t notice I’m there.

As for saying it is not as easy as having blue eyes just maybe it is that easy. You do not know that. If it is based on one action you had as a young person that then made you gay then why is it that many young boys have the same and they end up straight. If you are to ask what makes me gay then should you not ask what makes me straight? Could a straight man just one day say “Oh today I will be gay. I will love another man and be attracted to him.” No! A straight man will tell you he could never have those feelings or attractions to the same sex. So why is it so hard to believe that a gay man feels the same? In studies a very large number of gays say they knew when they were children that their feelings were different. Those that were loved and supported were able to accept them selves and love themselves as they were and love Jesus and understand that Jesus loves them.

Thank you for that. You are very kind to take the time to mention all that. I think maybe you have a point there–okay, I mean I hope you have a point there.

Then too many were hated, told they were sick, even told this by their own parents. Many young gay boys were thrown out of their homes onto the streets. So would one wonder why some of these may have problems?

Yeah, that sounds like my family. I mean if we ever heard about a guy who got beat up because he was gay the response from my family was that he deserved it. I grew up that way. I believed it. I scoffed along with them. The little tiny doubt in the back of my brain just kept getting pushed aside. There was such a stigma there and my family was of the type where you didn’t question you just obeyed. So I never questioned.

Others hide from themselves the truth. They tried very hard to “be straight”. They Married
had children and they tried so hard to not face their true feelings. Then in years later they came out. Or they were caught with someone of the same sex. They ran from one sex act to the next behind closed doors in fear they would be found out. When they are then they are not alone in the pain and hurt. You now have a wife that is hurt and the children that is very confused.

Yeah that’s a bit of how my life went, but my wife left for different reasons. One of them was that I refused to have kids. I think she never suspected anything else. I thought getting married would cure me of my problems, but it just made them worse. I thought I’d stop thinking about guys when I was married. I just thought I was oversexed and so all that was caused from abstinence before marriage. There is a lot of irony in how that played out in the end.

So is that a better result than accepting gay marriage and promoting the true commitment and love to ONE person? Accept yourself and love yourself. Until then you will be unable to really love another. Know that Jesus loves you.

Wow. I really think you have a handle on this subject. Thank you so much for taking the time to lend me a hand. I mean it. I was so used to getting judged for a while that every time I get support like this it almost makes me weep.

Peace.

-Trident

 

[johnnypdx]

Thank you… I will prey for you and please understand that God is all forgiving. I would add that you need to seek out some help. Go to church and accept Jesus into your life now. Whatever Church you feel OK with. I am Catholic and I understand that some hard line Catholics will tell you that you are a sinner etc.! In the Catholic Church I go to and the Father I respect there you will not hear that. The Church is changing and our new Pope is a good man and caring. God Bless you and accept yourself as God made you. You can not change your parents nor the past. You can change tomorrow!

 

[dshix]

So a friend of mine who supports same-sex marriage sent me this link (I’ve attached the study in pdf):
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150615103946.htm

Apparently it’s the largest metastudy ever done on the effects of same-sex parenting compared to opposite-sex parenting.

I’m not scientific enough to be able to refute it, or point of flaws in methodology or conclusions or anything.

I was wondering if anyone here was

The amusing fact about this issue is that it is impossible for a comprehensive, well-documented study to exist about homosexual cohabitors raising children; why?.. because homosexuals only make up 2-3% of the population and they have not been in the limelight for study for more than a decade.

It’s impossible for any study to make conclusive statements because there is NOT ENOUGH DATA.

 

[johnnypdx]

good point. We really don’t know how many gay couples are raising kids. On your point that there is only 2 or 3% gay in the population! Not sure that is true. We really have no real idea as long as many would not admit being gay and many living in straight relationships to hide being gay. I bet it is more like 10% or maybe even higher if all were really counted.

 

[dshix]

good point. We really don’t know how many gay couples are raising kids. On your point that there is only 2 or 3% gay in the population! Not sure that is true. We really have no real idea as long as many would not admit being gay and many living in straight relationships to hide being gay. I bet it is more like 10% or maybe even higher if all were really counted.

Oh, you think 2-3% isn’t a reasonable estimate? Look what a google search produces:

washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/15/what-percentage-of-the-u-s-population-is-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual/
gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/21/gallup-americans-greatly-overestimate-percentage-of-gays-lesbians-in-u-s/
bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-22/americans-vastly-overestimate-size-of-lgbt-population

 

[johnnypdx]

Ok they asked 34,000 adults. I do not see how these research polls can be right on or even close. Just say we were able to ask 500 gay people "Are you Gay?’ My bet is 350 would say no. I do bet that now that the marriage thing is law of the land your numbers will go up. As more gays feel ok about who they are. You are seeing that already among young adults. Just 5 years ago a gay high school club would be unheard of. Today we see them. Five years ago we could view young gay teens kill themselves. I prey those numbers come down. I do not claim to understand why someone is gay anymore than I understand what makes someone straight. I just do not judge people and leave judgment to God. Jesus would turn no one away nor will I.

 

[dshix]

I do not see how these research polls can be right on or even close. Just say we were able to ask 500 gay people "Are you Gay?’ My bet is 350 would say no.

You have a bias; where is your evidence for this conclusion? I need facts to show me that you are correct in your assumption that 150 of the 500 people (30%) would lie.

You can’t just say that without providing evidence for the truthfulness of it.

 

[Trident_H]

You have a bias; where is your evidence for this conclusion? I need facts to show me that you are correct in your assumption that 150 of the 500 people (30%) would lie.

You can’t just say that without providing evidence for the truthfulness of it.

Up until recently I would have lied. But then I’m just one. Gotta find another 149 I guess.

 

[johnnypdx]

No bias! I did not say it was in any type of research. There is not one to say how many lie. I said “I bet” my view! You have yours. Would gay people not admit to being gay? Well…in MY VIEW…Yes. Why? Before gay marriage and before America became more open towards gays in general it was not just unpopular to be gay but could be dangerous. If we go back just 5 years a gay person could be attacked. Could loss their job. If married would they admit to their wife in a poll. Some could not even admit to themselves. Why would they lie? FEAR. Fear of rejection by people they care about and depend on. I will add here that I am a social worker by profession. I worked for years with youth. I saw first hand how hard it was for gay youth in America. The streets were full of them. Put out of their homes for being gay. Having to sell themselves to survive. I worked a time in youth street programs. So why would a high number not admit being gay? If you do not know why then you have zero real understanding of the issue or the people. People are real not just polls and research! God Bless.

 

[dshix]

No bias! I did not say it was in any type of research. There is not one to say how many lie. I said “I bet” my view! You have yours. Would gay people not admit to being gay? Well…in MY VIEW…Yes. Why? Before gay marriage and before America became more open towards gays in general it was not just unpopular to be gay but could be dangerous. If we go back just 5 years a gay person could be attacked. Could loss their job. If married would they admit to their wife in a poll. Some could not even admit to themselves. Why would they lie? FEAR. Fear of rejection by people they care about and depend on. I will add here that I am a social worker by profession. I worked for years with youth. I saw first hand how hard it was for gay youth in America. The streets were full of them. Put out of their homes for being gay. Having to sell themselves to survive. I worked a time in youth street programs. So why would a high number not admit being gay? If you do not know why then you have zero real understanding of the issue or the people. People are real not just polls and research! God Bless.

I actually agree with the majority of what you have said here. My only problem is with the cultural tendency to assume things which are not true, simply because they appear to be true; such as when a gallup poll records that people greatly overestimate the number of gay and lesbian persons in the country.

When people assign figures to things that they only have a cursory knowledge of, and think those figures are fact, that allows them to justify behavior on the made-up fact. If people think that 30% of the population is gay, it’s pretty likely that they will let the gay agenda take control.

If people assume that there HAVE to be more gays than then actual studies show, then what’s the point of studies at all? How do we REALLY know that the earth revolves around the sun, or that the world sex ratio is 101 men to 100 women, or that cohabitation leads to a higher chance of divorce? Do we trust study? The actual world functions (and must function) upon documented findings, not undocumented imaginings.

Therefore I reject that we must assume that there are more gays than are documented, especially since I can’t find a good reason why we should make such an assumption. What benefit will it bring us or society? None I can see.

 

[johnnypdx]

“gay agenda take control”! Ummm! I see some bias here my friend. I understand your point about studies of the sun and earth. There are those that have studies to say there is no God at all. People are not as easy to study. We have to just count on them telling the truth. We never know if they really do. Also not sure what your point is on some number of people. My God cares about ALL people. You are trying and may not even be aware of it to use numbers, polls and studies to maybe justify your bias and yes prejudice of a group of people. If the numbers are low enough I can say these people do not matter. In my Faith all people matter. In my Faith I want no teen or child having to sell themselves to survive or feeling as if God does not love them. I have to ask are you a man of God and Faith? If so spend more time accepting others as Gods children and let God not you be the Judge. No one appointed you as Judge of others have they? The agenda is simple. Live and let live. Love and let love. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone! Gays have been apart of man kind as long as man kind has been here. I really care less why they are gay. Why is it one person brown another white? Who cares both are children of one God. And my friend you are not God! God nor Jesus asked YOU to judge others or pass judgment onto others or groups of his children. Jesus ask that we love our neighbor as we love ourselves. Take more time to reach out to others and learn that you may never have all your questions answered anymore than the one that tells me prove ,by studies, there is a real God! I can not do that nor can you. Yet; we do believe in God do we not? I do. And my God is all loving and forgiving. I understand you will say “I am not bias or prejudice”. Do not take that wrong I mean no disrespect. Be truthful to yourself and ask if not maybe you are to a point! God Bless

 

[dshix]

“gay agenda take control”! Ummm! I see some bias here my friend.
I understand your point about studies of the sun and earth. There are those that have studies to say there is no God at all. People are not as easy to study.

We have to just count on them telling the truth. We never know if they really do. Also not sure what your point is on some number of people. My God cares about ALL people. You are trying and may not even be aware of it to use numbers, polls and studies to maybe justify your bias and yes prejudice of a group of people. If the numbers are low enough I can say these people do not matter. In my Faith all people matter. In my Faith I want no teen or child having to sell themselves to survive or feeling as if God does not love them.

I have to ask are you a man of God and Faith? If so spend more time accepting others as Gods children and let God not you be the Judge. No one appointed you as Judge of others have they?

The agenda is simple. Live and let live. Love and let love. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone! Gays have been apart of man kind as long as man kind has been here. I really care less why they are gay. Why is it one person brown another white? Who cares both are children of one God. And my friend you are not God! God nor Jesus asked YOU to judge others or pass judgment onto others or groups of his children. Jesus ask that we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

Take more time to reach out to others and learn that you may never have all your questions answered anymore than the one that tells me prove ,by studies, there is a real God! I can not do that nor can you. Yet; we do believe in God do we not? I do. And my God is all loving and forgiving. I understand you will say “I am not bias or prejudice”. Do not take that wrong I mean no disrespect. Be truthful to yourself and ask if not maybe you are to a point! God Bless

(I had to parse out your post a bit because it was very hard to read in “wall of text” form)

I guess we need to do a quick review of different kinds of bias.

Every person on the planet has biases of many types. This is an unavoidable part of human nature.
However, the bias which I have shown regarding my moral belief that gay sexual behavior is intrinsically evil is not an unfounded bias, because I have based it on the teaching of the Catholic Church, which is infallible, and on my own human experience, which has led me to believe that homosexual behavior has not brought any good to the individuals or to society.

The bias which you showed (your belief that there must be a great deal more gay and lesbian people in the US than studies show) is not based on fact, and though it perhaps may stand to reason, you did not give any evidence to support it.

I contend that biases which are based on facts or other forms of reliable information are, in fact, good, because they fortify us against things which are unhealthy to us. Biases that are based on opinion without supporting facts, however, are dangerous and to be avoided.

Now, leaving that topic…

I have to ask are you a man of God and Faith? If so spend more time accepting others as Gods children and let God not you be the Judge. No one appointed you as Judge of others have they?

Being a man of “God and Faith” does not imply that one should allow others to wallow in their sin and bring down the rest of society with them. In fact, it implies the opposite. I and you both have an obligation to do all we can to fight the gay agenda to redefine marriage (which they have recently accomplished) and change society’s conception of what healthy human sexuality is.

The agenda is simple. Live and let live. Love and let love. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone! Gays have been apart of man kind as long as man kind has been here. I really care less why they are gay. Why is it one person brown another white? Who cares both are children of one God. And my friend you are not God! God nor Jesus asked YOU to judge others or pass judgment onto others or groups of his children. Jesus ask that we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

“Live and let live” is NOT Catholic teaching. We are called to conquer the world and bring it to the grace of Christ, not let it wallow in Satan’s grip. I don’t have to be God to pass judgement on the ACTIONS of others, and try to stop them from doing those actions.

(I have to go now, but I’ll respond later to your next objections.)

 

[johnnypdx]

The Church I attend would disagree with a lot of you view. During a mass the Father said the Church accepts all people and he said gay as well into the Church. You are still living under the old God will dam you to hell school of thought that I do not accept. I now see very clearly you are VERY prejudice and you are VERY Judgmental. I will respect your right to be prejudice; however. I refuse to agree with you and find it sad you spend so mush time looking for numbers and research to justify your hate and bias toward others. I also think you will see the new Pope would refuse a lot of your words himself. Jesus NEVER spoke one word on homosexuality. Got news for you. Gay marriage is the law of the land. As is interracial marriage. Which I am sure you once were not in support of. Move on and try helping others and less time playing God and condemning others. Feel sorry for you as I would most begets! I will prey for you. God Bless

 

[Trident_H]

The Church I attend would disagree with a lot of you view. During a mass the Father said the Church accepts all people and he said gay as well into the Church. You are still living under the old God will dam you to hell school of thought that I do not accept. I now see very clearly you are VERY prejudice and you are VERY Judgmental. I will respect your right to be prejudice; however. I refuse to agree with you and find it sad you spend so mush time looking for numbers and research to justify your hate and bias toward others. I also think you will see the new Pope would refuse a lot of your words himself. Jesus NEVER spoke one word on homosexuality. Got news for you. Gay marriage is the law of the land. As is interracial marriage. Which I am sure you once were not in support of. Move on and try helping others and less time playing God and condemning others. Feel sorry for you as I would most begets! I will prey for you. God Bless

Hey Johhnypdx, I really appreciate your support. I so much do. I just want to interject here and say that I’ve read a lot of dshix’s posts and I don’t see the hate and intolerance. I just see a desire to follow the Church’s teachings and I respect that. I don’t want you to be upset with dshix. I like his/her posts usually so please don’t do this for me, k? I really, really appreciate the clarity you have helped to bring here and I really like the help you’ve given me in feeling welcomed. Just knowing there are people like you out there really makes me feel accepted–but in the same way I accept dshix, k? I hope you understand and don’t feel bad. I want you to know that I love that you’d stand up for the underdog. If only I’d had someone like you nearby when I was going through some tough times I think I would have made some way better choices. You have no idea.

Peace, friend.

-Trident

 

[dshix]

The Church I attend would disagree with a lot of you view. During a mass the Father said the Church accepts all people and he said gay as well into the Church. You are still living under the old God will dam you to hell school of thought that I do not accept. I now see very clearly you are VERY prejudice and you are VERY Judgmental. I will respect your right to be prejudice; however. I refuse to agree with you and find it sad you spend so mush time looking for numbers and research to justify your hate and bias toward others. I also think you will see the new Pope would refuse a lot of your words himself. Jesus NEVER spoke one word on homosexuality. Got news for you. Gay marriage is the law of the land. As is interracial marriage. Which I am sure you once were not in support of. Move on and try helping others and less time playing God and condemning others. Feel sorry for you as I would most begets! I will prey for you. God Bless

Hmm, I see that the gloves have finally come off. I thought before that I was in a dialogue with a person who had an understanding of Catholic theology similar to that understanding which the Church itself teaches.

You are mistaken that there is such a thing as the “old God will damn you to hell school of thought”. The Church’s understanding of the Faith has never changed since its founding, and those who call themselves “Catholic” must ascribe to the Church’s teaching.

The Church’s teaching states that homosexual acts are intrinsically evil, and, as a matter of fact, that they are an “abomination” in the eyes of God. Note that this does not say or imply that people who experience homosexual tendencies are intrinsically evil, only that they are sinning mortally by engaging in homosexual acts.

Because the Church’s teaching is what it is, you are entirely mistaken about Pope Francis. He will continue to uphold the Church’s teaching throughout his time as Pontiff, and never will he state that homosexual acts are good.

One more thing: I find it ridiculous that you think calling me “prejudiced”, “judgemental”, “hateful”, or “playing God”, or declaring that I am not in support of interracial marriage (it’s ludicrous for you to suggest that) does anything to help your position. As the saying goes, the first person to start “calling names” loses, and I’m afraid you started calling names.

I am quite sure that you will disagree with me on all the things I have said above; therefore, the reason I have stated these things is not to convince you, but to make my position clear, and for the benefit of any readers who may be wondering where you went wrong. Now that I understand this dialogue we have been having was not about the thread’s subject matter (“Refuting study which claims same-sex parents offer equal outcomes”) but was about whether it is right to condemn homosexuality, I see that we should not be talking about this off-topic subject at all in this thread.

Before I sign off, I want to be clear: none of what I have said has been intended as a a personal attack on you. On the contrary, I am very concerned that you are, perhaps, not thinking or speaking in alignment with what the Catholic Church teaches, and I hope that you can have a wake-up call to really understand the Church’s position. Homosexual sins are a blight on society. Not homosexual people; homosexual sins. This is the Church’s teaching, and therefore, the teaching of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and as a Catholic, you are morally bound to abide by Christ’s will. I encourage you to learn more about the homosexual issue here on the forums and on the main Catholic Answers website.

I wish you all the best. God bless you and keep you in His ways.

 

[johnnypdx]

We can agree to disagree. As I stated not the message coming from my Catholic Church or Father. However; I understand you hold to very old tight old rules of the Bible. If we followed all of them we would be stoning some to death still. Enough said on this. You do understand that the marriage laws will not change it is now the law of the land. Even in Ireland my home country that is VERY Catholic. The Church is changing. The pope has just made a change toward divorce that was a old held view. So you will see change as the Church try’s to be more accepting and grow its flock. You I do feel may be older and I myself is as well. The younger peoples views are changing and the Church will move slow but in time well. Or she will lose and not grow in membership. There views toward women as well. However; I agree the Church moves very slow. This pope has been the most open and caring pope we have seen I feel in my life time. Good Day

 

[dshix]

We can agree to disagree. As I stated not the message coming from my Catholic Church or Father. However; I understand you hold to very old tight old rules of the Bible. If we followed all of them we would be stoning some to death still. Enough said on this. You do understand that the marriage laws will not change it is now the law of the land. Even in Ireland my home country that is VERY Catholic. The Church is changing. The pope has just made a change toward divorce that was a old held view. So you will see change as the Church try’s to be more accepting and grow its flock. You I do feel may be older and I myself is as well. The younger peoples views are changing and the Church will move slow but in time well. Or she will lose and not grow in membership. There views toward women as well. However; I agree the Church moves very slow. This pope has been the most open and caring pope we have seen I feel in my life time. Good Day

I’m sorry, but you are very much mistaken about the Church. I have said nothing about the “old laws”; rather, I have always referred to the CURRENT dogmatic teaching of the Church, which has not changed for 2000 years and will never change unto the end of time. The Church is not bound to be more “accepting” of the world’s sin; rather the Church is called to charitably and carefully bring the world to Christ.

In any case, I don’t think you and I should say any more on this matter because it is not the subject of the thread. The moderator will delete our posts if we continue off-topic. Please resume the thread topic.

 

[johnnypdx]

I agree. I am on my way to mass. I plan on talking with my Father there about your post and views. To get his (name removed by moderator)ut. I also see that when asked about gays our pope said “Who am I to Judge”…God will Judge not me nor you. One point I was taken back by was that it almost seemed that you feel to get to heaven by way of Jesus then it must be the Catholic Church? So are you saying that Jesus only agrees with this Church and not others? Are you saying that other Christin Church’s are not of value to Jesus? I hope you are not. ou understand that there are other Church’s that have accepted gays into their Church. So are they less holy? Have a Good Sunday I am off to Church.

 

[MarcoPolo]

FYI, still haven’t heard back from the authors…have now contacted them 3 times to date.

So I read this 10 page article, and there are a number of questions that came to mind when considering the article’s content and the way in which it is marketed. So I emailed the authors, Jimi Adams and Ryan Light, the following questions. So far, I have sent them 2 emails, one on July 2, 2015 and one on July 9. I have not heard back as of this post.

Anyway, these are the questions I posited to them:

1. 
   *]Does your study confront the following question: Regarding the different types of “family/parental configurations,” how do children raised from birth through adulthood by their mothers and fathers in a lasting marriage compare to children raised outside that arrangement? If your study does not confront this question, please respond as such. If it does, please provide the answer.
   *] The article references children raised “by same-sex parents” as compared to children raised in “other family configurations,” (1.a) elsewhere referred to as “other parental configurations.” (7.a) What are all the different “family/parental configurations” to which children raised in same-sex parents show “no difference”?
   *] What are the specific categories in mind to which the “no differences” phrase throughout the article references?
   *] Could you elaborate on the nature of consensus, which is described in seemingly contradictory senses at different points in your study. For instance, the article describes consensus as “a type of closure…when boundaries around a contentious issue are resolved or enclosed around one correct answer” (1.e.) versus later in the article which says “the state of consensus is subject to change” (2.a.) and “Consensus’] … state at any given point in time should be seen as a cross-sectional snapshot of a process that unfolds over time” and that “any current state that arose from a temporal process can be altered in the future.” (6.a)
   *] The article, in 5.1.d, identifies periods in consensus that correspond to political events, such as “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” or The Defense of Marriage Act. What confirmation can you offer that the presence of “consensus” in your topic is based on the scientific method and not, for example, systemic corruption at the political, industrial, or academic level? At one point, your study acknowledged this phenomenon when referencing how “the tobacco industry’s involvement in delayed the production and dissemination of knowledge…” (6.e) Was the methodology of each of the 19,000+ papers scrutinized for neutrality, and if so, what was the criteria to make that determination?
   *] The article, in 6.d, criticizes the 2012 Regnerus study for not “relying on the work that directly engages the question they seek to answer.” Beyond keyword searching “same sex or homosexual or gay or lesbian” and “parent” and filtering out uncited papers, how did your study confirm each of the 19,000+ papers “directly engages the question” you seek to answer?
   *] In that same paragraph, the article also criticizes the Regnerus study for “forc[ing] several sources in the supportive literature to cite them,” which resulted in “inflated…importance” of Regnerus’ claims. How did your study filter out the potentiality of any other study similarly altering your sample of 19,000+ papers?
   *] Multiple times, your study cited the concept of “consensus” with regard to studies on the “carcinogenicity of smoking.” (6.e.) How is consensus achieved with regard to biological and physical science comparable to consensus achieved with regard to social science?

 

[Bradski]

Bradski:

Like all those who criticized the University of Texas study without reading it?

Are you talking about the Regenerus study? Seriously?

‘The study looked a nationally representative sample of 2,988 people ages 18 to 39… none of those whose fathers had had a same-sex relationship lived full time with their fathers through childhood… Just three of those who had lesbian mothers lived out their entire childhood with that parent, Dr. Regnerus said.’ nytimes.com/2012/06/12/health/study-examines-effect-of-having-a-gay-parent.html?_r=1

Three! Read it again. Three!

Even Regenerus himself admits the study was flawed:

‘Dr. Regnerus said that the study did not include the number, or variety, of people with a gay parent that he would have liked’.

I think that from your point of view, the less people who have read it, the better. You can dust it up as much as you like then and no-one will contradict you.

You do know who sponsored the study, don’t you…?