Regarding Rape

[TLM08]

Suppose a woman is being raped and as ejaculation nears, the rapist out of his last remaining drop of compassion decides not to run the risk of impregnanting his already terrified victim so he withdraws and ejaculates elsewhere. Did he compound his sin? According to church authorities, God killed Onan for ejaculating on the ground.

 

[mesurman]

Your question/hypothesis begs the question: What the heck are you smoking.

 

[thistle]

Suppose a woman is being raped and as ejaculation nears, the rapist out of his last remaining drop of compassion decides not to run the risk of impregnanting his already terrified victim so he withdraws and ejaculates elsewhere. Did he compound his sin? According to church authorities, God killed Onan for ejaculating on the ground.

Frankly, that’s a stupid question!

 

[FightingFat]

Your question/hypothesis begs the question: What the heck are you smoking.

Some pretty powerful stuff I’m thinking!

 

[Biblioassistant]

I’m sorry, but that is the stupidest question I have ever seen in my life.
So if a man decides to stab someone, and then, having a crisis of conscious exchanges his K-Bar for a pen knife is his sin lessened? Who cares?

 

[fix]

Suppose a woman is being raped and as ejaculation nears, the rapist out of his last remaining drop of compassion decides not to run the risk of impregnanting his already terrified victim so he withdraws and ejaculates elsewhere. Did he compound his sin? According to church authorities, God killed Onan for ejaculating on the ground.

Contraception involves consentual sex. If it is forced there is no sin of contraception because there was no consent.

 

[TLM08]

I’m sorry, but that is the stupidest question I have ever seen in my life.
So if a man decides to stab someone, and then, having a crisis of conscious exchanges his K-Bar for a pen knife is his sin lessened? Who cares?

Think man! Use your head. Church authorities take the issue of ejaculation very seriously. Scripture’s interesting passage on rape is also quite puzzling.

“If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.”
Deuteronomy 22:28-29

Also…Your reply has nothing to do with the question which is legitimate. Did God kill Onan for not ejaculating into his sister-in-law? I am not making a judgement call, I am only asking a question. Do you have anything to contribute?

 

[TLM08]

Contraception involves consentual sex. If it is forced there is no sin of contraception because there was no consent.

Contraception is by definition contrary to conception. Hence: contra-ception. This has nothing to do with consent.

 

[fix]

Contraception is by definition contrary to conception. Hence: contra-ception. This has nothing to do with consent.

The sin of contraception involves a conjugal act. That means consent.

There is no conjugal act when one is assaulting another.

 

[PaulinVA]

TLM, it’s a stupid question because he’s just raped someone.

That’s enough to be mortal, isn’t it? Well, then, whether he additionally beats her, or steals her car, or whatever, is just additional sin on top of sin.

I don’t think it matters where he completes the act. God, and the Church, has never said that if you are raping someone, you must finish the act in the way that would be proper for a married person.

Now, if you wanted to have a discussion about whether the rapist is morally obligated, in some sick way, to ensure he doesn’t make the woman pregnant, I might see that as interesting. But, it’s still sin on top of sin.

 

[Newbie2]

I’m sorry, but that is the stupidest question I have ever seen in my life.
So if a man decides to stab someone, and then, having a crisis of conscious exchanges his K-Bar for a pen knife is his sin lessened? Who cares?

Well, you cared enough to reply.

But seriously, the answer is no, the rapist does not compound his sin. He has no business concepting with the victim in the first place.

An interesting question would be does the same apply to the same degree if a husband has…less than consensual sex with his wife. My guess would be yes, as rape is possible within a marriage.

It’s difficult to imagine that the Almighty would be offended by a rapist doing so…after all, his intent was for Onan to sire offspring, and it’s doubtful that he would desire the same for a rape victim.

 

[theistgal]

He’s already committing several mortal sins. Mitigating one of them won’t shorten his time in Hell, if his terrified victim manages to take advantage of his momentary distraction and reach the gun she’s got hidden in her purse.

 

[manualman]

Contraception is sinful because is does a violence to the Divinely created link between the unitive nature of married sex and the procreative nature of married sex.

Rape is not fundamentally about sex. It is a violent domination of another, the sick pleasure gotten is derived from the domination, not the sex. There quite simply is neither a unitive nor a procreative aspect of sexuality at work here so the gravely sinful act of rape stands alone unaffected by the withdrawal. And if he has fooled his conscience into believing he is a good guy for not impregnating her, he’s a sociopath.

You need to understand Church teaching on sin not as an action on a list of the forbidden and more as the O&M manual for the human body and soul.

 

[Blade_and_Blood]

Suppose a woman is being raped and as ejaculation nears, the rapist out of his last remaining drop of compassion decides not to run the risk of impregnanting his already terrified victim so he withdraws and ejaculates elsewhere. Did he compound his sin? According to church authorities, God killed Onan for ejaculating on the ground.

You know what? I’d like to give you a “Richard Dawkins” answer: Yes. Technically, it’s even a sin to resist rape, unless you want to die instead. My saint name is Maria Goretti; she was almost raped, yet she resisted and instead was stabbed to death… she became a saint for that.

My answer: I would most certainly hope not, but I can’t confirm anything because that sounds like an “Old Testament” concept, where the rapist would have to take his victim as his wife, now that he’s “deflowered” her.

I hope that helps… I think.

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood

 

[jmcrae]

Suppose a woman is being raped and as ejaculation nears, the rapist out of his last remaining drop of compassion decides not to run the risk of impregnanting his already terrified victim so he withdraws and ejaculates elsewhere. Did he compound his sin? According to church authorities, God killed Onan for ejaculating on the ground.

Both rape and masturbation (which is what losing his seed on the ground amounts to) are disordered behaviour, and mortal sins. It can certainly be argued that rape isn’t a kind of sex; rather, it’s a kind of violence, which stands to reason because sex is a sharing of physical bonding, which rape obviously is not.

He shouldn’t do either one, and he isn’t going to get a medal of honour from God for not risking getting his victim pregnant. He’s going straight to Hell no matter what he does.

Victims certainly have the right to resist rape; after all, it has nothing to do with the marital bond. If she can kill him, she is justified, on the grounds of self-defense.

 

[Jennifer_J]

He’s going straight to Hell no matter what he does.

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Picky, picky, picky, but the rapist would only go straight to Hell if he were unrepentant at the time of death. There is hope of salvation for all…

 

[LittleDeb]

Contraception is sinful because is does a violence to the Divinely created link between the unitive nature of married sex and the procreative nature of married sex.

Rape is not fundamentally about sex. It is a violent domination of another, the sick pleasure gotten is derived from the domination, not the sex. There quite simply is neither a unitive nor a procreative aspect of sexuality at work here so the gravely sinful act of rape stands alone unaffected by the withdrawal. And if he has fooled his conscience into believing he is a good guy for not impregnating her, he’s a sociopath.

You need to understand Church teaching on sin not as an action on a list of the forbidden and more as the O&M manual for the human body and soul.

Another excellent answer by manualman!

 

[thistle]

You know what? I’d like to give you a “Richard Dawkins” answer: Yes. Technically, it’s even a sin to resist rape, unless you want to die instead. My saint name is Maria Goretti; she was almost raped, yet she resisted and instead was stabbed to death… she became a saint for that.

My answer: I would most certainly hope not, but I can’t confirm anything because that sounds like an “Old Testament” concept, where the rapist would have to take his victim as his wife, now that he’s “deflowered” her.

I hope that helps… I think.

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood

That is simply a lie. Show us where the Church teaches that.

 

[mesurman]

That is simply a lie. Show us where the Church teaches that.

Maria Goretti became a Saint because she forgave the young man before she died. A true model for us all. True forgiveness is sometimes very difficult, but Maria Goretti forgave in an instant, remarkable.

Also the original post is stupid, he is trolling.

 

[Eggnotz]

I have zero patience for questions like this. I’ll just shut up and let nicer people respond.