Relativism annoys me

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Is it just me, or does there seem to be a rediculous amount of Christians (not just Catholics) that play the “I wouldn’t do x myself” or “X isnt that bad, look at how bad Y is” cards? Either is unacceptable. No wonder the secular world laughs at Christians. As a group we don’t stand for anything anymore. We refuse to take a stand for righteousness, we dont speak boldly in defense of the faith. What is it going to take to get us back on track? What is it going to take, that if not as a nation, then as a faith tradition, for us to seek God’s face? I am calling n every person of failth who reads this post to put not only your political leaders, but also church leeaders, friends, family members, into your prayers. Pray that they have the strenght to rise up and say “No more!” 85% of americans are nominally Christian. if even 10% of those people would seek God’s face in prayer daily, what changes could be wrought. Looking to St, Thomas More as our guide, we must stand firm against wickedness, even when it isn’t the popular thing to do.
 
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Relativism also just smacks of someone who can’t make up their mind to me.
 
Thank God for those who speak for and pray for God’s truth and for fidelity to the Gospel of Jesus
 
Thank you, “CW”. You are right. More of us need to stand up and speak the truth. This whole relativism thing is so “New Age”. :nope:
 
Relativism is a sly fox. It creeps in unnoticed and takes up residence. It disguises itself in the thoughts of people that view themselves to be moral absolutists. The idea of living by the principles of a maxim is becoming a lost art. Self deception replaces self analysis.

Let’s look at the abortion issue and relativism among pro-life supporters.

Pro-life when considering abortion on demand states the maxim that all life is sacred without exception. Since life begins at conception, human chosen and caused abortion is always and in all cases wrong and should not occur.

This is classic moral absolutism and those that apply this maxim to their lives stand juxtaposed to the relativistic abortion on demanders. That is an easy case study to see.

What do we do and say to people that stand in this that allow relativism to thwart their actions in support of pro-life issues? This is where the shades of grey affect even the most stout hearted of moral absolutists.

My friend is an outstanding supporter of pro-life issues but is willing to break laws to get his point across. Since he is helping the anti-abortion cause I do nothing or say anything to dissuade his actions, even though they are illegal.

Since PE Obama is going to make abortion on demand a central point in his administration I will break laws to show my opposition to his stance on this point.

Where did moral absolutism go? Did our maxim change? Did our maxim not go far enough to cover these areas?

The God given laws of love should be our maxim. Love God with everything you have and love your neighbor as yourself. With no exceptions there can be no relativistic thinking. How to carry oneself in this maxim demands constant examination of conscience and repentance. Thank God there is the Cross. What would we do without it?
 
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Is it just me, or does there seem to be a rediculous amount of Christians (not just Catholics) that play the “I wouldn’t do x myself” or “X isnt that bad, look at how bad Y is” cards? Either is unacceptable. No wonder the secular world laughs at Christians. As a group we don’t stand for anything anymore. We refuse to take a stand for righteousness, we dont speak boldly in defense of the faith. What is it going to take to get us back on track? What is it going to take, that if not as a nation, then as a faith tradition, for us to seek God’s face? I am calling n every person of failth who reads this post to put not only your political leaders, but also church leeaders, friends, family members, into your prayers. Pray that they have the strenght to rise up and say “No more!” 85% of americans are nominally Christian. if even 10% of those people would seek God’s face in prayer daily, what changes could be wrought. Looking to St, Thomas More as our guide, we must stand firm against wickedness, even when it isn’t the popular thing to do.
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I usually try to make it easy by simply praying for the conversion of “all living in sin and darkness, especially those among my family and friends”. If I don’t keep my Rosary intentions short, I’ll end-up listing a whole bunch of intentions for 10-15 minutes straight before even starting the Rosary itself… 🤷
 
dove51 said:
:amen:

Relativism also just smacks of someone who can’t make up their mind to me.
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yes.

or ignorance.

I hate seeing it among my catholic friends, but if I say something to em I get the whole “preacher”, “well you are entitled to your own belief’s”, etc jazz. Or a polite “wow hmm I never knew that [but I don’t really care]” Its so sad!
 
Argument from generalization is a fallacy.

The Church is on Earth, in Purgatory, and in Heaven. Billions of saints have fought for, died for, and lived for the sake of righteousness - from the beginning of the Church to this very day. And what is more, the saints are alive in Heaven - praying for us. But that is not our only hope; our great and true hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ, who will come in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His Kingdom - a kingdom of joy, mercy, and peace - will have no end.
 
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Argument from generalization is a fallacy.

The Church is on Earth, in Purgatory, and in Heaven. Billions of saints have fought for, died for, and lived for the sake of righteousness - from the beginning of the Church to this very day. And what is more, our hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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I am merely stating my opinion. This is not a formal debate.
 
I am stating you’re using a fallacy, and stating my opinon as well. I am not debating you.
 
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