Religious Vegetarianism

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Unfortunately most people order meat cooked medium rare, which is full of blood !!!
No, it’s not blood. Beef is bled out before butchering.

Its Myoglobin. Myoglobin is an oxygen holding protein found only in the muscular tissues. It is like haemoglobin, found in the red blood cells, both in structure and functions. In fact, the reason that some meat is red (beef/pork) and some is white (chicken/turkey) is because of the difference in myoglobin levels.

goarticles.com/article/Why-A-Rare-Steak-Does-Not-Contain-Any-Blood/7879688/
 
No, it’s not blood. Beef is bled out before butchering.

Its Myoglobin. Myoglobin is an oxygen holding protein found only in the muscular tissues. It is like haemoglobin, found in the red blood cells, both in structure and functions. In fact, the reason that some meat is red (beef/pork) and some is white (chicken/turkey) is because of the difference in myoglobin levels.

goarticles.com/article/Why-A-Rare-Steak-Does-Not-Contain-Any-Blood/7879688/
🙂 Thank you Miriam for the clarification on that.

However, does that mean that any meat that had been prepared (slaughtered) according to Kosher /Islamic way is 100% free from blood? doesn’t some blood still be found between the meat structure?
 
🙂 Thank you Miriam for the clarification on that.

However, does that mean that any meat that had been prepared (slaughtered) according to Kosher /Islamic way is 100% free from blood? doesn’t some blood still be found between the meat structure?
Perhaps some is still there and it is not 100% free. But I don’t worry about that. I am a semi-meatatarian. I don’t eat only meat but meatatarians are those who do.
 
Cistercian (Trappist) monks do not eat mammals nor birds. They do eat seafood. They only eat meat and fowl if they have been sick or had surgery and need the extra protein.

I think all Benedictine monastics are this way but I know for sure that the Cistercians are.

-Tim-
 
Perhaps some is still there and it is not 100% free.
That is not good. 😦

However, your allergy to the fibrous vegetables has inspired me that it could be a another reason for GOD allowing humans to consume meat after 1656 years of vegetarianism. 👍
 
Humans were vegetarians from the creation till the flood (around 1656 years), GOD said in (Genesis 1:29-30) that all creatures including humans and animals will have green plant for food.

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But after His crucifixion, I personally think no more souls should be wasted on anything including our food (as possible as we can), I think the less of the animal blood in a person the more pure the soul becomes.

May the LORD be with all those pure and kind in spirit…
“17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and so passes on? 18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man” Mt 15:11

After having quoted this, I do not mean that we should not care for what we eat. In fact, the food that we eat does not make us impure within, but can make us sick!!😃

Since this body that God has given us is His Temple, we should keep it clean!!, not sick. If people knew all the sicknesses that come through eating meat they will stop it all together. Nothing to do with being more pure or closer to God, but with been more healthy and so being able to serve God better.

And why the Church does not teaches what we should eat? Because each person is different, you have to learn by yourself what is good for you and what not. And since it is more important to have the heart in the right place, to not to have bad or impure thoughts, or to act unjustly, this is then the line taken by the Church.

So let us change first within.

In the love of Christ,
Gloria

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Some Rastafarian’s don’t eat meat am I right? I seem to remember they have a special diet and abstain from meat all together.
 
Listen to the words of the Apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 4:1-5.

Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the last times some will turn away from the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and demonic instructions through the hypocrisy of liars with branded consciences. They forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected when received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the invocation of God in prayer.

St. Paul speaks of those who require abstention from meat, implicating such teaching with demonic instructions. Meat was given to man for his nourishment and enjoyment. Rejecting this gift as unholy is an insult directly to God.
 
Listen to the words of the Apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 4:1-5.

Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the last times some will turn away from the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and demonic instructions through the hypocrisy of liars with branded consciences. They forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected when received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the invocation of God in prayer.

St. Paul speaks of those who require abstention from meat, implicating such teaching with demonic instructions. Meat was given to man for his nourishment and enjoyment. Rejecting this gift as unholy is an insult directly to God.
“… who forbid marriage and enjoin abstinence from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth”

Dear QND, for me it is very clearly what the demons will be teaching:** to forbid** these things, foods and marriage, with the pretense that this will bring you closer to God. This is the problem: TO FORBID

I feel that particularly he is referring to how the Jews have their dietary laws and think they are pleasing God by keeping them. Exactly you have the account of the mother and her children who refuse to eat pig to keep the laws of God, and they were killed, and the Jews call them ‘martyrs’. Martyrs, because you think God do not wants you to eat something and you died for it? ** NO**. “62 But many in Israel stood firm and were resolved in their hearts not to eat unclean food. 63 They chose to die rather than to be defiled by food” 1 Macc 1:62-63 **Saint Paul wants to be very clear on this. Nothing to do with your religion what you eat. **

Saint Paul even says about marriage:

“Are you free from a wife? Do not seek marriage.” 1 Cor 7:7

“So that he who marries his betrothed does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better” 1 Cor 7:38

Therefore are we to think that a demon is
teaching through Saint Paul?
:bigyikes:** NO**
He is not forbidding, he is suggesting because of our lack of self control.

“For everything created by God is good, to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth”

If you know the truth, you will realize that nothing that you eat (even meat sacrificed to idols -even for money-) will make you impure, as I said in my post #27, but that does not take away that you may get sick.

Let me put it in now-a-days problem. If you like coca-cola and you drink (even the diet one) 10 or so a day, and you become obese. Are you going to blame God for your obesity even though you were thanking God for the drink every time you had one? :confused:

If you like to eat sweets and have so many cakes a day and you become diabetic, are you going to blame God again?🍰

If you like to drink alcohol, smoke, etc., and when you get cancer in the longs, are you going to blame God for it? :read::hey_bud:🍕

If you eat meat every day, because you enjoy it, and then you have high blood presure, cardiac problems, cancers somewhere, etc., are you going to blame God?

Thank God for what you eat, if you can see His hand that made it: I really I can not see how I can thank God for a chocolate, or processed chips in bags, apart from all the chemicals to keep them from rotting? What about a King’s burger? Who knows what is made of, all the fat and meat of who knows what? And then get my triglycerides high to the top, and blame God for that??? Why:confused:
I enjoy eating all these things and I gave thanks for them to God. Is He playing a trick with me??? Why I got sick?? :stretcher:

The answer is:** do not go to the priest to ask him what is better for you to eat, he cares about your soul. If you want to be more healthy, and the truth has not shown you how, then go to the dietitian**. 😃

In the love of the truth,
Gloria

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Listen to the words of the Apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 4:1-5.

Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the last times some will turn away from the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and demonic instructions through the hypocrisy of liars with branded consciences. They forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected when received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the invocation of God in prayer.

St. Paul speaks of those who require abstention from meat, implicating such teaching with demonic instructions. Meat was given to man for his nourishment and enjoyment. Rejecting this gift as unholy is an insult directly to God.
I personally would use this from scripture rather than directly accuse anyone as rejecting a gift as unholy and an insult directly to God.

Do Not Cause Another to Stumble

13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.[a] 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.**

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+14%3A13-23&version=ESV**
 
“17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and so passes on? 18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man” Mt 15:11

After having quoted this, I do not mean that we should not care for what we eat. In fact, the food that we eat does not make us impure within, but can make us sick!!😃

Since this body that God has given us is His Temple, we should keep it clean!!, not sick. If people knew all the sicknesses that come through eating meat they will stop it all together. Nothing to do with being more pure or closer to God, but with been more healthy and so being able to serve God better.

And why the Church does not teaches what we should eat? Because each person is different, you have to learn by yourself what is good for you and what not. And since it is more important to have the heart in the right place, to not to have bad or impure thoughts, or to act unjustly, this is then the line taken by the Church.

So let us change first within.

In the love of Christ,
Gloria

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Choosing to become vegan/vegetarian does come from within, it comes from the heart. 🙂
 
Are you sure about that! did you confirm that by a doctor?

Because people had lived for over 1656 years without meat…
This depends on where they lived. Try having some semblance of vegetable gardens or rice and wheat fields in the Arctic.
People will eat whatever is available to survive. This is why you don’t see vegetarian Inuit or Eskimos. Vegetarianism is more of an anomaly.
 
Choosing to become vegan/vegetarian does come from within, it comes from the heart. 🙂
Let me say Simple, that I think it comes more from reason than from the heart. You can reason how much food you need to live and maintain healthy your body. I do not think these thoughts come from the heart 😉

In the love of Christ,
Gloria

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For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

-Romans 14:26
 
For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

-Romans 14:26
The quote you mean is Romans 14:2, do not worry happens. But let me add:

“He also who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; while he who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. None of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself.” Rom 14:6-7

👍 So let me quote back Simpe because this is the truth about food relating it to religion:
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17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit Rom 14:17 . (…)
But as for food relating it to health, this is another matter. 😃

So let me add also that** I do not believe in such a thing as the name of this thread**:
Religious Vegetarianism, this is not a Christian statement :tsktsk: Nothing to do with the Kingdom of God. You can be a vegetarian because it does good to your health, but not to your believes 😉

In the love of God,
Gloria

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I have not been very serious in this thread, but I think it is clear from Paul’s letters that Christian morality does not favor vegetarianism over eating meat.
 
I have not been very serious in this thread, but I think it is clear from Paul’s letters that Christian morality does not favor vegetarianism over eating meat.
As a matter of religion, NO but as a matter of health why not!!! 😃

“…it is right not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that makes your brother stumble” Rm 14:21 👍

In the love of Christ,
Gloria

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Let me say Simple, that I think it comes more from reason than from the heart. You can reason how much food you need to live and maintain healthy your body. I do not think these thoughts come from the heart 😉

In the love of Christ,
Gloria

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Well your intitled to your opinion as am I right?

My decision to stop eating meat/fish was nothing to do with my health or God. It came from within, from my compassion for animals. I don’t think I’m any closer to God in this decision, nor are people who consume meat/fish any less closer to God.

It’s personal choice after all is said and done.

Simpleas 🙂
 
Well your intitled to your opinion as am I right?

My decision to stop eating meat/fish was nothing to do with my health or God. It came from within, from my compassion for animals. I don’t think I’m any closer to God in this decision, nor are people who consume meat/fish any less closer to God.

It’s personal choice after all is said and done.

Simpleas 🙂
Very nice, just do not let your compassion for animals cause you to be unhealthy. Make sure you eat plenty nuts every day. 😃

Gloria

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