Report: "Parents Outraged As London School Downgrades Jesus from ‘Lord’ To ‘Baby Boy’"

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I don’t like the word ‘outraged’ because the word is hyperinflated from so much use. I instead think of a line from the 1992 Aladdin: “I think I’m going to have a heart attack from not surprise”. A school applying a double standard towards Christianity vs Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism? Who could have a predicted 🙀
 
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If this is a public school, the kids are lucky they get to sing that at all. The song would be banned entirely in the public schools of most states.

Doesn’t the state Church of England have anything to say about this?
 
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The Church of England takes a largely non confrontational attitude to these things. They are the state Church of a very secular country.

The Church of England is in a bad state. More people attend Mass every Sunday in England than people attending CofE services.
 
“ According to the Christian Concern, headteacher Zakia Khatun at East London’s Whitehall Primary School, told students that the change was necessary so that “all pupils can participate in the celebration.”

Would there be much point in the “celebration” were he not Lord?

Of course, if the celebration is in the form of a concert, or a play, it isn’t necessary to have perfect congruence between the words of the song and the beliefs of the performers. If that’s a problem, some performers could drop out or take other roles.

One could ask whether those designing the performance ought not be free to change the words. Maybe, though may be the greater injustice.
 
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The school said “baby boy”?

How bold of the school to assume Their gender.
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I think the school was seeking to avoid having their kids sing a song with words that explicitly profess a religious belief. Of course, there was a time when we thought Christmas in its entirety did just that!
 
Although is was the C of E that tried to place the Lord’s Prayer in cinemas and then found cinema owners banned it.
 
I wonder if Zakia Khatun (headteacher) removes the word “Prophet” from any reference to the founder of Islam? Certainly in the UK the reference is generally used by public official and also in the media.
 
" Baby Boy"??? - wow their binary thinking is so medieval and divisive! 😏
 
Well, “Mary Did You Know” is kind of inaccurate anyways, doctrinally speaking.
 
I’m asking honestly. Please remember I have spent my whole life in the USA and I have absolutely no idea what a “state church” does or doesn’t do. We don’t have them here. It seems like a “state church” would be much more involved than the C of E currently seems to be. If it is not so involved, then why bother having a state church at all?
 
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Thanks for the explanation.
I continue to be very confused by the Church of England. Of all the Protestant denominations, it confuses me the most.
 
I am sorry that your relative did not like being called Protestant.

However, as an Irish-American Catholic, Anglicans are Protestants to me and my family.

In the USA in past centuries, if you had insinuated that an Episcopalian was a Catholic, he would probably have been outraged. Catholicism was the religion of lower class immigrants. Episcopalianism was the respectable faith practiced by the upper classes whose ancestors had come to USA many generations ago. They were happy to be called Protestants and usually didn’t mind being classed with the Presbyterians at least (they might have objected to being lumped in with Evangelicals).

I recently visited a historic old mining town in USA, the one made famous in the Sean Connery film “The Molly Maguires” which was filmed there. The Episcopalian church was at one end of the town, the wealthy end. They offered to let the Presbyterians use their church for worship, but the Presbyterians refused and built their own church next door to the Episcopalian one. The Catholic church was at the complete other end of the town, in the poorest part.
 
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Are there official songs celebrating Buddha,Vishnu, or Shiva in schools as “Lord”? Seems unlikely to me but I’m genuinely curious.

Having said that I don’t get the change to “boy” —once you’ve gone the direction of bringing a song about Jesus into school, you’re no longer separating religion from secular schooling. Changing the lyrics doesn’t seem to make much of a difference at this point. (But maybe this is a Church of England thing I don’t understand as an American…)
 
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