Regarding the last times

[Monica4316]

I was kind of wondering today if we’ll live to see the last times talked about in the Bible. I don’t mean the Second Coming necessarily, but maybe the antichrist, the “tribulation”, etc. I know these are private revelations and we don’t know for sure about them yet, but there seem to be many prophesies sort of implying that this might begin to happen soon, though our prayers can help greatly. The more people turn to God, the less difficult it would be then.

Now I try to be careful with these things and I don’t believe everything I read, but for some reason, for the past couple years I’ve felt that this time we’re living in is very dangerous spiritually, and it’s different than ever before… I try to just trust God and not worry. But I felt this way even before I read about all the private revelations etc.

And yet, when I think about my family, friends, even my dog and the innocent animals on earth, and then of all the - possible world/nuclear (?) wars, antichrist, persecutions of the Church, the mark of the beast, false prophet, someone mentioned the Pope leaving the Vatican, the Church being infiltrated by evil (though of course not overcome), maybe an antipope, very major disasters like earthquakes and volcanoes and such, and prophesies about the “three days of darkness” (if they are true), Christians having to maybe leave their homes and hide, possible martyrdom, ETC. - it just seems like soooo much. And I don’t know how can people live through all that. I also wondered, would the Mass still be said during that time. It frightens me to think of POSSIBLY living through something like this, and it REALLY frightens me to think of my family.

how do we just… have peace inside? even now, the times we live in aren’t very easy for many.

any thoughts?

 

[kesto4]

I try to just trust God and not worry.

This is the part you need to focus on. It’s all in God’s hands, you have to trust him and pray; beg for mercy for others and repent.

But yes, we are definitely in the end times. Many, many scriptures in the bible tell us this, these are the times of Noah. It’s getting worse each day and world powers are plotting each countries fate as we speak. When will this happen? we most surely do not know, but God gave us scripture to be aware and ready. I honestly believe everything will start to falter after Pope Benedict dies or whatever happens to him. A world can no longer cease to exist once you take out the morals, which are based from God.

 

[Monica4316]

I’m also kind of concerned about the time after Pope Benedict… I hope it’s not soon I mean maybe the next Pope will be good too but maybe we’ll have an antipope as well which would be confusing. It seems like Pope Benedict has a lot of enemies… and things within the Vatican are not so clear cut as would be ideal.

I have NO IDEA though. We’ll see. I have no authority at all to say what would happen.

I just don’t understand…how do we continue to live normally if such things are happening? I mean now. (not then, then it would probably be impossible to live normally). How do we simply go to work, be cheerful, spend time with family/friends… but if we don’t, then we’ll just sit around all day and worry which won’t be good either. I think spending MUCH time in prayer and going to Mass often, is very important. But what about the rest of the time, when you can’t pray cause you’re at work, etc?

I’m trying to trust God but I really have to struggle for this, I’m often afraid for my family especially, and it’s often hard to hide it all and appear normal and cheerful. I know the Saints, whatever they went through they had such peace. I sometimes have peace, like after Communion, but other times I worry so much. Maybe I need to go to daily Mass or something.

I’m just wondering if anyone else feels similarly about our times, how do you deal with it?

 

[ChrisRedfield47]

Im kinda in the same situation, adding some conspiracy theories i’ve read about which only make it worse. However, all we need to do is trust in our God and we’ll be fine i’m sure.

 

[GEddie]

Why would anybody be afraid of the end times? Don’t they know that they would die in any case? (to paraphrase CS Lewis)

I see the end times as a promise. I want to see our LORD! I want to leap into HIS arms!

And those who live through the final times will even escape bodily death. It don’t get no better!!!

Conversely, the worst that can happen to me in the end times is no worse than the natural death that I’d face anyway; and I don’t expect natural death to be any less uncomfortable.

Just keep your sacraments and penance updated, and you should be OK.

God bless and ICXC NIKA

 

[Monica4316]

Thanks for the replies… I agree that we shouldn’t fear if we’re in a state of grace. But I’m also afraid for those I know who are away from the Sacraments.

I read about some prophesies also about a nuclear war… honestly I dont know if that would happen but that sounds really bad too

 

[Dorothy]

St. Therese of Lisieux teaches us “the little way of love and self-surrender.”

So whether we are praying, working, studying, being with friends, we should offer all up to the Lord with gratitude.

Our anxiety cannot add one thing to our prayers, it can only cause us to trust God less. Trust Him that He will work in the lives of your loved ones. I know sometimes it is hard, but it works.

 

[Monica4316]

Dorothy, thank you for the reply… I guess I got worried because I read so much of this information, and it was talking about a nuclear war, and we live near a big city. But my family disagrees with moving anywhere. And then I get worried for my family. I mean, who knows that information could be correct. I think I really need to pray to have peace inside.

 

[Dorothy]

Dorothy, thank you for the reply… I guess I got worried because I read so much of this information, and it was talking about a nuclear war, and we live near a big city. But my family disagrees with moving anywhere. And then I get worried for my family. I mean, who knows that information could be correct. I think I really need to pray to have peace inside.

And, even if the information turns out to be “correct”, all we have to do is trust the Lord.

Maybe you have heard of this story…one monk asks another monk, “If you knew the world was going to end tomorrow what would you do?” He answered…“I’d plant a tree.”

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

I don’t think we should worry too much because these things are not under our control anyway. As others said, sacraments and being in state of grace is the way, each day at a time. I think that whenever we face some difficulty God will give us courage and help us get through it if we ask Him to. So if it comes to all the above, I’m confident He will be with us and help us.
Overthinking it doesn’t help because, as with so many things, we are not able to deal with it on our own and must rely on God.

However, it seems that your family is your greatest worry. I worry about my family too and I understand the fear that they might be lost forever. Pray for them, live your faith and be a good example. These things are important and make an impact, more than perhaps you are aware. Pray the Divine Mercy chaplet for their conversion and put them in God’s hands.

 

[John_Russell_Jr]

I was kind of wondering today if we’ll live to see the last times talked about in the Bible. I don’t mean the Second Coming necessarily, but maybe the antichrist, the “tribulation”, etc. I know these are private revelations and we don’t know for sure about them yet, but there seem to be many prophesies sort of implying that this might begin to happen soon, though our prayers can help greatly. The more people turn to God, the less difficult it would be then.

Now I try to be careful with these things and I don’t believe everything I read, but for some reason, for the past couple years I’ve felt that this time we’re living in is very dangerous spiritually, and it’s different than ever before… I try to just trust God and not worry. But I felt this way even before I read about all the private revelations etc.

And yet, when I think about my family, friends, even my dog and the innocent animals on earth, and then of all the - possible world/nuclear (?) wars, antichrist, persecutions of the Church, the mark of the beast, false prophet, someone mentioned the Pope leaving the Vatican, the Church being infiltrated by evil (though of course not overcome), maybe an antipope, very major disasters like earthquakes and volcanoes and such, and prophesies about the “three days of darkness” (if they are true), Christians having to maybe leave their homes and hide, possible martyrdom, ETC. - it just seems like soooo much. And I don’t know how can people live through all that. I also wondered, would the Mass still be said during that time. It frightens me to think of POSSIBLY living through something like this, and it REALLY frightens me to think of my family.

how do we just… have peace inside? even now, the times we live in aren’t very easy for many.

any thoughts?

… dear monica ,

… a quick observation : it is a very important topic and article of faith all this and it is satan that has soured all on cnversing about it , this discussion has extreme legitimate relevance in the church and especially today , i personally think the end may only be decades away myself , i suspect i know who the official antichrist is too and he is recruiting right now openly , he claims to be descended from king david and mohommad , is he going to claim to be the jews messiah ??? , one of the early fathers said the ac would rebuild the jews great temple and i think tis is the guy , the name of him whilst the spelling may be off is mattreija he is / will claim to be the one every religion or faith has been waiting for openly or secretly – i’m sure he’s the one , satan has lined up the whole world theu all human history for this man i’m afraid , he has a www you can check out , like i say satan has worked furiously to sour all and the whole church on this subject so expect very little support if you bring it up , the devil and his ac will have massively more success the ore ignorant christiand choose to remain and the longer they stay that way , this is my personal opine dear friend ,

… may god bless and love you ,

… john …

 

[Holly3278]

I do believe we are living in the end times. I believe the Second Coming of Jesus Christ can’t be far off. I honestly believe it will happen in my life time. Of course, I could be wrong too. However, we all need to have faith, hope, and trust in God. We need to try not to worry. As the Bible says, worry can add nothing to your life.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Now I try to be careful with these things and I don’t believe everything I read, but for some reason, for the past couple years I’ve felt that this time we’re living in is very dangerous spiritually, and it’s different than ever before… I try to just trust God and not worry. But I felt this way even before I read about all the private revelations etc.

Here’s some food for thought. Instead of reading that stuff, why not actually spend some time reading history? I’m not even going to suggest something advanced. Just take maybe a small class or take some time reading up the history of a particular nation like the ones in Europe (England, France, Germany) or Asia (Japan, China, India). I doubt you’ll still cling to the belief that our time is more spiritually or morally defunct than the previous generations.

 

[Holly3278]

Here’s some food for thought. Instead of reading that stuff, why not actually spend some time reading history? I’m not even going to suggest something advanced. Just take maybe a small class or take some time reading up the history of a particular nation like the ones in Europe (England, France, Germany) or Asia (Japan, China, India). I doubt you’ll still cling to the belief that our time is more spiritually or morally defunct than the previous generations.

To be honest with you, I don’t know if our time is any more spiritually or morally worse off than previous generations or not. However, has any other previous generation had to deal with abortion or gay “marriage” on such a large scale? I don’t think they have.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

However, has any other previous generation had to deal with abortion or gay “marriage” on such a large scale? I don’t think they have.

You’ve never read much of either Greek or Roman history have you?

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

Here’s some food for thought. Instead of reading that stuff, why not actually spend some time reading history? I’m not even going to suggest something advanced. Just take maybe a small class or take some time reading up the history of a particular nation like the ones in Europe (England, France, Germany) or Asia (Japan, China, India). I doubt you’ll still cling to the belief that our time is more spiritually or morally defunct than the previous generations.

I think this is excellent advice. For some reason people often think that these days are more difficult, more degenerate and thus closer to the end of times. Many idealise the past as somehow being better and more pure. Every age and culture had its perversions and its atrocities. We are no different today.

 

[John_Russell_Jr]

I think this is excellent advice. For some reason people often think that these days are more difficult, more degenerate and thus closer to the end of times. Many idealise the past as somehow being better and more pure. Every age and culture had its perversions and its atrocities. We are no different today.

… my dear friend ,

… who says these times are not the end times infallibly ??? , who says all that has isd happening is not the last days end times ??? , who even says anything in these scenarios must be emotely like any human being thinks ??? , maybe jesus has will return to help the church in these times ??? , these times are by far the worst in history and it is approaching that if god does not intervene man will destroy himself let alone the antichhrist , don’t be such a cynic dear friend , the long awaited official antichrist is here recruiting , i’ve mentioned who i think he is , there’s been none like him before , he is the one every single religion or faith both good or evil has been waiting for , he is well underway recruiting and getting organisd , look into him if you want and i can tell you a thing or 2 , every religion good or evil is awaiting some great man or deity and he fills the bill , satan has the world ripe for him , don’t be quick to dismiss the op as she’s right i think you’ll find , everything is happening as it should for the last days end times for a god while now , it is all unfolding dear friend , open your eyes a bit wider ,

… may god bless and love you ,

… john …

 

[Monica4316]

Here’s some food for thought. Instead of reading that stuff, why not actually spend some time reading history? I’m not even going to suggest something advanced. Just take maybe a small class or take some time reading up the history of a particular nation like the ones in Europe (England, France, Germany) or Asia (Japan, China, India). I doubt you’ll still cling to the belief that our time is more spiritually or morally defunct than the previous generations.

I have studied history… I do think our time is more corrupt but on a more hidden scale… it’s all hidden in the background. (although we can see a lot of it too). It’s also more widespread.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

I have studied history… I do think our time is more corrupt but on a more hidden scale… it’s all hidden in the background. (although we can see a lot of it too). It’s also more widespread.

Really? Widespread? Please explain how our current state of affairs is more degenerate than, for instance, when pagan empires like Persia or Babylon ran their parts of the world? People thought the end-times were near too when Hitler rose to power and they started calling him the anti-Christ.

I feel I must caution you. To say things such as ‘corrupt but on a more hidden scale’ sounds like conspiracy theorist rhetoric. This is why I think it best you start studying history where there’s more fact than speculation.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

I think this is excellent advice. For some reason people often think that these days are more difficult, more degenerate and thus closer to the end of times. Many idealise the past as somehow being better and more pure. Every age and culture had its perversions and its atrocities. We are no different today.

I personally regard such people with great distaste. I especially dislike the ones who see the so-called Middle Ages of “Christianized” Europe through rose-tinted glasses. Even my Catholic Theology text book boldly declares the degeneration of times such as the period of the Black Death as well as the less admirable side of the Crusades.