Relative with children is living in an adulterous relationship

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A relative is living with a man not officially divorced from his first wife. She partakes in the Eucharist and is delinquent in paying her rent even though she gets support from ex and splits expenses with new man. She exposes her children to this on and off relationship. I gave her my advice and she has conceded that she would not take him back. I found out last night that she did. I will continue to be kind but I wish to distance myself.

Please, do you think that I am being harsh?
 
A relative is living with a man not officially divorced from his first wife. She partakes in the Eucharist and is delinquent in paying her rent even though she gets support from ex and splits expenses with new man. She exposes her children to this on and off relationship. I gave her my advice and she has conceded that she would not take him back. I found out last night that she did. I will continue to be kind but I wish to distance myself.

Please, do you think that I am being harsh?
It sounds like your relative is generally a mess and is making a lot of bad choices right now.

Feel free not to spend lots of time with her and to not to talk to her about her relationship. You can say something like “You know what I think about your relationship with Bob,” if the subject comes up.

You don’t need to do anything big and dramatic and irreparable–just be just a little less available than before. And if that’s not enough, cut it down a little more until you reach a level of contact that doesn’t make you nuts.

It does sound like her kids really need a stable and positive adult presence in their lives, so if you can be that, please try.

Best wishes!
 
A relative is living with a man not officially divorced from his first wife. She partakes in the Eucharist and is delinquent in paying her rent even though she gets support from ex and splits expenses with new man. She exposes her children to this on and off relationship. I gave her my advice and she has conceded that she would not take him back. I found out last night that she did. I will continue to be kind but I wish to distance myself.

Please, do you think that I am being harsh?
There are levels of contact. There is, of course, “cut off”…acquaintances, friends, good friends, one that is akin to family, etc.

You can pick which level of contact you want.
 
What would it accomplish to refuse to talk to her? You should be clear with her that this relationship is a bad idea. I would be most concerned about her children being exposed to this. Perhaps their father can file for custody?
 
What do you mean by “distance” yourself? Do you simply mean to keep your mouth shut because when she asked for advice and accepted it she didn’t take it, and now she’s not likely to ask? Good choice. If she asks again, you can just say, “You know what I’m going to tell you about living with a guy who is not your husband, let alone a guy who is still somebody else’s husband, and failing to pay your rent when you have the money to pay it. You know the right thing to do. Don’t ask me. Do it, or don’t do it, but don’t ask me when you know the answer.”

If you mean you’re going to give her some version of the silent treatment, I’d predict that either a) she won’t notice because she is too wrapped up in her own life or b) she will notice and she’ll decide she doesn’t need you and your harping, anyway. Besides, the silent treatment is covert social aggression. Not nice, and it produces a certain paranoid feeling in people it is aimed at, which is the black nasty gift that keeps on giving.

No, it is not harsh to stay off of a topic that is only going to make you say something you wish you hadn’t or something that does more harm than good (because good advice is not good when it won’t be taken) or else just bite your tongue through. If that makes spending time with your relative difficult, it is not too harsh to back off on spending time with her for the sake of mutual recreation. You’ll probably both do better with others, for that. It is a nice time to bring some fun into the life of someone going through a hard time, but some forms of charity are not any great gift. Give something nice, or don’t give it at all, even if the gift is your presence.

Do not expose her to covert aggression such as shunning or gossip, to contempt, ridicule, name-calling, or anything like that. That is harsh, unproductive, and uncharitable.
 
If I were in your situation, I would want to maintain a good loving relationship so that I might have a positive influence on the children. Sometimes being overly judgemental makes yourself feel very moral, but does not help those in need.
 
It sounds like your relative is generally a mess and is making a lot of bad choices right now.

Feel free not to spend lots of time with her and to not to talk to her about her relationship. You can say something like “You know what I think about your relationship with Bob,” if the subject comes up.

You don’t need to do anything big and dramatic and irreparable–just be just a little less available than before. And if that’s not enough, cut it down a little more until you reach a level of contact that doesn’t make you nuts.

It does sound like her kids really need a stable and positive adult presence in their lives, so if you can be that, please try.
Best wishes!
The children’s grandparents and uncle have been an anchor for them as well as myself. The youngest child is my godchild so I have an invested interest in their well being.
 
If I were in your situation, I would want to maintain a good loving relationship so that I might have a positive influence on the children. Sometimes being overly judgemental makes yourself feel very moral, but does not help those in need.
Exactly, this is what I want to avoid. I do not judge but I feel compelled to be the voice of reason with regards to the salvation of the soul. Today many people live according to their desires and say that it is “good”. God is not present.
 
What would it accomplish to refuse to talk to her? You should be clear with her that this relationship is a bad idea. I would be most concerned about her children being exposed to this. Perhaps their father can file for custody?
Their father is far away and hardly in their lives. Even he has different partners. It is not stable.
 
What do you mean by “distance” yourself? Do you simply mean to keep your mouth shut because when she asked for advice and accepted it she didn’t take it, and now she’s not likely to ask? Good choice. If she asks again, you can just say, “You know what I’m going to tell you about living with a guy who is not your husband, let alone a guy who is still somebody else’s husband, and failing to pay your rent when you have the money to pay it. You know the right thing to do. Don’t ask me. Do it, or don’t do it, but don’t ask me when you know the answer.”

If you mean you’re going to give her some version of the silent treatment, I’d predict that either a) she won’t notice because she is too wrapped up in her own life or b) she will notice and she’ll decide she doesn’t need you and your harping, anyway. Besides, the silent treatment is covert social aggression. Not nice, and it produces a certain paranoid feeling in people it is aimed at, which is the black nasty gift that keeps on giving.

No, it is not harsh to stay off of a topic that is only going to make you say something you wish you hadn’t or something that does more harm than good (because good advice is not good when it won’t be taken) or else just bite your tongue through. If that makes spending time with your relative difficult, it is not too harsh to back off on spending time with her for the sake of mutual recreation. You’ll probably both do better with others, for that. It is a nice time to bring some fun into the life of someone going through a hard time, but some forms of charity are not any great gift. Give something nice, or don’t give it at all, even if the gift is your presence.

Do not expose her to covert aggression such as shunning or gossip, to contempt, ridicule, name-calling, or anything like that. That is harsh, unproductive, and uncharitable.
She is avoiding me. I guess that is that. She knows where I stand. I will not repeat myself but I will not act as if everything is good either. I will continue to be kind to her and especially her children. The problem is that she has the victim mentality in which nothing is her fault and she deserves some happiness even if it is adulterous.
 
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