Relations between catholic and non-catholic

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I think i have just read on another thread that if a non-catholic becomes a catholic and is married to a non-catholic, if he/she continues to have marital relations with the spouse who is non-catholic, the catholic is commiting a grave sin. Is this true?? Think of the implications!! How many in parishes who have mixed marriages are living in a state of mortal sin just because they want to show their spouse love by making love to them? Honestly, that throws a huge monkey wrench in my decision whether to become catholic or not. My wife will never convert, and I cannot with-hold relations with her just because it goes against Church teaching. This is indeed a sticky situation.
 
(I think it is valid, and therefore a marriage, but may be wrong, hear the researches (added 4th edit) (canon lawyer good, not one , too tired to view my books, as a layman), but ask a priest, here is the post (once made, not posted before research, edited afterwards, before intro added:cool: )

before I moan about things, as I did before my research, please also consult a canon lawyer, priest, or apologist (In this forums is good):

firstly, you can get a blessing of the marriage, a disparity of cult, dispensation by the local bishop, which will make it legal (Non-catholic and non-catholic, may actually be different from what you heard)

as to normal marriage

"Q: When is marriage a sacrament?

A: The Code of Canon Law recognizes that, “a valid matrimonial contract cannot exist between the baptized without it being by that fact a sacrament” (CIC 1055 §2). So there are two requirements for a marriage to be a sacramental marriage: (1) the marriage must be valid; and (2) both parties must be baptized.

To be in a valid marriage, Catholics must meet certain requirements of canon law including the obligation to observe the Church’s form of marriage celebration or to be dispensed from that form. This applies to every Catholic, even when marrying a non-Catholic.

All valid marriages between Catholics are sacramental because you can’t be Catholic without being baptized. However, a valid marriage between a Catholic and a baptized non-Catholic is sacramental, while a valid marriage between a Catholic and a non-baptized person is not.

Non-Catholics are not generally under the authority of canon law concerning marriage, so marriages between non-Catholics are generally recognized to be valid unless proven otherwise. Some of these marriages are sacramental (when both parties are baptized) and some are not (when one or both are not baptized).
—Jim Blackburn "
catholic.com/thisrock/2008/0801qq.asp

then

Firstly- “The way is narrow, few find the way to life”

secondly, I think your facts are wrong, but get the communion blessed (If a catholic is married outside= not married, but you weren’t Catholic, but ask the apologist, I’d be interested to hear it), keep us posted, but remember-

Matthew chapter 10

"34 Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. 35 For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. "
newadvent.org/bible/mat010.htm#34

and again

Matthew chapter 10

“37 He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not up his cross, and followeth me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for me, shall find it. 40 He that receiveth you, receiveth me: and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive the reward of a prophet: and he that receiveth a just man in the name of a just man, shall receive the reward of a just man. 42 And whosoever shall give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, amen I say to you he shall not lose his reward.”

newadvent.org/bible/mat010.htm#37

your choice is what it is worth to be Catholic, otherwise, if not, then rather give up now ( personally, I’d be on the phone to the priest, asking what the facts are)- it is not easy to obey God, but I think your stats are incorrect, if married before, but check it up, and know- it is not the church who choses if you obey, but you who are to become of the church, by obeying whatever it preaches infallibly.

Marc (also added afterward)
 
(I think it is valid, and therefore a marriage, but may be wrong, hear the researches (added 4th edit) (canon lawyer good, not one , too tired to view my books, as a layman), but ask a priest, here is the post (once made, not posted before research, edited afterwards, before intro added:cool: )

before I moan about things, as I did before my research, please also consult a canon lawyer, priest, or apologist (In this forums is good):

firstly, you can get a blessing of the marriage, a disparity of cult, dispensation by the local bishop, which will make it legal (Non-catholic and non-catholic, may actually be different from what you heard)

as to normal marriage

"Q: When is marriage a sacrament?

A: The Code of Canon Law recognizes that, “a valid matrimonial contract cannot exist between the baptized without it being by that fact a sacrament” (CIC 1055 §2). So there are two requirements for a marriage to be a sacramental marriage: (1) the marriage must be valid; and (2) both parties must be baptized.

To be in a valid marriage, Catholics must meet certain requirements of canon law including the obligation to observe the Church’s form of marriage celebration or to be dispensed from that form. This applies to every Catholic, even when marrying a non-Catholic.

All valid marriages between Catholics are sacramental because you can’t be Catholic without being baptized. However, a valid marriage between a Catholic and a baptized non-Catholic is sacramental, while a valid marriage between a Catholic and a non-baptized person is not.

Non-Catholics are not generally under the authority of canon law concerning marriage, so marriages between non-Catholics are generally recognized to be valid unless proven otherwise. Some of these marriages are sacramental (when both parties are baptized) and some are not (when one or both are not baptized).
—Jim Blackburn "
catholic.com/thisrock/2008/0801qq.asp

then

Firstly- “The way is narrow, few find the way to life”

secondly, I think your facts are wrong, but get the communion blessed (If a catholic is married outside= not married, but you weren’t Catholic, but ask the apologist, I’d be interested to hear it), keep us posted, but remember-

Matthew chapter 10

"34 Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. 35 For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. "
newadvent.org/bible/mat010.htm#34

and again

Matthew chapter 10

“37 He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not up his cross, and followeth me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for me, shall find it. 40 He that receiveth you, receiveth me: and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive the reward of a prophet: and he that receiveth a just man in the name of a just man, shall receive the reward of a just man. 42 And whosoever shall give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, amen I say to you he shall not lose his reward.”

newadvent.org/bible/mat010.htm#37

your choice is what it is worth to be Catholic, otherwise, if not, then rather give up now ( personally, I’d be on the phone to the priest, asking what the facts are)- it is not easy to obey God, but I think your stats are incorrect, if married before, but check it up, and know- it is not the church who choses if you obey, but you who are to become of the church, by obeying whatever it preaches infallibly.

Marc (also added afterward)
“Right now your marriage is not considered valid by the Catholic Church and so when you have marrital relations you commit a mortal sin. Yes, abstain from intercourse until your marriage is blessed. There is no reason why this can’t be accomplished very soon. It can easily be done in a private ceremony. Your wife’s baptismal certificate is not crucial. If she had never been baptized the marriage could still be made valid. If and when her baptism is proven the marriage would then become sacramental.”

This is a post from Father Serpa in his response to a Catholic who was married to a non-catholic. It seems to me I must abstain from intercourse if I choose to become Catholic and my wife does not until I get the marriage blessed. Am I reading this correctly?
 
I think i have just read on another thread that if a non-catholic becomes a catholic and is married to a non-catholic, if he/she continues to have marital relations with the spouse who is non-catholic, the catholic is commiting a grave sin. Is this true?? .
no it is not true. if they were free to marry while they were non-Catholic, the marriage is valid and no action needs to be taken when one converts. Why not refrain from dire speculations until the facts are ascertained?

the couple in question does not need a canon lawyer nor an apologist, they simply need to discuss their person situation (without reference to the personal situation of any other couple) with the priest who is preparing the spouse for reception into the Church.

is there some reason this thread is on the traditional forum, instead of sacraments where it belongs, other than the irrelevant (in case of OP’s questions) cites from New Advent?
 
to relate the original, with the aid of scripturelink, da, da, da

“I am Catholic, my wife is Protestant. I had drifted from the Church. We were married in a Protestant church with no priest.” (yours was not drifted, it was NOT period, different canons apply i.e. he falls under penalty in cannon law, as a Latin Catholic, or perhaps any catholic, you did not at that time)
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=3939544

God bless, he was a catholic, and catholics cannot be validly married without church permission, you were not, so it is valid, God bless.

Please reply, otherwise, I’ll PM you, this is important, the circumstance related is why father said no- he was disobeying the church 🙂 ask father otherwise, link to the thread also, so he sees the conversation, but I’m almost positive that it was valid.
 
"Canon 1055
  1. The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament.
  2. For this reason a matrimonial contract cannot validly exist between baptized persons unless it is also a sacrament by that fact."
Every sign says utterly valid (As long as artificial contraception is not used- NFP is almost 100% anyway- see link) otherwise, consult a priest, as I would.

link from
ewtn.com/expert/answers/marital_consent.htm

see official source here
vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P3V.HTM
 
So in your more than just likely valid marriage- it is valid to pursue duties witrhin the context of valid married life, Please answer, so I know you know, whether PM or not, or when you find official answers, but I doubt the post applies, God bless, in my prayers.

Lux et pax tecum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Aupiais
Is marriage between two non-Catholics valid if they convert? Someone I know is worried about this. I’d say yes, but I am only a layman.
If there were no impediments to the marriage at the time of the wedding (e.g., previous marriage, close blood relationship), the marriage is presumed valid whether or not they convert. If either or both parties are not validly baptized and then are baptized, a valid marriage will become sacramental upon the baptism of both parties. (If both are already validly baptized, a valid marriage is already presumed sacramental.)
By Michael Arnold
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=254948

Thank you for keeping such good questions, All Catholics need to ask these things at places like this for others, God bless, I added this for those who read it in future, it is enough.
 
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