relationships with non-Catholics

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My husband is Jewish, but is not practicing his faith. I was not practicing mine either when we married. Three years after we were married I came back to the Catholic Church.

My husband wasn’t initially too happy about that, but he did agree to have our marriage convalidated. As this is a first marriage for both of us, that was a fairly easy process. Because my husband isn’t baptised we had to be granted a dispensation for disparity of cult by the Bishop, and although our marriage is valid, it is not considered to be sacramental.

As to issues in our marriage, we haven’t had any major ones. We married a bit late to have children so we don’t have to worry about child rearing. I do sometimes feel a bit lonely going to Mass by myself all the time, and I would probably be more involved with church activities if my husband was Catholic.

The only argument we have had about religion so far is that when we go on vacation he doesn’t want me to attend Mass. He says that’s our time together and he resents my desire to attend Mass. Other than that he hasn’t objected to anything, and is always willing to listen to what I have to say about religion.

My parents were also in a mixed marriage. My father was Catholic and my mother is, to the best of my knowledge, not baptized. She went to church with my father for 25 years and agreed to raise me in the Catholic faith. After my father died she never returned to church after his funeral Mass. To this day she hates the Catholic Church and was amazed that I came back to it. I don’t know if she and my father had disagreements over religion or not.

Although I haven’t had serious problems in my marriage, I would have to say it would have been easier and less stressful if I had married someone in my own faith, particularly in regards to children.
 
Hello!

A few years ago, I was in a situation similar to yours.

I was dating this really nice Protestant guy (he was a widower who had no children from Chicago) who was a patient of a colleague of mine.

He was a breath of fresh air after dating a not-so-nice Catholic guy.

He had most of what I call the **“C” qualities **I wanted:
a. Concern–One time, he wanted to brave
heavy rains, flood and a heavy traffic when I
got trapped.
b. Consistency- He was so sweet, he
kept on sending food to the clinic for me
just in case I was hungry --he even cooked
it for me.
c. Constancy- He was always concerned
about me and surprising me constantly.
**d. Character **- Even though he had been
married before, he respected me. He was
always was a gentleman, opening doors for
me, etc.

He had everything EXCEPT he wasn’t Catholic.

He was a devout Protestant as much as I was a devout Catholic and during our conversations, I realized that we were both going to stand our own ground on this very important issue.

So, when the time came for us to decide if we were ever going to move on from our status quo (after 6 months of dating) --and be officially a couple—with a heavy heart, we decided to part ways.

It just wasn’t going to work out as religion was a non-negotiable issue for both of us, and sometimes conversations about it would end up in debates (albeit, not violent ones)…so, you can imagine what would happen if I did marry him.

Some people thought I was stupid because he was almost perfect. (Actually, my parents, I think, sighed a sigh of relief, as they didn’t want me to end up with a non-Catholic).

I still pray for him as I know he was a good man.

However, I am glad, that I knew his stance on this very important issue, before things got serious, it made the regret more tolerable for me.

So, corculum, I really suggest that you take stock of what you think are issues that are important with you (hopefully, including issues about your different religions) before deciding to marry outside the Church. See where he stands, and see if these are acceptable for you.

I agree with the other posters here, that different religions can be a source of friction in families, especially when children are involved.

I would suggest that you pray for the right decision, as I believe, important decisions such as getting married are best done with a lot of prayers. 🙂
 
Well I think it is a matter of maturity.

At my own church we have a few mixed couples.
  1. Our Cantor is married to a Baptist. (way past their sixties)
  2. Our Organist is married to a Baptist ( way past their sixties)
  3. Our burse club rep " " " " "
there are a few others.

We only see these spouses at Midnight Mass.

These couples have lived very long lives as mixed couples. I think maturity and mutual respect play a big part in deciding to get married.
 
Well I think it is a matter of maturity.

At my own church we have a few mixed couples.
  1. Our Cantor is married to a Baptist. (way past their sixties)
  2. Our Organist is married to a Baptist ( way past their sixties)
  3. Our burse club rep " " " " "
there are a few others.

We only see these spouses at Midnight Mass.
What’s a “burse club rep”?
 
What’s a “burse club rep”?
A Burse is a fund established to provide the finances necessary to educate students for the priesthood. The educational requirements for candidates for the priesthood are four years of undergraduate studies in a college and four or five years of graduate studies in a school of Theology. It is rare for a candidate, even with the assistance of his family, to be able to assume the responsibility for the total expenses of his education.

The Burse Club Representative is responsible for requesting donations from parishioners.

All they ask for is 12 dollars annually. A very petty sum of money.
 
A Burse is a fund established to provide the finances necessary to educate students for the priesthood. The educational requirements for candidates for the priesthood are four years of undergraduate studies in a college and four or five years of graduate studies in a school of Theology. It is rare for a candidate, even with the assistance of his family, to be able to assume the responsibility for the total expenses of his education.

The Burse Club Representative is responsible for requesting donations from parishioners.

All they ask for is 12 dollars annually. A very petty sum of money.
Huh! I had never heard of that. Sounds like a good idea. Thanks.
 
My advice to you is to be very careful. My husband was raised RLDS (a smaller group of the Mormons that also uses the Book of Mormon), and it has been tough working out religious differences.

I was not practicing my faith much when we married, and I actually spent some time learning about his because he was more devout in his practice. I just couldn’t accept their teachings, and returned to Catholicism. He did agree that our kids would be raised Catholic, and he has spent the last couple of years learning a lot about the Church, and considering converting. He left the RLDS faith long ago, and attends Mass weekly with me. However, while we have finally worked this out, the differences in our faiths has caused a number of problems with his family. My mother-n-law is rabidly anti-Catholic, and after some scathing emails from her on the subject, our relationship with her is strained.

Both my husband and I have advised our kids that the best course for them would be to marry a practicing Catholic. Marriage is tough enough, and adding religious issues such as we’ve dealt with makes it even tougher.
 
I’ve been dating the most wonderful guy for the past three years. We’ve recently started talking about marriage and I only have one nagging concern: he’s a Mormon and I have absolutely no intention of conversion. He’s very sincere in his beliefs and it seems unlikely that he will embrace the Church. I know such marriages happen, but are they really successful? I’m confident that we could work things ourselves, but what about children? And our families? His family seems to like me now, but I fear that can change.

Any advice or insight would be appreciated. Cheers!
From what I’ve read, Christian/Mormon marriages are one of the more common interfaith marriages (I never would have guessed that). One of the first things a couple should consider doing is to research both their own and their fiance’s religion. Sometimes there are points in your own faith that you are not aware of and that may clarify things.

I have no idea whether your marriage will work out. My only adivce would be to find a lawyer and get a prenup agreement that gives you adequate protection. In a worst case scenario, you can assume that the Mormon church would finance divorce proceedings for your husband. So you want to be covered as best you can against such an eventuality. Especially if custody of children is an issue. (This is not legal advice, just a poster’s opinion).
 
My only adivce would be to find a lawyer and get a prenup agreement that gives you adequate protection.
Wouldn’t that cause the marriage to be considered invalid in the Catholic Church?

I always thought prenuptual agreements were forbidden to Catholic couples seeking marriage, because they presuppose a future divorce, which is contrary to the intention of permanency in marriage. :confused:
 
Wouldn’t that cause the marriage to be considered invalid in the Catholic Church?

I always thought prenuptual agreements were forbidden to Catholic couples seeking marriage, because they presuppose a future divorce, which is contrary to the intention of permanency in marriage. :confused:
You may be right. I have no idea. But I figured that an interfaith marriage would also be forbidden and that the cermony would not be a catholic one.

But I found this on wikipedia:

Prenuptial agreements are a matter of civil law, so Catholic canon law does not rule them out in principle (for example, to determine how property would be divided among the children of a prior marriage upon the death of one spouse).

In practice, prenuptials may run afoul of Church law in a number of ways. For example, they cannot subject a marriage to a condition concerning the future (such as an agreement about the dividing of assets in case of divorce). The Code of Canon Law provides: “A marriage subject to a condition about the future cannot be contracted validly.” (CIC 1102)

The Canon Law: Letter and Spirit, a commentary on canon law, explains that condition may be defined as “a stipulation by which an agreement is made contingent upon the verification or fulfillment of some circumstance or event that is not yet certain.” It goes on to state that “any condition concerning the future attached to matrimonial consent renders marriage invalid.” For example, a marriage would be invalid if the parties stipulated that they must have children or they have the right to divorce and remarry someone else.

Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement
 
You may be right. I have no idea. But I figured that an interfaith marriage would also be forbidden and that the cermony would not be a catholic one.
Refer to my post #14. A Catholic can marry a non-Christian if they obtain a dispensation for “disparity of cult” from their Bishop. The marriage would be valid.
But I found this on wikipedia:
Wikipedia is not a good source of information regarding Catholicism or Canon Law.

On this topic, there is nothing incorrect in what they have stated regarding prenups and validity of marriage. In general, a prenup can invalidate a marriage.
 
You may be right. I have no idea. But I figured that an interfaith marriage would also be forbidden and that the cermony would not be a catholic one.
I’m a Catholic engaged to a Jewish woman (only 2 1/2 months to go). It’s allowed as long as you get a dispensation for disparity of cult/creed, as well as one for disparity of form if the wedding will not take place in a Catholic church. All I had to do was promise to do my best to share my Catholic faith with any children.
 
Wouldn’t that cause the marriage to be considered invalid in the Catholic Church?

I always thought prenuptual agreements were forbidden to Catholic couples seeking marriage, because they presuppose a future divorce, which is contrary to the intention of permanency in marriage. :confused:
Hi,

Well I guess no famous person or rich person can get married in the CC.😛 😃 They get divorced anyway:( I dont even know why they bother getting married.😦
 
Wouldn’t that cause the marriage to be considered invalid in the Catholic Church?
I think pre-nuptial agreements should be entered upon.

It does not presuppose anything. A friend of mine who took his vows for life, has been cheated on by his wife. But following a nervous breakdown, she has systematically stripped him of his assets including those he inherited from his wealthy parents and family.

Today he has recovered from being a broken man, she is living in luxury and opulance. He by contrast is very poor, lives off food shops throw away, wears clothes others discared. Drives scrap cars.

He was once a very wealthy man. Before she married him, she was very poor as were her family. She wants him out of his life. He paid for and raised her children, fathered by other men while she has been married to him.He is pursuing an anullment.

There does not appear any justice. He is a faithful Catholic. He bears no malice or frustration or anger by the fact he has been ‘taken to the cleaners’. I feel so sorry for him. But he is happy in Christ. Everyone speaks about how at peace he is.

I would never entertain a marriage again without a pre-nuptial agreement. I am strongly urging him to do the same.

We take vows for life, others do not
 
We take vows for life, others do not
We also shouldn’t marry people that we don’t trust. I feel sorry for your friend that got taken to the cleaners, but it seems as though a pre-nup would not have protected him, anyway, since a pre-nup doesn’t take effect until after the divorce, and it seems as though she cleaned him out while they were still married.
 
I suppose that as a Catholic it is important to: A) Acknowledge that marriage is for life and that since the Church prohibits divorce, it is wrong to make contigency plans; and B) make sure you always maintain seperate bank accounts in your name only and never use those monies for family expenses.
 
Hi,

I agree with everyone else. It’s a terrible idea. My wife and I have plenty to dispute. We even argue over religion and are in different places on our faith journey, though we’re both practicing Catholics. Did I forget to mention the perpetual state of Mortal Sin if you marry outside the Church?
 
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