Religion of Peace?

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Mike_D30:
I think this about sums the argument up perfectly. I was way to verbose trying to get this across, thank you.
Something I dont understand, Muslims constantly preach about Abraham, Moses etc and how they have no problems with the OT, yet they try and use it against Catholics??? :confused:
 
To add to all that they did before they go and attack a Maronite Catholic Church. Peace? It doesn’t sound like it.
 
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amgid:
The NT has nothing to do with it. Since when did the OT cease to be Christian scripture? If you have the right to pull a few verses out of context from the Koran to bash the Moslems with, then they have equally the right to pull out verses out of context from the OT to bash you with. If “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” was good enough for the Jews, it was also good enough for the Arabs.

You bet they are! That is why they disapprove of unfair debating tactics, even against a non-Christian. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” Jesus taught. “Love thy enemy!” “Turn the other cheek!” “Bless them that curse you, and do good to them that hate you!” Let’s see you apply some of these principles for a change.

I am as much ready to defend the right of a Moslem against unfair representation, as I am to defend the right of a Catholic against unfair representation.

amgid
The difference is that the god of Islam says you were made for war the God of Christianity ordained war in specific situations. On one hand, you are made for war, Moses was sent to war in certain instances.
 
Well they claim to be people of peace… although it sounds something like this:

“You have made cartoons which insult the founder of my very peaceful religion so now I must kill you.”

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carol marie:
Well they claim to be people of peace… although it sounds something like this:

“You have made cartoons which insult the founder of my very peaceful religion so now I must kill you.”
When you make cartoons lampooning a prophet revered by more than a billion Moslems the world over, you are asking for trouble. I am sure the majority of Moslems don’t say “. . . I must kill you” (although I am sure they would be offended by it). But there are fanatics and extremists (in all religions) who would say that. So why provoke them? Is that what you think Jesus meant when He talked about “treating others the way you would want them to treat you”?

amgid
 
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amgid:
When you make cartoons lampooning a prophet revered by more than a billion Moslems the world over, you are asking for trouble. I am sure the majority of Moslems don’t say “. . . I must kill you” (although I am sure they would be offended by it). But there are fanatics and extremists (in all religions) who would say that. So why provoke them? Is that what you think Jesus meant when He talked about “treating others the way you would want them to treat you”?

amgid
Sure each religion has it’s extreamists but Islam is the only religion run by them.
 
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amgid:
When you make cartoons lampooning a prophet revered by more than a billion Moslems the world over, you are asking for trouble. I am sure the majority of Moslems don’t say “. . . I must kill you” (although I am sure they would be offended by it). But there are fanatics and extremists (in all religions) who would say that. So why provoke them? Is that what you think Jesus meant when He talked about “treating others the way you would want them to treat you”?

amgid
I have read pretty much all of the posts on CA about the Cartoons and the consensus I get is pretty much everybody is against the cartoons, mainly because they are very unchristian! So why are you (Seemingly) blaming anyone on this board for provoking Moselems! Even as bad as these Caroons are it is no reason to go about killing priests and burning churches. Peacful protest and boycotts are every humans right but what is happening is not peaceful and very threatening. I hope your forthcoming apology will be accepted by those you accuse of being unchristian.

Peace! 👍
 
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amgid:
When you make cartoons lampooning a prophet revered by more than a billion Moslems the world over, you are asking for trouble. I am sure the majority of Moslems don’t say “. . . I must kill you” (although I am sure they would be offended by it). But there are fanatics and extremists (in all religions) who would say that. So why provoke them? Is that what you think Jesus meant when He talked about “treating others the way you would want them to treat you”?

amgid
Christians are harrassed by the media just as much or more than the moslims. They don’t make death threats. But the muslims do when they get offended.

No matter how bad the cartoons arre it does not justify death threats. You try to justify moslems making threats but to tell the truth the cartoons really are not that bad. They are cartoons that really do not hurt anyone. Do you think Christians don’t get laughed at? You are a fool if you think we don’t get laughed at.
 
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jimmy:
No matter how bad the cartoons arre it does not justify death threats.
It’s way past death threats, they’ve already murdered in cold blood three priests in Turkey to the chants of allah akbar.
 
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moses8472:
Judges Chapter 1/verse 1: "After the death of Joshua, the Israelites consulted the lord, asking, “who shall be first among us to attack the canaanites and to do battle with them? The Lord answered Judah shall attack:I have delieved the land into his power.”

“Let none [of Babylon] escape” (Jer 50:29).
“Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children,”
says God (Ezek 9:6).

There are plenty more quotes i can use… I mean LOL, you people think that the quran has bad passages, look at the passages from the Bible!!!
Dear Friend,

It is important to remember that when Jesus came, He is the New Covenant. With Him came peace and tolerance. Regardless of the Old Testament, Jesus’ New Covenant calls on all of us to love one another.

There is nothing ANYWHERE like that in the Q’uran.

God bless you and may our Blessed Mother pray for you,

Donna
 
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amgid:
When you make cartoons lampooning a prophet revered by more than a billion Moslems the world over, you are asking for trouble. I am sure the majority of Moslems don’t say “. . . I must kill you” (although I am sure they would be offended by it). But there are fanatics and extremists (in all religions) who would say that. So why provoke them? Is that what you think Jesus meant when He talked about “treating others the way you would want them to treat you”?

amgid
First let me say that I believe it’s wrong to make cartoons that make fun of anyone’s religion. I don’t find those sort of cartoons or jokes funny in the least.

Jesus is mocked all the time and although it makes me so sad (mostly for the people doing the mocking) I can’t imagine any of our Priests, Bishops, or even the Pope (leaders of my faith) calling for the DEATH of the one who mocked our Lord. We are told to turn the other cheek - to pray for our enemies. That is just how Jesus would want us to treat others.

But in the Muslim faith - it seems that when the fanatics & extreamists speak and then act (killing 3 Priests) - everyone else silently agrees with them. I don’t hear Muslims by the hundred thousands standing up and saying, “Hey… you extreamists… quit calling for their DEATHS! That’s just plain WRONG and goes against our peaceful faith.” And more often than not it seems that the leaders of the Muslim faith are the very ones who are calling for the DEATHS of those who - let’s face it - made a cartoon. Big deal. It’s not like they drove a plane into your buildings and killed thousands.
 
**Here’s how you know…

**If every action, question, thought, prayer, and belief is perfect through the eyes of LOVE, then you know it is of GOD.

If any faith would demand of you something which cannot be done through the eyes and heart in LOVE, or if your heart and mind don’t agree on what LOVE is at that moment, then either that portion of that faith is false, that whole faith is false, or that ideology is false.

GOD is LOVE WITHOUT exception FOR ALL mankind. Wherever LOVE and GOD do not go together 100% of the time in your heart and mind, there is a something wrong–something missing.

Whatever is not LOVE is not of GOD, by GOD, or for GOD.

It is that simple. It’s the only test you need.

L O V E

…whenever you’re not sure, ask yourself, “Is what I think LOVE?” “Is what I believe LOVE?” “Is what I’m about to do LOVE?”

GOD is LOVE. In this you will find the TRUTH.

**need some inspiration?.. **www.simkiss.net/sacredheart/
 
simkiss said:
Here’s how you know…

If every action, question, thought, prayer, and belief is perfect through the eyes of LOVE, then you know it is of GOD.

If any faith would demand of you something which cannot be done through the eyes and heart in LOVE, or if your heart and mind don’t agree on what LOVE is at that moment, then either that portion of that faith is false, that whole faith is false, or that ideology is false.

GOD is LOVE WITHOUT exception FOR ALL mankind. Wherever LOVE and GOD do not go together 100% of the time in your heart and mind, there is a something wrong–something missing.

Whatever is not LOVE is not of GOD, by GOD, or for GOD.

It is that simple. It’s the only test you need.

L O V E

…whenever you’re not sure, ask yourself, “Is what I think LOVE?” “Is what I believe LOVE?” “Is what I’m about to do LOVE?”

GOD is LOVE. In this you will find the TRUTH.

**need some inspiration?.. **www.simkiss.net/sacredheart/

BEAUTIFUL! And your website, UNBELIEVABLY inspiring! 👍 :amen: and may the Almighty Lord :blessyou:
 
"Fight against those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe in neither God nor the last day, who do not forbid what God and his messenger have forbidden, and who do not embrace the true faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued" (Surah 9:29).

I just posted a new topic before I saw this one…great work! I totally agree, as I said in a recent post, why is it that the “Islamic extremists” are dubbed…well…“extremists?” They are actually following Qu’ranic teaching! They are no more “extremist” than am I a “Catholic Christian extremist!!!”
 
thank you. God’s blessings and grace be with you and those you love.
 
simkiss said:
Here’s how you know…

If every action, question, thought, prayer, and belief is perfect through the eyes of LOVE, then you know it is of GOD.

If any faith would demand of you something which cannot be done through the eyes and heart in LOVE, or if your heart and mind don’t agree on what LOVE is at that moment, then either that portion of that faith is false, that whole faith is false, or that ideology is false.

GOD is LOVE WITHOUT exception FOR ALL mankind. Wherever LOVE and GOD do not go together 100% of the time in your heart and mind, there is a something wrong–something missing.

Whatever is not LOVE is not of GOD, by GOD, or for GOD.

It is that simple. It’s the only test you need.

L O V E

…whenever you’re not sure, ask yourself, “Is what I think LOVE?” “Is what I believe LOVE?” “Is what I’m about to do LOVE?”

GOD is LOVE. In this you will find the TRUTH.

**need some inspiration?.. **www.simkiss.net/sacredheart/

:amen: :gopray: :bible1: :blessyou:
 
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Mike_D30:
It’s way past death threats, they’ve already murdered in cold blood three priests in Turkey to the chants of allah akbar.

This article is illuminating:​

**Fitzgerald: The cultural imperialism of the Arabs

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald discusses how Arab-ness is in many ways inextricable from Islam – a phenomenon that has had effects even among dhimmi populations.

jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/2005_10.php


…As Infidels seek out ways to divide and weaken Islam, surely the exploitation of this linguistic, cultural, and political imperialism of the Arabs should be high on the list. Remember how the “Arabs” were hated even by some of their “Afghan” allies whom they treated with such cannon-fodder contempt --at least according to all the reports that have come out of Afghanistan. The resentment of non-Arabs, of Kurds, Berbers, blacks, Persians, Malays and so on, is perfectly understandable. It is not a Western invention. It has not in any way been fanned by the West. It need not be. It need only be pointed out. And even then, the Arabs themselves help this cause by continuing to show their contempt and indifference for non-Arabs, though they wish those non-Arabs to adopt whatever causes they, the Arabs, deem important.

Part of weakening Islam is to show many Muslims that Islam was simply an Arab invention and export, a poisoned chalice that has lain low higher and superior civilizations. This is likely to resonate especially in Iran among those who have had their fill of the Islamic Republic of Iran – that is, every thinking and morally aware person in Iran…

**
 
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