That is understandable. I can see why you would get angry. I agree with you on that point and I would never call pope John Paul II or John XXIII heretics even though I might think the philosophical view that supports humanistic rights is misguided.
I don’t find that to be a satisfactory answer to the problem. They have perpetuated a philosophy that may be misleading. I see what you are saying. The secular humanists could have possibly led to a mass rejection of the Christian faith. But isn’t that what has happened anyway? Our Christian society has been completely rejected. I think that the Church’s support of humanistic rights has supported the secularization of the US and Europe. Now everyone is fighting for their own rights. There is no sense of self-sacrifice because I have the right to whatever I have and whatever I want. They have no sense of the Spirit acting in the world. I think that rather than having ‘rights’ as our guides we should have truth and charity, the mind and the heart, as our guides. They never contradict.
It isn’t against the rules. It isn’t simply a difference of opinion, it is a difference of world view. He is trying to use facts and logic, not just his opinion, to support his view.
he has no “facts” when he accuses the Holy Father of heresy and putting himself in a situation of heresy.he has no facts to back that up. period.
I dunno, calling the pope a heretic seems to qualify – I doubt Benedict would consider his actions heretical, and he’s supposed to be infallible about this sort of thing :juggle:
Oh now we have ‘heresies’. What others do we have now?
It has been a difficult balance, because of the two extreme errors–and especially since one side uses classical Catholic terminology, but with a different meaning. We’ve done well in some places to help turn the tide against Communism, but that’s allowed Liberalism in the west to rise again–and because their doctrines resemble Catholic doctrine, they are all the more deceptively attractive. But, at the same time, in the Middle East and Far East the more totalitarian philosophies are doing damage to authentic human rights–likewise, even the societies built on Liberalism are beginnign to trample true rights, while exalting false ones (whereas in the 19th century they were mostly just exalting false ones, and attacking the hiearchical Church’s rights, rather than individual’s).
I don’t know if simply calling the pope a heretic would break the rules. All the protestants on here would call the pope a heretic and so would the Eastern Orthodox. You have to be respectful though.
he was not respectful of the Holy Father. not by a long shot.
there are no heresies with pope benedict xvi. none
