Religious Pluralism

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Hey everyone, first I hope that everyone’s Advent is going well. My question is kind of abstract, we discuss it in my philosophy course last semester but I would like to know more from a Catholic perspective.

How can we explain religious pluralism? Most especially the accounts of miracles in other religions. I have read that God does not exclude Himself to those other religions (whether it be Protestant sects or Hinduism) but just because there are supposed miracles doesn’t mean the religion is true. Can anyone shed any light for me? Thank you!
 
How can we explain religious pluralism? Most especially the accounts of miracles in other religions. I have read that God does not exclude Himself to those other religions (whether it be Protestant sects or Hinduism) but just because there are supposed miracles doesn’t mean the religion is true. Can anyone shed any light for me? Thank you!
From the Bhagavad Gita, 9:23:[Krishna said:]
Some with faith may offer worship
to other gods as devotees
but that is only me they worship
tho’ not in ways the law decrees.
BG 7:21-22 also applies.

The miracles in non-Hindu religions are explained because Krishna hears and responds to all prayers, including those not addressed to Himself. The application of this argument to miracles in non-Christian religions is obvious.

rossum
 
Hey everyone, first I hope that everyone’s Advent is going well. My question is kind of abstract, we discuss it in my philosophy course last semester but I would like to know more from a Catholic perspective.

How can we explain religious pluralism? **Most especially the accounts of miracles in other religions. **I have read that God does not exclude Himself to those other religions (whether it be Protestant sects or Hinduism) but just because there are supposed miracles doesn’t mean the religion is true. Can anyone shed any light for me? Thank you!
The same way you might explain accounts of haunted houses, alien abduction stories, astral projection, psychic powers and so on. Add to this magic (not the spells kind, but the entertainment kind) and the fact that it is profitable for some people to fake miracles for financial and other worldly gains.
 
It is pretty simple, really, Jacob1. Though religions are about ideas surrounding God and are therefore contents in mind, God, or Krsna, or by whatever name, Being Substance, is not about religion. Similarly to the “evolution” debate being egotistically homo-centric in the same way that the cosmos were thought to be geocentric, religiosity is synthetic “knowledge” not respected by God in God’s Allness any more or less than any other human thoughts or theories. “Miracles,” often suspect even within Catholic contexts, must necessarily operate in the same way as other Natural laws as manifest by God. I would see them as manifestations, if actual, of Divine Love acting without respect to the artifices of faith. Do you feel that God is so small as to be only a Catholic God, or is God big enough for the Universe? Can you look at the deep field photos from the Hubble telescope and not wonder if Life is a Divine Force acting on all of Universe, not just a speck of humanity in an incredibly small time frame and limited numbers?
 
Hey everyone, first I hope that everyone’s Advent is going well. My question is kind of abstract, we discuss it in my philosophy course last semester but I would like to know more from a Catholic perspective.

How can we explain religious pluralism? Most especially the accounts of miracles in other religions. I have read that God does not exclude Himself to those other religions (whether it be Protestant sects or Hinduism) but just because there are supposed miracles doesn’t mean the religion is true. Can anyone shed any light for me? Thank you!
There’s always, of course, the opinion that miracle claims are fabrications, or stories that over time (mostly due to ineffective means of transmission, and interpolations) become altered and infused with fantastic myths 🤷
 
God is the absolute truth.

Every man can find truths for himself, because many are obvious. So too many religions have some truths.

God calls out to every man. Remember, He is a personal God.

Then we add Revelation where God confers additional truths. Some men have rejected many of these and formed their own religion. These are lacking, for one cannot pick and choose truth. Truth is truth no matter.

Only Catholicism possesses the “fullness of truth” for God founded it directly. His ministry sorted it out for us.
 
Hi, buffalo -

My advent is OK and I hope yours is going well, too. Thanks for asking.

Let my answer approach your question sideways.

First, in the OT, a prophet speaking for God said, words to the effect, “True religion is to walk before the Lord your God with a contrite heart and a humble spirit; and the care of the widow and the orphan.”

Now, I respectfully submit, any soul who does that definition and believes in God, then by faith in God, can work miracles. I submit that, with total disregard of such religious labels as Christian (whether Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant etc) or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu or Zoroastrian or etc. The key is a contrite heart, humble spirit, care of the orphan and widow and faith.

That’s just my two cents worth.

As far as some of the other facets of religious pluralism, I think God has tried to reach many nations before, during and since Adam, Seth, Noah, Abram, Israel, Jesus Christ and our Church, which I do believe has the fullness of God’s truth.
 
Hi, again, buffalo -

I almost lost Post #7 on this thread; when I submitted it, the server hung up for a good minute.

I think people of a lot of different religions, because of their conscience and their reasoning powers have recognized some of God’s teachings and spoke or written those teachings, in their respective religions.
That’s my two cents on that.

What were your philosophy class’ conclusions?

Don
 
If you are interested in some new ideas on religious pluralism in relation to the Trinity, please check out my website at www.religiouspluralism.ca, and give me your thoughts on improving content and presentation.

My thesis is that an abstract version of the Trinity could be Christianity’s answer to the world need for a framework of pluralistic theology.

In a rational pluralistic worldview, major religions may be said to reflect the psychology of One God in three basic personalities, unified in spirit and universal in mind – analogous to the orthodox definition of the Trinity. In fact, there is much evidence that the psychologies of world religions reflect the unity of One God in an absolute Trinity.

In a constructive worldview: east, west, and far-east religions present a threefold understanding of One God manifest primarily in Muslim and Hebrew intuition of the Deity Absolute, Christian and Krishnan Hindu conception of the Universal Absolute Supreme Being; and Shaivite Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist apprehension of the Destroyer (meaning also Consummator), Unconditioned Absolute, or Spirit of All That Is and is not. Together with their variations and combinations in other major religions, these religious ideas reflect and express our collective understanding of God, in an expanded concept of the Holy Trinity.

The Trinity Absolute is portrayed in the logic of world religions, as follows:
  1. Muslims and Jews may be said to worship only the first person of the Trinity, i.e. the existential Deity Absolute Creator, known as Allah or Yhwh, Abba or Father (as Jesus called him), Brahma, and other names; represented by Gabriel (Executive Archangel), Muhammad and Moses (mighty messenger prophets), and others.
  2. Christians and Krishnan Hindus may be said to worship the first person through a second person, i.e. the experiential Universe or "Universal” Absolute Supreme Being (Allsoul or Supersoul), called Son/Christ or Vishnu/Krishna; represented by Michael (Supreme Archangel), Jesus (teacher and savior of souls), and others. The Allsoul is that gestalt of personal human consciousness, which we expect will be the “body of Christ” (Mahdi, Messiah, Kalki or Maitreya) in the second coming – personified in history by Muhammad, Jesus Christ, Buddha (9th incarnation of Vishnu), and others.
  3. Shaivite Hindus, Buddhists, and Confucian-Taoists seem to venerate the synthesis of the first and second persons in a third person or appearance, ie. the Destiny Consummator of ultimate reality – unqualified Nirvana consciousness – associative Tao of All That Is – the absonite* Unconditioned Absolute Spirit “Synthesis of Source and Synthesis,”** who/which is logically expected to be Allah/Abba/Brahma glorified in and by union with the Supreme Being – represented in religions by Gabriel, Michael, and other Archangels, Mahadevas, Spiritpersons, etc., who may be included within the mysterious Holy Ghost.
Other strains of religion seem to be psychological variations on the third person, or possibly combinations and permutations of the members of the Trinity – all just different personality perspectives on the Same God. Taken together, the world’s major religions give us at least two insights into the first person of this thrice-personal One God, two perceptions of the second person, and at least three glimpses of the third.
  • The ever-mysterious Holy Ghost or Unconditioned Spirit is neither absolutely infinite, nor absolutely finite, but absonite; meaning neither existential nor experiential, but their ultimate consummation; neither fully ideal nor totally real, but a middle path and grand synthesis of the superconscious and the conscious, in consciousness of the unconscious.
** This conception is so strong because somewhat as the Absonite Spirit is a synthesis of the spirit of the Absolute and the spirit of the Supreme, so it would seem that the evolving Supreme Being may himself also be a synthesis or “gestalt” of humanity with itself, in an Almighty Universe Allperson or Supersoul. Thus ultimately, the Absonite is their Unconditioned Absolute Coordinate Identity – the Spirit Synthesis of Source and Synthesis – the metaphysical Destiny Consummator of All That Is.

After the Hindu and Buddhist conceptions, perhaps the most subtle expression and comprehensive symbol of the 3rd person of the Trinity is the Tao (see book cover); involving the harmonization of “yin and yang” (great opposing ideas indentified in positive and negative, or otherwise contrasting terms). In the Taoist icon of yin and yang, the s-shaped line separating the black and white spaces may be interpreted as the Unconditioned “Middle Path” between condition and conditioned opposites, while the circle that encompasses them both suggests their synthesis in the Spirit of the “Great Way” or Tao of All That Is.

If the small black and white circles or “eyes” are taken to represent a nucleus of truth in both yin and yang, then the metaphysics of this symbolism fits nicely with the paradoxical mystery of the Christian Holy Ghost; who is neither the spirit of the one nor the spirit of the other, but the Glorified Spirit proceeding from both, taken altogether – as one entity – personally distinct from his co-equal, co-eternal and fully coordinate co-sponsors, who differentiate from him, as well as mingle and meld in him.

For more details, please see: www.religiouspluralism.ca

Samuel Stuart Maynes
 
How can we explain religious pluralism?
That’s a fairly easy question to answer. God discloses or reveals himself through all religions and cultures. That being said, all religions and cultures are imperfect mediums.
 
How can we explain religious pluralism?
If you read my Preview you will see that in an abstract and enlarged concept of Trinity, all major religions can be included without denigrating or diluting any of them. As I say on my Homepage, religious pluralism is an attitude which rejects a focus on immaterial differences, and instead emphasizes those beliefs held in common. True religious pluralism goes beyond toleration and religious liberty, and gives respect to core principles rather than contradictions and marginal issues. Pluralism is the engagement not the abandonment of distinctions.

No single point of view is the complete truth. However, there must be some form of creative pluralism or constructive interpretation that will allow all groups to agree to a “minimal consensus” of shared beliefs in a systematic unity. There must be some metaphysical systematic unity, because ultimately all truth (including science) must be part of the explanation of One God.

Religious variety provides a pleasant respite from the monotony of too much uniformity. Diversity is healthy and something to be celebrated. Pluralism also has the virtue of being a universal moral worldview. In the past, religious misunderstandings have caused immense grief, but civilization is rapidly approaching the point where the very survival of the world depends on overcoming anti-social religious conflicts, and the negative impacts of increasing population on the planet. The human race can no longer afford religious strife that divides people and disturbs urgent cooperation on mutual issues such as conservation and sharing of resources, combating climate change, stimulating healthy economic growth, etc.

Peace in the world requires peace among religions. Religious pluralism is a necessary paradigm shift whose time has come. Absent any better idea, the Trinity Absolute concept of One God in three phases or personae is the only adequate metaphysical vehicle necessary and sufficient for a real form of religious pluralism that is more than just lukewarm toleration and talking past one another.

Samuel Stuart Maynes
www.religiouspluralism.ca
 
Miracles are gifts from God who is free to bestow them anywhere and everywhere.
 
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