Regarding a Destructive Marriage & Evil Spirits

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Lady_Love said:
I believe in possession. Someone very close to me was abused and she said his eyes had a “look” and looked possessed. I saw the “look” she was talking about and I would have to agree. I also know about the “dark shadow.”

She definitely needs to get herself and children away from Him but I also know from experience it is hard to “expose” your family like that. Especially, when you know the person well and know that what is being manifested is NOT your loved one.

You said she used to be a Catholic talk to her about seeing an exorcist, even if it is only for advice and discernment.

I believe the story because it is eerily familiar.
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:idea: Wow… I am truly more concerned now, considering that it may be what we both suspected… I spoke with her earlier today & she said she had a “good talk” with her husband about this situation they’re both facing… but I don’t think she ought to trust him that much, I mean once a complete possession takes place… it might be very destructive & she might not be able to fight it off on her own… I can’t force hr to leave him (since it’s ultimately her choice) but I will continue to support her & maybe this situation doesn’t get worse… seems like all I can do for her as of now is pray… :(:signofcross:
 
Hokomai said:
You describe a woman being raped. She needs support to report her rapist to the police.
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I personally have seen a case, where the police went to the house of the so- called “rapist husband”, smashed the door, endangered his life with guns, beat him up and put him into prison. After 6 months, his wife wanted him back. She wanted to forgive him for all he had done to her, but the police so ill- treated him that his heart was even harder than before. After the court hearing, he hanged himself, maybe out of shame and not being able to manage his own pride for asking forgiveness. They had three children.

The police uses violence as their weapon.

Catholics don’t use violence, but a brain, love, forgiveness and our good Lords divine providence of people, who will support the family with prayer and whatever else is needed.

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind (Mahatma Ghandi)
 
Demonic possession is only pronounced by the Church after those subject to it undergo intensive psychological evaluation. No diocese will authorize an exorcism without such an investigation.

The immediate situation is that your friend is being brutally violated by her husband. This is a potentially lethal situation. She needs to get to a safe place, and that would not be her mother’s home. It would have to be a domestic violence shelter where there are trained security professionals.

Whatever is precipitating her husband’s behavior is immaterial at this point. She is obligated by the Church to ensure her own safety, and that of any children involved. The cause (psychologic versus demonic) can be sorted out later.
 
andreashofer said:
I personally have seen a case, where the police went to the house of the so- called “rapist husband”, smashed the door, endangered his life with guns, beat him up and put him into prison. After 6 months, his wife wanted him back. She wanted to forgive him for all he had done to her, but the police so ill- treated him that his heart was even harder than before. After the court hearing, he hanged himself, maybe out of shame and not being able to manage his own pride for asking forgiveness. They had three children.

The police uses violence as their weapon.

Catholics don’t use violence, but a brain, love, forgiveness and our good Lords divine providence of people, who will support the family with prayer and whatever else is needed.

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind (Mahatma Ghandi)
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:hmmm: You have a good point Andrea…
 
odile53 said:
Demonic possession is only pronounced by the Church after those subject to it undergo intensive psychological evaluation. No diocese will authorize an exorcism without such an investigation.

The immediate situation is that your friend is being brutally violated by her husband. This is a potentially lethal situation. She needs to get to a safe place, and that would not be her mother’s home. It would have to be a domestic violence shelter where there are trained security professionals.

Whatever is precipitating her husband’s behavior is immaterial at this point. She is obligated by the Church to ensure her own safety, and that of any children involved. The cause (psychologic versus demonic) can be sorted out later.
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:shrug:She doesn’t seem to want to leave him…it’s as if she want’s to help him… I don’t know…:ehh:
 
This is scary, but we should know that nothing is a match for the power of Christ. This is a time for your friend to return to the Church, find the diocesean exorcist and make use of the Church’s sacramentals. Others have mentioned practical advice about temporarily moving out of the house with her children, and I would think a priest/church might be able to help with that.
 
Seriously. There is more you can do than pray. You can report this to the police. They’ll interview her or at least try to do so. You can call up a battered women’s shelter and tell them the situation.

You can’t make her leave but you can dial up the pressure on her to make a decision to save herself. You seem more interested in the prospect of a demonic possession than in taking practical steps to save the lives and souls of everyone involved. If there’s actual rape going on, that guy needs to be in prison. And he needs to be in prison not just to protect his family but for himself so he is physically removed from the situation and not able to commit such atrocities.

More and more it does indeed sound like a troll thread. Why would you toss in a bunch of smiley figures in a situation as serious as rape?
 
The_Bucket said:
Seriously. There is more you can do than pray. You can report this to the police. They’ll interview her or at least try to do so. You can call up a battered women’s shelter and tell them the situation.

More and more it does indeed sound like a troll thread. Why would you toss in a bunch of smiley figures in a situation as serious as rape?
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Me thinks you are right! Yesterday afternoon, I asked the OP if she had called the shelter and what they said. No answer.
 
aicirt said:
Me thinks you are right! Yesterday afternoon, I asked the OP if she had called the shelter and what they said. No answer.
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I think this is a troll too. I am going to unsubscribe from this thread. It seems very odd and “set-up” to me.
 
Serap said:
Not sure why you keep ignoring my point.

WHAT IF HE RAPES HIS CHILDREN??? THEY ARE IN DANGER.
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:dts: I’ve tried to help her (and she recognizes that possibility too) but there is only so much I can do… I’m annoyed by such assumptions that you people make… and using “smiley faces” isn’t meant to contradict what I am stating… but please do UNSUBSCRIBE if you have nothing better or positive to say. :slapfight:
 
The_Bucket said:
Seriously. There is more you can do than pray. You can report this to the police. They’ll interview her or at least try to do so. You can call up a battered women’s shelter and tell them the situation.

You can’t make her leave but you can dial up the pressure on her to make a decision to save herself. You seem more interested in the prospect of a demonic possession than in taking practical steps to save the lives and souls of everyone involved. If there’s actual rape going on, that guy needs to be in prison. And he needs to be in prison not just to protect his family but for himself so he is physically removed from the situation and not able to commit such atrocities.

More and more it does indeed sound like a troll thread. Why would you toss in a bunch of smiley figures in a situation as serious as rape?
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:banghead:I can’t make HER decisions for HER (she IS a GROWN woman) it’s her kids that I am worried about, but if they don’t worry her… then I don’t see why I should PUSH the situation any farther, I have my own problems… and I came on this site asking for advice, not to be HAMMERED and critizied by a bunch of “catholic-appearing-I’m-too-good-for-my-own-good-hypocrite-self”…maybe yall haven’t been reading & studing the word very well because in passing judgement on others you are ALSO condeming yourselves… get off my thread with that B.S. I can’t believe how cannaving you so called Christians can be… online!!! I can’t imagine in person…SMH :mad::takethat:
 
mi6vida9loca said:
:frighten: My best friend of 12 years has been having very serious marital problems with her husband of 10 years who is indeed a porn addict. She states that this past year alone has been the worst of all the years they’ve been married because his sexual fantasies has spiraled out of control… he forces her to have sex with him in a despicable manner & ways she refuses to do so, and when she refuses, he hits her or rapes her regardless. She’s confessed to me that she fears for her safety & possibly even her life because it’s as if he’s possessed by something or someone when he’s acting this violent way towards her. She has even told me that she’s seen a “black shadow” roaming in her small two bedroom house, and she cannot explain it. She has two young children of seven and three years old who she fears for as well… especially when her husband treats her in such a manner. She used to be Catholic and now she’s a practicing “Episcopal”… She’s questioned her husband of why he acts the way he does with her when he’s calm and he tells her that he doesn’t know what comes over him… besides this “burning sensation in the pit of his stomach”… and a few days ago she felt this “burning sensation” in her bedroom when she was trying to fall asleep after her husband left for work in early hours of the morning. She described it as it beginning at her feet and working it’s way up towards her head… she was very much scared… I don’t know what to do to help her or her situation… I believe evil forces exist… she does too… what can I do to comfort her or help her? (Besides Praying) :confused:
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You asked what you can do to help a friend that’s being sexually assaulted by her husband in a despicable manner ( I would imagine that includes sexual acts against nature- sodomy, etc) and she fears for her children’s safety, too. You have been told by all but a naive member that has posted here to get her to safety immediately and have the police intervene. In fact, that’s what you’ve been told on both the threads you’ve posted this question. Each time you respond, it appears that you don’t see the seriousness of what is happening, acting rather nonchalantly about the whole thing. I realize you are in an awkward position, but seriously, you came onto the forum, ask for advice, and then you don’t seem to follow it. Not reporting this crime is ignoring it. Of course, she wants to work things out with her husband. They all say “but I love him” through a busted and bleeding mouth. You are doing her NO favors by ignoring the crimes being committed. Get her and her mom (and the children) together (have your spouse or someone else keep an eye on the kids in another room) and get a plan together! She or her children are going to end up seriously hurt (sounds like she already has been) or even worse, murdered by their father, in the sort of depraved rage he has. For the love of God, quit arguing back with people on here and help your friend before it’s too late!!
 
Place an open bible in the main room of the house. Sprinkle holy water on the bed.
 
mi6vida9loca said:
:banghead:I can’t make HER decisions for HER (she IS a GROWN woman) it’s her kids that I am worried about, but if they don’t worry her… then I don’t see why I should PUSH the situation any farther, I have my own problems… and I came on this site asking for advice, not to be HAMMERED and critizied by a bunch of “catholic-appearing-I’m-too-good-for-my-own-good-hypocrite-self”…maybe yall haven’t been reading & studing the word very well because in passing judgement on others you are ALSO condeming yourselves… get off my thread with that B.S. I can’t believe how cannaving you so called Christians can be… online!!! I can’t imagine in person…SMH :mad::takethat:
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Yes. The police will not respond to the concerns of a third party calling in a non-emergency situation. You cannot take her to a shelter or other place for help. She has to want to go.

The best thing that you can do is pray for your friend, her husband, and the children. Secondly, do what you are doing. Be there when she needs someone to talk with. Your prayers may be the most help that she receives. Prayers are very powerful and we can trust that God knows best. Have you tried any novenas? The express novena, used daily has a powerful effect. Trust that her spiritual mother will oversee the situation and provide the best outcome.
 
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