Repeat after me..."I will be a Patron Saint"

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Like you all… I am trying hard to be light and salt in this world - and often invoke certain Saints to guide and help me. Today as I was praying on my daily 4 mile run it occured to me that I could also be a Saint… two particular groups of people came to mind that I pray for now. One is a group with whom I share suffering. One is a social group
It also occured to me that perhaps I could be the patron saint of both of these groups one day, if I were to fully cooperate with the graces Our Lord sends me. It actually hit me like a lightening bolt - because I thought perhaps being the patron of one of these groups would certainly increase my suffering in that area. But maybe this is the Lord’s intention?

My question is, How will you become a Saint? Who will you be a patron saint of someday? How are your present sufferings and state in life related to the co-redemption of souls?
Begin to pray for that group of people today, and use all the graces Our Lord sends to be light and salt to those people. Offer your sufferings for them.
Peace…
 
I really meant to post this message in Spirituality… Mods - move this if you see appropriate. 🙂

Ridesawhitehorse ~~~
 
I think striving specifically to become a Saint is self serving and defeats the mechanism by which one would be recommended for Sainthood.

I think I see your point here, just be careful that you don’t start doing things with the intention of becoming a Saint. You should be helping others just because it’s the right thing to do. Not because you get something out of it. Selfless acts of charity and love. They should come naturally, without thought. You should strive to become the type of person who does not realize how selfless, charitable, and loving they really are. Then you might be on the road to Sainthood. See the difference?
 
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pira114:
I think striving specifically to become a Saint is self serving and defeats the mechanism by which one would be recommended for Sainthood.

I think I see your point here, just be careful that you don’t start doing things with the intention of becoming a Saint. You should be helping others just because it’s the right thing to do. Not because you get something out of it. Selfless acts of charity and love. They should come naturally, without thought. You should strive to become the type of person who does not realize how selfless, charitable, and loving they really are. Then you might be on the road to Sainthood. See the difference?
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Are you kidding? “striving to become a Saint is self-serving”?..
Maybe you don’t realize it, but all the redeemed in Heaven ARE saints. And got there because of their love for God and love for people. Wanting to show that to the world. Many Saints wanted to be saints by the example of other saints. That is why we have saints. Thats what God puts us here for.
I sincerely doubt that anyone attains that sort of holiness without without effort or thought! Wanting to be a saint and become holy for the sake of others is not self serving. It is serving the Kingdome of God, and loving to your neighbor.
I do see the difference you describe… but I don’t agree with you. If you think it is just showing off or being holier then thou, or trying to get more brownie points in heaven - well you are wrong. It is just about fulfilling Gods perfect plan for your life.
Like Mother Angelica says… “We are all called to become Saints, don’t miss out on the opportunity”
 
I remember when i was younger, my gram used to tell me that i could be a saint because I recieved three miracles. she was joking obviously…but I was determined! she said one was that I was born I was 2 months premeture…my mother smoked was young…etc. the second was that an 'angel cleaned my room for me heh aka gram* and that an angel also cleaned up my beanie babies…but then again I also used to go to people preaching about Mary. Hah I was a cute little child. It’d be lovely to be a saint, but I’m so far away from it.
 
By definition, you cannot commit a selfless act if you are conscious the reason you are doing it is to gain something.

In other words, if you do something good to try and become a Saint, it is not selfless and it is self serving. If you do something good just because it’s the right thing to do and that’s part of who you are, then it’s selfless and not self serving.

I wasn’t saying that you are not doing good things for right reasons. I was just pointing out that commiting a selfless act to gain something is self defeating.
 
if i become a saint, id be the patron of “those who second guess themselves all the time” lol
 
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pira114:
By definition, you cannot commit a selfless act if you are conscious the reason you are doing it is to gain something.

In other words, if you do something good to try and become a Saint, it is not selfless and it is self serving. If you do something good just because it’s the right thing to do and that’s part of who you are, then it’s selfless and not self serving.

I wasn’t saying that you are not doing good things for right reasons. I was just pointing out that commiting a selfless act to gain something is self defeating.
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Pira114 is working on the assumption that the desire to become a saint is self serving, but a saint is one who serves God not self. The right thing to do is cooperate with God in becoming holy, and a holy person will give all the glory back to God.
 
Of suffering and to achieve this I require God’s grace to be cheerful about suffering myself and generous in offering suffering for others and their souls as well as my own.
 
I think striving specifically to become a Saint is self serving and defeats the mechanism by which one would be recommended for Sainthood.
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I feel ridesawhitehorse and pira114 misunderstand one another. They are both correct.

I think that what pira114 is trying to say is that there is a spiritual danger in striving for formal canonization to Sainthood. These dangers feed self-serving vices such as pride, etc… We shouldn’t desire fame.

Ridesawhitehorse is probably not striving for this kind of famous sainthood, pira114. Rather, I perceive he or she is striving to become part of the Church Triumphant, recognized or not. There is nothing wrong with striving to be a saint—but striving to be recognized by the Church Militant as a saint has its dangers. We shouldn’t pursue anything that feeds the ego, such as notoriety.

The most likely candidates for formal canonization are probably those souls who’d much rather remain anonymous servants of God, whose every act is derived only from a desire to Glorify their Beloved, from love. Such souls may even deliberately try to hide themselves from the world. Whether or not they succeed in hiding themselves is not for them to decide.

Anonymity of a holy soul is in God’s Will for some, but not for all, for in each generation He chooses some souls for formal Canonization so as to become models for others in that particular generation. It is easier to imitate someone you can relate to. For instance, it would be difficult for someone like me, living in a rich, highly technologically advanced country such as America, to imitate St. Antony of the Desert. I’d find it easier to imitate someone like St. Padre Pio or even better, (if he’s ever canonized) Bishop Fulton Sheen. Bishop Sheen was an American.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

So go for it, ridesawhitehors! You strive for the greatest of all possible Goods.

God Bless!
 
Oh, and just for fun, if I ever become a Canonized Saint…

“I will be the Patron Saint for … people who tend to stick their feet in their mouths, Patron Saint for cats and Patron Saint for people who have trouble following the spelling rule ‘i before e except after c’.” 😉

LOL!!!
 
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