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My church has 4 altar stones that contain saints relics. Have certificates of authentication and they are from Rome. How do we find out what Saints Relics are in the altar stones?
 
How would I find out which Saints Relics are in my churches altar stones — we have four of them?
 
The certificates identify them. That is the whole point of the certificates.
 
Are the certificates in Latin, and that’s why you might be having difficulty interpreting what they say?

If you want to copy down the important parts and post them in your thread, I’m sure we’d be happy to take a crack at it.

It often starts off as “Universis praesentes litteras…” and the important parts are usually in italics or bold in the second line or so, or handwritten. Often times after the word “particulam”.
 
Read the letter. If you can’t understand a little Latin, Google Translate mangles it but will translate the names probably rather well. Otherwise, you will just have to crack the altars open. Please do not do that!
 
If the certificates do not day, I would dig in the Parish’s archives. It you could find out who the relics are from, when the church acquired them, and possibly more. Or you could ask some of the church’s golden oldies, the people who have been going there their entire life, ask a few, if they don’t know, they might know someone who does, or where to find out!
Good luck and god bless!

:rose:Our lady of Guadalupe, pray for us:rose:
 
Saint Jerome declared, “We do not worship, we do not adore, for fear that we should bow down to the creature rather than to the creator, but we venerate the relics of the martyrs in order the better to adore him whose martyrs they are.”

First-Class Relics: Items directly associated with the events of Christ’s life (manger, cross, etc.), or the physical remains of a saint (a bone, a hair, skull, a limb, etc.). Traditionally, a martyr’s relics are often more prized than the relics of other saints. Also, some saints’ relics are known for their extraordinary incorruptibility and so would have high regard. Parts of the saint that were significant to that saint’s life are more prized relics. For instance, King St. Stephen of Hungary’s right forearm is especially important because of his status as a ruler. A famous theologian’s head may be his most important relic. (The head of St. Thomas Aquinas was removed by the monks at the Cistercian abbey at Fossanova where he died). If a saint did a lot of travelling then the bones of his feet may be prized. Current Catholic teaching prohibits relics to be divided up into small, unrecognizable parts if they are to be used in liturgy (i.e., as in an altar).

Second-Class Relics: An item that the saint wore (a shirt, a glove, etc.) Also included is an item that the saint owned or frequently used, for example, a crucifix, rosary, book etc. Again, an item more important in the saint’s life is thus a more important relic. Sometimes a second class relic is a part of an item that the saint wore, known as Ex indumentis (“from the clothing”).

Third-Class Relics: Any object that is touched to a first- or second-class relic. Most third-class relics are small pieces of cloth, though in the first millennium oil was popular; the Monza ampullae contained oil collected from lamps burning before the major sites of Christ’s life, and some reliquaries had holes for oil to be poured in and out again.

The sale of relics is strictly forbidden by the Church. The Code of Canon Law states:

§1190 §1 – “It is absolutely forbidden to sell sacred relics.”

§1190 §2 – “Relics of great significance and other relics honored with great reverence by the people cannot be alienated validly in any manner or transferred permanently without the permission of the Apostolic See.”

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So would the clothes placed on a Saints’ remains after death count as a second class relic ?

If anyone is interested, here is a brief video of the Reinterment of the Relics of St. Magnus & St. Bonosa at a local parish in Sept 2012. The most beautiful Mass I’ve ever witnessed.

youtube.com/watch?v=zwx0_ppmuFc
 
So would the clothes placed on a Saints’ remains after death count as a second class relic ?

If anyone is interested, here is a brief video of the Reinterment of the Relics of St. Magnus & St. Bonosa at a local parish in Sept 2012. The most beautiful Mass I’ve ever witnessed.

youtube.com/watch?v=zwx0_ppmuFc
I think no. Because 2nd class relics are things used by that holy person when he/ she is still alive =)
 
So would the clothes placed on a Saints’ remains after death count as a second class relic ?

If anyone is interested, here is a brief video of the Reinterment of the Relics of St. Magnus & St. Bonosa at a local parish in Sept 2012. The most beautiful Mass I’ve ever witnessed.

youtube.com/watch?v=zwx0_ppmuFc
Those would then be Third Class, not Second.

Yes, I’ve been to that church many times (I’m from the city). The new priest is fantastic and the Masses are always great.
 
What about this. I have a rosary that was blessed by pope st. Pius x before he became pope. My great grandfather was a personal friend of the pontiff and we have many things blessed by the pope, but the rosary is the only thing we have documentation on. Is this considered a second class relic?

:rose:Our lady of guadalupe, pray for us:rose:
 
What about this. I have a rosary that was blessed by pope st. Pius x before he became pope. My great grandfather was a personal friend of the pontiff and we have many things blessed by the pope, but the rosary is the only thing we have documentation on. Is this considered a second class relic?

:rose:Our lady of guadalupe, pray for us:rose:
second class relics are things related and had personal contact to the person. He/ she may have used it frequently like his clothes, breviary, bible, shoes, cassock rosary, journals, letter etc…

Da Mihi Animas Coetera Tolle
 
I think no. Because 2nd class relics are things used by that holy person when he/ she is still alive =)
I would have thought so too, but saints’ coffins are venerated as relics. For example, with Miguel Pro and the two Fatima kids, their coffins were cut up and the wood from them are venerated as relics, with thecas and documentation.

Maybe they would consider burial and internment as part of the saints’ lives?
 
I would have thought so too, but saints’ coffins are venerated as relics. For example, with Miguel Pro and the two Fatima kids, their coffins were cut up and the wood from them are venerated as relics, with thecas and documentation.

Maybe they would consider burial and internment as part of the saints’ lives?
yes… because They used those things and those things had direct contact to the body for a long period of time eg: coffin, death shroud

in fact mother dudzik’s center for the cause use soil from her grave to distribute

and Dominic Savio is* ex linteis sepulcralibus* a linen from his sepulcher if I am correct

Da Mihi Animan Coetera Tolle
 
second class relics are things related and had personal contact to the person. He/ she may have used it frequently like his clothes, breviary, bible, shoes, cassock rosary, journals, letter etc…

Da Mihi Animas Coetera Tolle
Thanks, I was wondering because the pontiff touched it, but he never used it, because it was my great grandpa’s
 
I think no. Because 2nd class relics are things used by that holy person when he/ she is still alive =)
Those would then be Third Class, not Second.

Yes, I’ve been to that church many times (I’m from the city). The new priest is fantastic and the Masses are always great.
Thanks. No big deal really.

YTC, yes it is a wonderful parish. Someone once called it “the center of all things Catholic” 👍
 
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