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Many years ago I used to listen to a weekly radio show hosted by Dr. Barker, who was one of the leaders of what is called religious science (not the same as Christian science or Scientology). It’s basically a religion of the mind that believes we are given the power by G-d to solve our problems by means of reason. It does not follow the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other religion; however, it incorporates the wisdom of all of them. Is there anyone out there who is a follower of religious science or knows about the current trends in this movement?
 
Many years ago I used to listen to a weekly radio show hosted by Dr. Barker, who was one of the leaders of what is called religious science (not the same as Christian science or Scientology). It’s basically a religion of the mind that believes we are given the power by G-d to solve our problems by means of reason. It does not follow the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other religion; however, it incorporates the wisdom of all of them. Is there anyone out there who is a follower of religious science or knows about the current trends in this movement?
Answer me this: how do you solve the problem of war with human reason?Man been trying 3000yr.Unless one uses Christ’s method of loving one another,do unto others as you do unto yourself,forgive one another as I have forgiven you there will never be peace.
 
Yes it does seem we have misguided men with guided missles doesn’t it.

There’s no doubt there’s a place and need for science and its work and effort in various fields are encouraged. But how quickly we put the creature before the creator.

How boldly we proclaim man is right and Gods wrong?

Man needs to get over himself, while he will continue to beat the how wonderful and important I am drum, the fact is by large, man is pretty much insignificant.

How many believe truly we live by Gods mercy alone moment by moment? When we really start breaking down the statistics, they become very slim. Its no wonder we are in a mess.

I see no solution but through God. And the faster man wakes to this truth the faster the carnage will stop. And with 20% belief we’ll recieve that same in return. Its simply not good enough.

God Bless, Gary
 
Yes it does seem we have misguided men with guided missles doesn’t it.

There’s no doubt there’s a place and need for science and its work and effort in various fields are encouraged. But how quickly we put the creature before the creator.

How boldly we proclaim man is right and Gods wrong?

Man needs to get over himself, while he will continue to beat the how wonderful and important I am drum, the fact is by large, man is pretty much insignificant.

How many believe truly we live by Gods mercy alone moment by moment? When we really start breaking down the statistics, they become very slim. Its no wonder we are in a mess.

I see no solution but through God. And the faster man wakes to this truth the faster the carnage will stop. And with 20% belief we’ll recieve that same in return. Its simply not good enough.

God Bless, Gary
Gary, we can’t be as insignificant as you say if G-d revealed Himself and gave his Law (according to Jews and Christians) and his Son (according to Christians) to us humans among all the other creatures on our little Earth amidst all the other planets, solar systems, galaxies, and universes (there may be more than one according to some astrophysicists). That in itself says a lot regarding our arrogance. Anyway, I’m not suggesting I believe or follow “religious science,” any more than I believe or follow Catholicism; only that I find religious science (and Catholicism) interesting enough to learn about. Despite the name, it is hardly based on the scientific method. My original question was whether anyone ever heard of it or knows about what is happening in the movement currently.
 
Man needs to get over himself, while he will continue to beat the how wonderful and important I am drum, the fact is by large, man is pretty much insignificant.

God Bless, Gary
My dear friend Gary. It’s good to hear from you again. We are wonderful and we are important. Every particle, part and parcel is as important as the other. The whole is contained in it’s parts, and in each part, the whole. God is no frustrated huckster who makes things that are of no worth or that run amok to His disappointment. It is all of worth, and we are no less or more a part of it.

Your friend,
Sufjon
 
Yes it does seem we have misguided men with guided missles doesn’t it.

There’s no doubt there’s a place and need for science and its work and effort in various fields are encouraged. But how quickly we put the creature before the creator.

How boldly we proclaim man is right and Gods wrong?

Man needs to get over himself, while he will continue to beat the how wonderful and important I am drum, the fact is by large, man is pretty much insignificant.

How many believe truly we live by Gods mercy alone moment by moment? When we really start breaking down the statistics, they become very slim. Its no wonder we are in a mess.

I see no solution but through God. And the faster man wakes to this truth the faster the carnage will stop. And with 20% belief we’ll recieve that same in return. Its simply not good enough.

God Bless, Gary
I forgot to tell you, Gary, that I love the play on words in your first statement here. And I also agree with you, which, in itself, is a small miracle!
 
Many years ago I used to listen to a weekly radio show hosted by Dr. Barker, who was one of the leaders of what is called religious science (not the same as Christian science or Scientology). It’s basically a religion of the mind that believes we are given the power by G-d to solve our problems by means of reason. It does not follow the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other religion; however, it incorporates the wisdom of all of them. Is there anyone out there who is a follower of religious science or knows about the current trends in this movement?
Actually, I think the original Christian Science teacher was Mary Baker Eddy. Among her students were Charles Fillmore, who went on to start the Unity churches, and Ernest Holmes, who went on to start the Religious Science (Science of Mind) churches. This was all in the early 1900’s. I would beg to differ that “it”, i.e., what you’re describing doesn’t follow Christianity per se, because Unity churches actually do refer to themselves as “School of Practical Christianity” and Religious Science churches utilize some Judaic and Buddhist concepts:

This is a Unity church:
unitytucson.com/about-unity/our-church/

This is a Religious Science church:
creativelivingfellowship.com/

I am quite familiar with both Unity and Religious Science and can assure you that many Unity and RS folks would take great offense at being told they don’t agree with any Judeo-Christian concepts. Might you be thinking of the Bahai’s?
 
Answer me this: how do you solve the problem of war with human reason?Man been trying 3000yr.Unless one uses Christ’s method of loving one another,do unto others as you do unto yourself,forgive one another as I have forgiven you there will never be peace.
I don’t believe reason and love are mutually exclusive, and religious science, to my knowledge, does not exclude loving one another. Unfortunately, neither “method” of peace has met with much success throughout history.
 
Actually, I think the original Christian Science teacher was Mary Baker Eddy. Among her students were Charles Fillmore, who went on to start the Unity churches, and Ernest Holmes, who went on to start the Religious Science (Science of Mind) churches. This was all in the early 1900’s. I would beg to differ that “it”, i.e., what you’re describing doesn’t follow Christianity per se, because Unity churches actually do refer to themselves as “School of Practical Christianity” and Religious Science churches utilize some Judaic and Buddhist concepts:

This is a Unity church:
unitytucson.com/about-unity/our-church/

This is a Religious Science church:
creativelivingfellowship.com/

I am quite familiar with both Unity and Religious Science and can assure you that many Unity and RS folks would take great offense at being told they don’t agree with any Judeo-Christian concepts. Might you be thinking of the Bahai’s?
Thank you for the information and links. I’m not familiar with Unity churches, but from what I understand, religious scientists do not think of themselves as Christians or any other religious group. However, as my original post indicates, they do agree with and incorporate many of the great moral principles of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and so on. However, they do not follow specific doctrines or dogma of any religious group. By the way, I specifically recall a funny example of the science of mind in action that Raymond Barker mentioned in one of his sermons. He described a woman who had come to see him (perhaps of the Christian Science faith, who do not believe in medication), complaining of interminable headaches. She told Dr. Barker that she prayed and prayed but the headache would not lift and asked for his advice. He replied: “Why don’t you take an aspirin?” I also remember Dr. Barker’s talking about what he called “healthy lust,” claiming that life would be so boring without any lust. He was a firm denier of guilt, which he felt exerted a negative influence on the rational mind. And the science of the mind movement does not believe in a Triune G-d. At the same time, it may be the case that individual members carry with them their own religious beliefs and customs (somewhat similar to Unitarians). Thanks again for the links, which I will explore.
 
I don’t believe reason and love are mutually exclusive, and religious science, to my knowledge, does not exclude loving one another. Unfortunately, neither “method” of peace has met with much success throughout history.
neither do I.In your OP you stated religious science believe God man the ability to solve problems with human reason.Doesn"t man try to stop war through human reason?Doesn’t man try to eliminate abortion by using contraception?I even heard that California wants to legalize weed because that can’t stop it so they might as well tax it .Does man ever solve any problem by human reason without God’s help?
 
neither do I.In your OP you stated religious science believe God man the ability to solve problems with human reason.Doesn"t man try to stop war through human reason?Doesn’t man try to eliminate abortion by using contraception?I even heard that California wants to legalize weed because that can’t stop it so they might as well tax it .Does man ever solve any problem by human reason without God’s help?
Perhaps human reason is the means God has given by which we are to help ourselves.

Your friend,
Sufjon
 
Perhaps human reason is the means God has given by which we are to help ourselves.

Your friend,
Sufjon
when Adam left the garden his human reason enabled him to survive.But he was never intended to go it alone.God hadn’t abandoned him.
 
Many years ago I used to listen to a weekly radio show hosted by Dr. Barker, who was one of the leaders of what is called religious science (not the same as Christian science or Scientology). It’s basically a religion of the mind that believes we are given the power by G-d to solve our problems by means of reason. It does not follow the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other religion; however, it incorporates the wisdom of all of them. Is there anyone out there who is a follower of religious science or knows about the current trends in this movement?
Are you referring to Religious Science, or Science of Mind started by a man named Ernest Holmes? I believe it was in the 1920s or so?

If you are referring to that, then they are a product of the New Thought movement and are quite similar to Christian Science founded by Mary Baker Eddy, and the Unity School of Christianity founded by Charles and Myrtle Fillmoore.

Sorry, I didn’t see Havana post information about this already! On a side note, you can say all of these groups had their start with a man named Phineas Quimby… he revived a lot of the ideas which all 3 groups are founded off of.
 
Actually, I think the original Christian Science teacher was Mary Baker Eddy. Among her students were Charles Fillmore, who went on to start the Unity churches, and Ernest Holmes, who went on to start the Religious Science (Science of Mind) churches. This was all in the early 1900’s. I would beg to differ that “it”, i.e., what you’re describing doesn’t follow Christianity per se, because Unity churches actually do refer to themselves as “School of Practical Christianity” and Religious Science churches utilize some Judaic and Buddhist concepts:

This is a Unity church:
unitytucson.com/about-unity/our-church/

This is a Religious Science church:
creativelivingfellowship.com/

I am quite familiar with both Unity and Religious Science and can assure you that many Unity and RS folks would take great offense at being told they don’t agree with any Judeo-Christian concepts. Might you be thinking of the Bahai’s?
I am sort of familiar with Unity and Religious Science teaching (Unity) and even was quite friendly with one of its adherents (Unity) some years ago. According to what I read from one of the adherents of RS, Religious Science (which sort of embraces Unity concepts and New thought concepts as well) is not really Christianity, since they tend to see Christ more as a great teacher and enlightened being than as the Son Of God. They also veer very close to New Age teachings and thoughts.

They also tend to (not all of them, but most of them) deny the Trinity. Like I heard a Protestant Apologist say last year--------“If they deny the Trinity, it’s a cult.”😃
 
Thank you for the information and links. I’m not familiar with Unity churches, but from what I understand, religious scientists do not think of themselves as Christians or any other religious group. However, as my original post indicates, they do agree with and incorporate many of the great moral principles of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and so on. However, they do not follow specific doctrines or dogma of any religious group. By the way, I specifically recall a funny example of the science of mind in action that Raymond Barker mentioned in one of his sermons. He described a woman who had come to see him (perhaps of the Christian Science faith, who do not believe in medication), complaining of interminable headaches. She told Dr. Barker that she prayed and prayed but the headache would not lift and asked for his advice. He replied: “Why don’t you take an aspirin?” I also remember Dr. Barker’s talking about what he called “healthy lust,” claiming that life would be so boring without any lust. He was a firm denier of guilt, which he felt exerted a negative influence on the rational mind. And the science of the mind movement does not believe in a Triune G-d. At the same time, it may be the case that individual members carry with them their own religious beliefs and customs (somewhat similar to Unitarians). Thanks again for the links, which I will explore.
Yes, that correlates with my above post.
 
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