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fakename
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When trying to remember these prayers are we to remember every specific word used? Basically what are we supposed to remember?
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GKCT
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I pretty much remember both of them. But sometimes get mixed up because with the Rosary we say the Apostle’s Creed every day; and the Nicene only on Sunday. But manage to muddle through. God know I try! 
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PJM
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The CREEDS are a summation of our Catholic beliefs. Each point ia at least a Doctrine, so EVERY Catholic ought certainly to know BOTH the Words [EVEN IF READ and not menorized], AND what it is that we Profess and COMMIT to God to believe.
God Bless,
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TeenageConvert
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Yes, you’re supposed to learn each word.
I learned the apostle’s creed pretty easily, by saying the rosary every day so I know it by heart.
Took my longer to memorize the Nicene creed because I was so used to the apostle’s creed and I’d been saying it long before I started going to mass, but I’ve got it memorized as well.
I learned the apostle’s creed pretty easily, by saying the rosary every day so I know it by heart.
Took my longer to memorize the Nicene creed because I was so used to the apostle’s creed and I’d been saying it long before I started going to mass, but I’ve got it memorized as well.
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Elizium23
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I would like to point out that it is not worth memorizing the “old” versions of the Creeds at this point. The new English translation of the Roman Missal is coming and will be in full use by Advent of this year. You should go to the USCCB website and study the new versions of each Creed so that you can learn them correctly for the future.
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fakename
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your supposed to learn each word but even the "the"s and the "and"s or the "of"s?
Also, although I know most of the creeds I still sometimes mistake the "to"s or "of"s, so in what sense have I really memorized it?
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puzzleannie
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there is no obligation to memorize any prayer and in any case the best way to do it is simply pray it regularly, with a written aid if necessary. Since some wording for the Nicene Creed for instant will change this year, I would not try to memorize it, or other Mass prayers, now. It certainly is helpful to memorize the rosary prayers, but that will come with repetition.
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fakename
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but then people are saying that you have to memorize them -an unequivocal opposition to your position.
So please explain then.
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thistle
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That is not correct. There is no such Church instruction. We are not obliged to memorise the Creeds.
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puzzleannie
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which people?
not it is not sin to fail to memorize your prayers, yes it makes it easier to pray, and if you are going to memorize them, memorize every word because even the wrong preposition or pronoun can change the meaning. What is less than helpful is trying to memorize a prayer as if it were your spelling words or times tables. Learn the prayers by praying the prayers. you do understand there are several versions of some common prayers depending on when they were translated, and what source you are using.
look up unequivocal in the dictionary it does not mean opposite, it means firm and unchanging
ps. memorizing prayers is not and never has been a requirement for receiving initiation sacraments and if my professional colleague claims it is, refer her to your bishop. why is this being discussed as a moral issue when their is no obligation or sin involved?
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Elizium23
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It seems to me that a faithful Catholic, desiring to keep his nose out of a Missal for the rest of his life, should endeavor to learn the responses and prayers used in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass every day in every nation of the world. I can also assure you that it was compulsory for my First Communion class that we learn the Nicene Creed, right along with how to properly receive Holy Communion.
I am just amazed at what Catholics are willing to classify as “optional” these days - the Sign of the Cross, intercessory prayer to saints, making responses at Mass, singing at Mass - if these things are optional, what’s left to be compulsory?!
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Newbie2
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Good point.
I’d suggest just starting on the first line before going on. When you have it down, add the second, and so on. There is a LOT of meaning in all the words when you break it down.
I think that T was pointing out that such memorization is not obligatory, not that it is not a very, very good idea.
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PJM
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH:thumbsup:
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thistle
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Correct.Good point.
I’d suggest just starting on the first line before going on. When you have it down, add the second, and so on. There is a LOT of meaning in all the words when you break it down.
**I think that T was pointing out that such memorization is not obligatory, not that it is not a very, very good idea. **
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fakename
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Still, to not memorize them would be commiting the sin of not seeking out the Church’s teachings wouldn’t it?
Why wouldn’t it?
Why wouldn’t it?
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thistle
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Don’t be ridiculous. On that basis everyone would have to memorise the entire Catechism of the Catholic Church. To know what the Church teaches you don’t have to memorise it!!!
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fakename
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still, everything you know is in your memory, so if something is outside of your memory than it isn’t something you know.
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thistle
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Memorise means being able to learn by heart something you have read or heard and be able to recite it word for word.
It does not simply mean having a knowledge of.
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