Report: "Christian photographer sues Virginia over law that may force him to service gay weddings."

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I’m fairly sure you already knew that I disagreed. Since then I’ve just been trying to point out that you already accept that there are things that are unenforced that are still true and are just arbitrarily dismissing rights from that standard.
 
Lara said:
On the other hand, a heterosexual couple can still make good by going to confession for contraception, sterilization or whatever other sin, and can still stay married.
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That potential doesn’t matter if they are currently in sin.
 
Can I ask for a show of hands?
Is there anyone here who believes that wedding photography is a human right that should be enforced by law?
 
Wedding photography is a luxury, most certainly not some human right. Ignorant on antidiscrimination law though
 
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Freddy:
I wasn’t aware that getting married was a sin
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Same-sex marriage is a sin… nobody is talking about heterosexual marriage, the OP specifically asked about a camera person at a same-sex wedding…

I’m assuming you haven’t read the thread?
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A homosexual act is considered a sin. I really wasn’t sure if getting married was simply rejected by the church or also classed as a sin.
 
If you mean legal as in regulated, usury (many student loans, car loans, mortgages count), prostitution in some places, etc, are all legal but sinful.

Bonus: false marriages after illicit divorce.
 
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Mythicalbio said:
If you mean legal as in regulated, usury (many student loans, car loans, mortgages count), prostitution in some places, etc, are all legal but sinful.

Bonus: false marriages after illicit divorce.
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OK, good point on the prostitution. That was an example I was struggling to think of. Initially thinking that something like that was simply not illegal as opposed to being legal. But one could open a legally operated brothel as a business.
 
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sealabeag:
It would be a sin, yeah, 100%.
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I’m trying to think of something else that is legal and considered a sin (as opposed to something that’s not illegal such as adultry).
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Should I mention the obvious? Abortion in some places. Euthanasia in some places. IVF.
 
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Freddy:
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sealabeag:
It would be a sin, yeah, 100%.
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I’m trying to think of something else that is legal and considered a sin (as opposed to something that’s not illegal such as adultry).
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Should I mention the obvious? Abortion in some places. Euthanasia in some places. IVF.
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I obviously missed my caffeine hit this morning. I must have had some mental block going on I think. Feeling pretty dumb at the moment…that wasn’t the sharpest question I’ve ever asked, was it.
 
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Freddy said:
I obviously missed my caffeine hit this morning. I must have had some mental block going on I think. Feeling pretty dumb at the moment…that wasn’t the sharpest question I’ve ever asked, was it.
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Haha it happens the best of us! I feel like that most of the time. 😋
 
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Does this define the first font of morality for this photographer?

Objective of the act: Photographically document an intrinsically evil event for the actors’ and unknown third parties celebratory purposes in the future.
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No naysayers? OK, good to go on then I suppose.

Now, substitute Satanic Mass Celebration for Gay Wedding as the intrinsically evil event. Doing so takes the hot-button gay issue out of the calculus. Can the state mandate Catholics to participate in a Black Mass? No.
 
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o_mlly:
Does this define the first font of morality for this photographer?

Objective of the act: Photographically document an intrinsically evil event for the actors’ and unknown third parties celebratory purposes in the future.
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No naysayers? OK, good to go on then I suppose.

Now, substitute Satanic Mass Celebration for Gay Wedding as the intrinsically evil event. Doing so takes the hot-button gay issue out of the calculus. Can the state mandate Catholics to participate in a Black Mass? No.
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Yes, the state can mandate Catholics to participate in a Black Mass. It doesn’t currently, but given enough political momentum it can happen.

It’s just a matter of time until the Church is compelled to use it’s property against it’s own will.
 
The State is physically capable of doing so, yes. It is not capable of doing so without violating both Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.
 
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Forced? Forced? how does it force?
Gun to his head? Arrested and thrown in jail?
 
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