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HisTruePresence
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can an archdiocese “ban” a relgious order from preaching in their diocese because of their traditional practices even though Rome and east US dioceses approve of them? 
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Corki
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The Bishop has ultimate authority on who is allowed to say Mass in his diocese. He also is responsible for Church property. So he could, completely legitimately, “ban” members of an order from coming into the diocese to say Mass or to speak at one of the parishes.
If members of the order came on their own and were not using property related to the diocese and their activities did not involve Mass, I don’t know what the Bishop could really do. For example, if they rented private facilities and preached a mission, I am not sure the Bishop could stop them. He could tell the faithful not to attend, however, and he could keep the parishes from sponsoring or supporting it.
If members of the order came on their own and were not using property related to the diocese and their activities did not involve Mass, I don’t know what the Bishop could really do. For example, if they rented private facilities and preached a mission, I am not sure the Bishop could stop them. He could tell the faithful not to attend, however, and he could keep the parishes from sponsoring or supporting it.
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KCT
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Yes. And the orders I’ve heard of this happening to, have, out of obedience, stayed out of the diocese. —KCTcan an archdiocese “ban” a relgious order from preaching in their diocese because of their traditional practices even though Rome and east US dioceses approve of them?
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Pious_Mat
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Exactly who, and what, are we talking about here?
Are there Bishops who are banning the EF from being said in their Diocese? That wouldn’t go over well in Rome…
Are there Bishops who are banning the EF from being said in their Diocese? That wouldn’t go over well in Rome…
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HisTruePresence
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not necessarily. it has been like this in my diocese for years with this religious order that doesn’t celebrate the EF very often. it’s actually pretty sad cuz i know many of the religious over there and AHFI (Alliance of the Holy Familly, the umbrella order) is just what my diocese needs.
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Titus
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Bishops can’t ban the EF. So it shouldn’t go over well anywhere, yet some are definitely trying to ban it, by asking for Child Protection forms; various forms of proof that there are groups asking for the Vetus Ordo and other means. It’s all very sad.
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ASimpleSinner
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This is sort of two questions melded into one.can an archdiocese “ban” a relgious order from preaching in their diocese because of their traditional practices even though Rome and east US dioceses approve of them?
Can a bishop ban an order from his diocese? Yes. The local Roman ordinary of my city, displeased with some efforts by a certain order that has experienced some controversy over the past decade, has declared they are not to use any diocesan property and their activities are not to be promoted in the diocese. That is his right and perogative.
The order in question is very conservative with some traditional formations and stylings (if not “traditionalist”) but if I had to speculate, I would not say it is their traditional leanings that caused the ban, but other aspects of their style.
A bishop has a level of discretion in this matter… There are a few out there that would be so bold as to say “I ban any order that is too traditional” but in light of the MP allowing for any Latin priest to offer the TLM, the issue is kind of moot.
So he can’t ban the TLM, but has every right to not allow any given order into his diocese.
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