Religion of peace?? Please explain.

[Booklover]

hi

Probably , the truth behind this **** is that the girls ran away from their parents and wanted to marry muslims. the authorieties, wants to fend off a stand off in the country took the girsl back to their parents against their will.

It is very common that Christians would cry persexcution when things doesnt go their way. Yers it happens in Egypt as well. It happens that Christian girls fall in love with a muslim man every once in a while. They run away with the guys they love and the christians in teh country cry persecution and blackmail the government to get back their daughters or else they will escalate the issue internationally as if it is persecution.

Thr ugly truth is that they want the girls back against the girls will . These girls alot of the time are sent to remote places as a punishment and are forced to marry others they dopnt like against their will to make sure that they remain christians.

Good example of takkiya or lying for Islam, which you Muslims claim is not done. You just can’t face the truth about the ugliness of Islam.

a very famous case of that in Egypt was the ase of waffaa kostantin in Egypt who were forced ( theough she converted to Islam ) to be given back to the orthodox church and currently she is serving her punishment ina remote monastry in Egypt desert.

Where’s the proof of this? I googled the name and nothing came up. I suppose it’s just another made up story of yours.

There is no persecution , but Christians love to be påortrayed as martyrs , It is their way to cover the faliure of their faith to make sense and hold its own adherents.

The persecution of Christians by Muslims is certainly happening in Egypt as this eye-witness account states.

Good luck with god dying to remove sins, sins that he can willingly forgive without dying . oh sorry , i forgot that he resurected himself just couple of days after he died. he sacrificed himself for three days and afterwards thought it was boring in the so he resurected himself.

Now you’re getting incoherent!

Ther only thing that keeps Christians Christians in these times is that the Christian world is technologically advanced and has money and is a great producrer of sex, drugs and rock n roll. Orther than that , Christianity wouldnt even stand to Buddism in a common sense challenge let alone Islam.

and you wonder why girls run!

good luck

You think that Islam makes sense? How about this for sense and honor of women?


Vickie

 

[R_not]

Every day the proof just mounts. islam is the ‘religion’ that just keeps on giving - us that proof!

I would put a smiley face on that but if one really thinks about it - it is sad due to the violence against so many human beings around this globe. And it has been going on for 1400 years with no end in sight.

 

[inJESUS]

what many keep forgetting is that islam is not only a set of beliefs, but a poltical ideology, and a dangerous one. Of course a muslim will be more than happy subduing and make us pay jizya in humiliation as per Quran and might call it the peak of mercy,but it does not mean it is indeed mercy… mercy and peace are not in the eye of the beholder this is why neither the example of Muhammad nor his teachings are a universal standard of truth and peace but more of a reflection of 7th century “saharism”…

 

[Booklover]

Every day the proof just mounts. islam is the ‘religion’ that just keeps on giving - us that proof!

I would put a smiley face on that but if one really thinks about it - it is sad due to the violence against so many human beings around this globe. And it has been going on for 1400 years with no end in sight.

And here’s what the “peaceful” Quran has in store for us!


Vickie

 

[inJESUS]

Every day the proof just mounts. islam is the ‘religion’ that just keeps on giving - us that proof!

I would put a smiley face on that but if one really thinks about it - it is sad due to the violence against so many human beings around this globe. And it has been going on for 1400 years with no end in sight.

Jesus warned about it beforehand…didn’t He say people will kill us thiking they are doing the will of God? didn’t He say they will hate us and persecute us? didn’t He say we should endure ? everything He says is truth.

 

[bilop]

These Nigerian Christians need to organize and arm themselves.

I can tell you, if a mob wants to try and burn down my Church, they better bring more than pitchforks and torches, or they’ll have a reallllly bad day.

God Bless

 

[Rayaan]

Yeah this is B.S…

The girls ran away to marry muslims…

Its always the same the most brutal people are christians and white christians especially, History testifies to this, FACT…

Next thing you know Satan will be pointing at us telling us were evil…

 

[LDNCatholic]

Its always the same the most brutal people are christians and white christians especially, History testifies to this, FACT…

Rayaan enough of this. Stop bringing race into these discussions, it is not welcome.

 

[Rayaan]

Blanket statements hurt dont they…

Read the forum, all you will get is blanket statements against muslims, as soon as they stop I wont say a word…

 

[R_not]

Jesus warned about it beforehand…didn’t He say people will kill us thiking they are doing the will of God? didn’t He say they will hate us and persecute us? didn’t He say we should endure ? everything He says is truth.

Yeah, you are right.

It still causes me sadness and I still am of the frame of mind that He didn’t tell us to lie down and die by their hands. If we can do something that is not violent to stop it - I would say - do it!

 

[R_not]

These Nigerian Christians need to organize and arm themselves.

I can tell you, if a mob wants to try and burn down my Church, they better bring more than pitchforks and torches, or they’ll have a reallllly bad day.

God Bless

Well, then the muslims probably wouldn’t have attacked them as they have done. This is an example (another example) of a peaceful people being slaughtered, intimidated, etc by muslims who just think everything is theirs because the koran says so.

It is also why they are not doing this in our lands.

I would suggest reading ‘A Never ending War’. Or even this post by Geert Wilders which shows us what has happened in europe - as has happened in all the countries that muslims migrate to. he tells of their goals, and their tactics - which isn’t so much the ‘war on terror’, but a ‘war using other tactics too’ such as political islam.

I can not say it any better than Geert Wilders on what islam brings to countries.
sheikyermami.com/2008/06/05/full-transcript-of-geert-wilders-speech-in-the-danish-parliament/#more-8354

Italian writer Oriana Fallaci, said: “A moderate Islam does not exist. It does not exist because there is no difference between Good Islam and Bad Islam. There is Islam and that it the end of it. Islam is the Koran, and nothing other than the Koran.“
(Oriana Fallaci”The Force of Reason” post-script page 305 February 2006)]
Wise and true words.

This article goes into political islam:
frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=4DE15EF9-A76C-4DD4-81E2-75683AEED74D

jihadwatch.org probably has some other articles in its archives you can search for.

And I will say this - the police or the media will tell you that muslim(s) did it. They will blare the news if they find someone else who did it, but if it is a muslim - forget it - you won’t hear about it.

 

[inJESUS]

Maududi cites this reliable hadith:

A man who was formerly a Christian, then was Muslim, and again became a Christian was brought before Ali. Ali asked him: What is the cause of your conduct? He replied: I have found the religion of the Christians better than your religion. Ali asked: What is your belief about Jesus? He said: He is my Lord (Rabb); or else he said: He is Lord of Ali. Hearing this, Ali ordered that he be executed.

to the OP, maybe these people were thinking : instead of killing and executing those who believe Jesus is Rabb, bring them to the umma and get some extra gift in heaven.

Who knows what one might learn from such peaceful history…

 

[LDNCatholic]

Blanket statements hurt dont they…

Read the forum, all you will get is blanket statements against muslims, as soon as they stop I wont say a word…

That isn’t all you will get. There are quite a few Catholics on this board who realise that not all Muslims are terrorists.

Just to finish, your blanket statements don’t hurt me, as I realise it is complete nonsense. However to those who are insulting Muslims it just makes you seem irrational and hate filled, which I know you are not.

 

[R_not]

That isn’t all you will get. There are quite a few Catholics on this board who realise that not all Muslims are terrorists.

Just to finish, your blanket statements don’t hurt me, as I realise it is complete nonsense. However to those who are insulting Muslims it just makes you seem irrational and hate filled, which I know you are not.

But they are jihadists and their goal is one of three things - death to the infidels, conversion to islam or subjugation of the infidels (dhimmitude). That is what their idea of peace means.

And mohammed told those who did not want to do the killing to support those who do. muslim charities, deceiving us as to what islam is, and other tactics - basically, anything goes - just as long as one of the three ideas of peace that muslims have is achieved.

 

[meedo]

Maybe Meedo, just maybe, these men are taught that converting someone will grant them some bonus in heaven…i do not live in Egypt, but i know many Egyptians, and these things did indeed happen. If we could trace any teaching of such behavior, maybe we’ll understand what these people were hoping for.

well converting a man to truth is a great thing to do . You are helping another human to the path you believe is right and it is not a problem or anything to condemn. But to stupidly suggest that Muslims believe that they need to ''force ‘’ christian girls to convert to islam for the reason of advancing islam is a load of c.r.a.p . You cannot ‘‘force’’ someone to ‘‘believe’’ and those newly ‘‘forced’’ wives would teach their children christianity in revenge for thm being kidnapped . Something that no muslim would like to have for his children.

the hate and paranoia has hit the fan on this website and worldwide christianity. Christians in the west doesnt feel the change because they didnt know before and thety wouldnt know now. no culture of hate and paranoia develops like that unless it feels theatened and insecure . You naively dont realise that it is exactly exactly this behavious that eleminates christianity as any option for a muslim . First it was the jews umntill they were reduxced to acceptable levels and numbers , now its the muslims.

good luck

 

[LDNCatholic]

But they are jihadists and their goal is one of three things - death to the infidels, conversion to islam or subjugation of the infidels (dhimmitude). That is what their idea of peace means.

And mohammed told those who did not want to do the killing to support those who do. muslim charities, deceiving us as to what islam is, and other tactics - basically, anything goes - just as long as one of the three ideas of peace that muslims have is achieved.

I’ve lived next door to a Muslim family my entire life. Not once have they tried to convert me. And unless they are very poor at planning they have yet to subjugate my household or kill us all.

My Muslim friends, and I have many, have never tried to convert subjugate or kill me, in fact most only spoke about their religion when I brought up the subject of faith.

Not all Muslims believe in a physical Jihad in the form you are talking about, many more see it as a struggle against sins within themselves.

 

[meedo]

But they are jihadists and their goal is one of three things - death to the infidels, conversion to islam or subjugation of the infidels (dhimmitude). That is what their idea of peace means.

And mohammed told those who did not want to do the killing to support those who do. muslim charities, deceiving us as to what islam is, and other tactics - basically, anything goes - just as long as one of the three ideas of peace that muslims have is achieved.

Dhirka Dhirka Dhirkastan , Jihad Jihad ,Muhammed Ali, sherpa sherpa bla they hate our freedom bla bla we are good they are bad bla bla bla , sand sand camel camel bla bla bla. goats and more goats bla bla bla . America alone bla bla

Theya re all against you

oh i almost forgot the best part,!!

( weird eastern music playing in the background)

 

[LDNCatholic]

Dhirka Dhirka Dhirkastan , Jihad Jihad ,Muhammed Ali, sherpa sherpa bla they hate our freedom bla bla we are good they are bad bla bla bla , sand sand camel camel bla bla bla. goats and more goats bla bla bla . America alone bla bla

Theya re all against you

oh i almost forgot the best part,!!

( weird eastern music playing in the background)

 

[R_not]

I’ve lived next door to a Muslim family my entire life. Not once have they tried to convert me. And unless they are very poor at planning they have yet to subjugate my household or kill us all.

My Muslim friends, and I have many, have never tried to convert subjugate or kill me, in fact most only spoke about their religion when I brought up the subject of faith.

Not all Muslims believe in a physical Jihad in the form you are talking about, many more see it as a struggle against sins within themselves.

Their numbers are not sufficient yet.

I hear this all the time. And yes, there are some muslims here for the same reason everyone else is. But, the problem is islam. (How can such ‘moderate’ people follow such a guy as mohammed should be asked by all of us - he enslaved, stole, lied, tortured and killed - he fought in over 35 of the 80+ battles and razs (raids) that he and his followers instigated against non-muslims.

anyway, maybe you should read this, and then I will follow it up with some other things about the MSA (muslims student association) that is in our higher education schools - with direct ties to the muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organization. And let us not forget the muslim charities that were shut down by our government.

I can not say it any better than Geert Wilders on what islam brings to countries.
sheikyermami.com/2008/06/05/full-transcript-of-geert-wilders-speech-in-the-danish-parliament/#more-8354

Italian writer Oriana Fallaci, said: “A moderate Islam does not exist. It does not exist because there is no difference between Good Islam and Bad Islam. There is Islam and that it the end of it. Islam is the Koran, and nothing other than the Koran.“
(Oriana Fallaci”The Force of Reason” post-script page 305 February 2006)]
Wise and true words.

article on % of muslims and % of violence:
frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=4DE15EF9-A76C-4DD4-81E2-75683AEED74D

And there are a series of articles on the MSA in frontpagemag.com

I would suggest taking your time and reading them in your leisure. There is a lot to read.

I can go on about mohammed - but I won’t at this time.

 

[LDNCatholic]

Yeah, I’m not particularly worried about all that ‘‘proof’’, my own ethnic group was in much the same boat that the Muslims in the West find themselves in now, feared, loathed, suspected of all being terrorists.

Yesterday it was the my lot, today its theirs, twenty years from now it’ll be someone else.