Replacing "Catholic" with "christian"????

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My boss is Lutheran, one day I was looking at his bulletin from his church and noticed their Apostle’s Creed. Instead of it saying, “I believe in the holy Catholic Church” it said, “I believe in the holy christian church” or something like that. I do know that instead of Catholic it said christian.

Is this allowed?? I mean, what do you guys think about this??

For me, well, my jaw almost hit the floor when I read it. Him and I have had many interesting conversations about our religions in the past, the differences between the two, etc. I just never knew that certain religions changed the Apostle’s Creed, I was astonished.
 
Well, I know that the Episcopalian and Methodist churches I’ve gone to have used “catholic” with a little “c”.

And as Baptists don’t use a Creed, well… we’ll never know. 😃
 
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Lorrie:
My boss is Lutheran, one day I was looking at his bulletin from his church and noticed their Apostle’s Creed. Instead of it saying, “I believe in the holy Catholic Church” it said, “I believe in the holy christian church” or something like that. I do know that instead of Catholic it said christian.

Is this allowed?? I mean, what do you guys think about this??

For me, well, my jaw almost hit the floor when I read it. Him and I have had many interesting conversations about our religions in the past, the differences between the two, etc. I just never knew that certain religions changed the Apostle’s Creed, I was astonished.
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This cuts to the core of what it means to be Protestant. To protest against the Catholic Church. Some want all reference to “Catholic” to be removed from everything even if it is not referencing the Church. Just one more example of Anti-Catholicism no matter how slight.

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I was brought up as ELCA Lutheran…yes, they replace “Catholic” with “Christian” in the Apostles creed…but they don’t do it with the Nicene creed, they leave it as “Catholic” there. Why they would change it in one and not the other, I have no idea --go figure!
 
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Well, I know that the Episcopalian and Methodist churches I’ve gone to have used “catholic” with a little “c”.

And as Baptists don’t use a Creed, well… we’ll never know. 😃
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the Apostles Creed, professed by Christians from the earliest days of the Church, and initially a profession used for initiation of new converts, uses small “c” for catholic because the meaning is the universal church, sanctified by Christ and handed on through the apostles. Catholic with a capital “C” is used when it is necessary to differentiate the Church founded by Jesus Christ from schismatic, heretic, or protestant denominations which broke off later in historical time from the Church. There have been denominations that did not use a credal statement, but most have always used the Apostle’s Creed. If any denomination chooses to change their credal statement from “catholic” to Christian, they are by implication denying that the Church is and always has been universal, and by extension denying that there is any unity at any level between the Catholic Church and denominations that call themselves Christian.
 
I’ve seen numerous Protestant sects change things and in particular the word “Christian” for “Catholic.” Protestants have been changing things for years to fit whatever whim and fancey fits them that day. Like someone just said, “does it surprise you?”

NO! I expect them to revise history as they have proven they do so well.
 

The obvious course of action would be to make an effort to find out what their reason for making this change is, instead of making guesses which may very well be wrong.​

To be Christian is arguably far more important than to be Catholic - Christ is after all the Lord of Christians. The title of Christian says this more clearly than does the title “Catholic”

As for changing the text of the creed: Rome accepted a change made in Spain in 589, and got round to insisting that the Spirit proceeds from the Son. To add the word “Filioque” to the creed is is much a change of text as the change being discussed in this thread - and the Orthodox like the Western change as much as Catholics like the Lutheran change. IOW, they regard it as wholly illegitimate; it was, after all, unilateral, and made without the authority of any council. ##
 
When I first saw that, it bothered me that MY CREED has been tampered with! I felt like it was violated, and in so doing it violated me. But I realized that a lot of the protestants did not make this change, it’s been passed to them by the ones who changed it. Some of them have no clue of the original. Maybe we can educate when we can—of course with Charity.

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Because of all the non-denominational ‘Christians’ I have met over the past few decades I can no longer relate to being called a Christian, but always identify my religion using the word ‘Catholic’.

If I say yes to being a Christian, I inevitably get caught up in a literal interpretation of the Bible being thrown at me and a lot of Catholic bashing, so I have gotten into the habit of always identifying myself as a Catholic, and more specifically a Roman Catholic.
 
I have come across this just once, recently, at the funeral of a Free Methodist pastor. (I am not sure if it was a Free Methodist church?–more of a small chapel…He was in a nursing home, this was where the chaplain held services).
I nearly fell over. I had never heard of such a thing before. When we said the creed, I said it with ‘catholic’; by the sound of the disunity of voices at that spot, as many people said it as intended as read it as printed.
I still don’t see the point of it. Other than just ignorance of the origin, I mean.
 
The point is not hard to see. These Protestants do believe in the “universal” church consisting of all true believers in Christ, but they do not believe that it is coextensive with the RCC. Since the word “catholic” is almost indistinguishable from “Catholic,” somebody just decided they were tired of explaining the difference, and consequently chose a word that would connote their meaning instantly.

Must they bear the label “anticatholic” for no more than daring to say that they are Protestants?
 
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