But I don’t think “do not deny” is the same as “Yes, I can confirm that the Holy Father met with Kim Davis.”
In that context it does seem to be a confirmation. Semantics I suppose.
You don’t reach out to lapsed Catholics by watering down doctrine. I knew it would be hell to pay when Liberals found out the Pope really was Catholic,
Right. It’s sort of a soft confirmation. I mean, he could have just come out and denied it if it hadn’t taken place. But then, he could have also said that he can confirm the meeting took place.
It’s time to move along. 
This. :sad_yes:
Francis has been pretty clear when it comes to Church teaching on social issues. Little was left to the imagination and those on the left with any knowledge of Pope Francis knew that. Francis, wisely, made the decision to focus on those issues which were not being discussed as widely (poverty, climate, treatment of elderly, war, et cetera) and that was what gave him his immense popularity.
The Pope bought the message of religious freedom. To make his point crystal clear about the abuse of religious freedom in the US he visited Kim Davis and the Little Sister of the Poor. He evidently disagrees with you about Kim Davis. He also evidently disagrees with you about the message he was sending on his visit.
I now believe he probably did meet with Kim Davis, though like you, I think it’s a bit presumptuous to believe he knew about her case prior to meeting her. He was probably briefed by some aides, etc. who thought it would be a good idea. Like you, with more than a billion Catholics to shepherd, I can’t see him following the case of one Pentecostal closely at all even though he cares for all people the world over. I do believe the CNN reporter who said the Pope said he was not familiar with her case at all.The Pope has Catholics from around the world on his mind. I think it’s a bit presumptuous to think that the U.S. news is worthy of more of his attention than what goes on in other parts of the world. With all that is going on in the world, I can’t see him following this case that closely if at all. We’re also talking about a man who has no computer in his office. So that it is all over social media in the U.S. doesn’t necessarily mean he is going to come across it.
I could be wrong, though.
I agree with you completely about Kim Davis. If she really wanted to make a sacrifice for her faith, she would have left her job, true. She wanted to have her cake and eat it, too.
I see we have went from “he didn’t meet with her” to “he didn’t know who he was meeting with”. Given his comments in his speech about religious liberty and his unscheduled meetings with Ms. Davis and Little Sisters of the poor it seems obvious he was familiar with her case-especially in light of his comments on conscientious objection on the plane home.
So when I refuse to do a tax return for someone who has income from abortion facilities it is your opinion I should shut my business down rather than just refuse to do them?
Indeed.
I am somewhat puzzled the Popes actions surprised so many people. The Church’s view on Homosexuality and homosexual marriage is well known. Did they really believe the Pope didn’t agree with the Church’s teachings on this matter?
I agree with everything you wrote. I don’t blame the Holy Father. He was an innocent victim. I don’t think he knows anything about Kim Davis and the way she used her position. I agree. What a shame. Next she’ll probably have a multimillion dollar book deal. I don’t really care, but I do care that she doesn’t drag our Pontiff into her schemes.
So the Pope was duped? Do you think he was also duped about AGW and immigration? Given his comments on the plane about conscientious objection to immoral laws it is obvious he knew exactly what he doing when he met Ms. Davis. Ms Davis was willing go to jail rather than compromise her religious beliefs. We should be praising this brave women as clearly the Pope did
So when you disagree with the Pope he has been “used” I have said all along that there would be hell to pay when the left realized the Pope really is Catholic.I truly hope this is a hoax. I don’t want it to have happened, I don’t want the Pope to have been used this way.
According to her lawyer, it was a 10 minute private meeting. I find that hard to believe, honestly.
As they said on CNN–thousands of people surrounding the Pope, cameras everywhere, millions of people watching on TV, and not a single person saw her? Maybe she was in disguise.
A brave woman would have resigned. She would have said, “I cannot, in good conscience, place my name in official endorsement on these certificates. I cannot fulfill the responsibilities I was sworn to perform. Therefore I resign from the office of <county clerk, whatever>.”
