Relations between the three separate Churches of the East

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Hello everyone,

As a Chaldean, I am all too familiar with ethnic tensions between Chaldeans and Assyrians. Yet, there sometimes is a light with our churches cooperating and communicating to help heal these divisions. I’ve seen Patriarch Louis-Raphael’s efforts towards both the Church of the East and the Ancient Church of the East as progressive steps forwards. I don’t know how the relations are between the ACoE and its Old Calendar counterpart, but I hope that is positive as well. (I’d like some insight about that as well.)

This question is targeted towards those more familiar with each situation, but how does each church see each other? Too often, I see Chaldean clergy and laity trying to distance themselves from Assyrians as a separate ethnicity and label them as Nestorian (which they definitely are not). The opposite exists as well, with Assyrians labeling Chaldeans as Papists who have lost their traditions and renamed themselves.

Then there is the situation among the churches, the Assyrian ones that only differ by the old and new calendars, and the Catholic one. Has the situation with Mar Sarhad Jammo accepting Mar Bawai Soro and his laity negatively affected the Chaldean Church’s relations with the Assyrian Church? Does either church truly desire unity with one another while retaining (or returning to the original) customs of the Church of the East?

Please help with any recent knowledge you may have concerning this issue. Please do not cite the documents between the churches from the 1990s. Thank you.

Peace and Blessings.
 
On the side en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_I_Bidawid we can read these two statements
“I personally think that these different names serve to add confusion. The original name of our Church was the ‘Church of the East’ … When a portion of the Church of the East became Catholic, the name given was ‘Chaldean’ based on the Magi kings who came from the land of the Chaldean, to Bethlehem. The name ‘Chaldean’ does not represent an ethnicity… We have to separate what is ethnicity and what is religion… I myself, my sect is Chaldean, but ethnically, I am Assyrian.”
and
“Before I became a priest I was an Assyrian, before I became a bishop I was an Assyrian, I am an Assyrian today, tomorrow, forever, and I am proud of it.”
by HB Raphael I Bidawid. Maybe he is a “special case” but this seems to me that nationality is Assyrian and when speaking about church then there are Chaldeans (Catholic) or once more Assyrians (Assyrian / Ant. CoE).

Hm, it is not possible to abbreviate Assyrian… and later, after seeing just three * in original message, I realize why. 😛

By the way, this patriarch’s name is sometimes in the version Raphael J. Bidawid. Does anyone know what does the “j” stand for?
 
By the way, this patriarch’s name is sometimes in the version Raphael J. Bidawid. Does anyone know what does the “j” stand for?
Nestor kea,

The J. is his middle initial, which stands for Joseph, the English version of his father’s name Yousif.

When he was later elected as Patriarch, the Roman numeral I was added, since there was no previous Patriarch by the name of Raphael, so he became known as Mar Raphael I Bidawid.

God bless,

Rony
 
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