Actually I agree with the Church that we are not required to obey unjust laws. We don’t lose out religious liberties when we go to work for the Govt or anyone else.
Because a “dutiful” Christian county clerk ‘should have’ refused to grant her a new marriage license seeing as she was ‘defiling’ the definition of marriage.
Four times before she became a practicing Christian. Are we surprised that a non-Christian acted un-Christianlike? In any case, you know this has no bearing on the issue at hand; religious freedom. Please be above ad hominem. If the Pope saw fit to meet with her, (and if Christ could forgive the woman at the well) shouldn’t you at least care enough about her to refrain from immediately censuring her as an adulterer?
Frankly, yes. People may be free to indulge in mortal gladiatorial combat in some cultures, but we should not advocate the killing of another human being for entertainment. We should, and rightly do, limit that ‘freedom.’
If a clerk had refused to do so because of religious convictions I would support her. The law says employers must make a reasonable accommodation for an employees religious beliefs. It appears that is what has been done in Ms. Davis’s case. Too bad they resorted to jailing her first
Also note that there are no Divorcé Pride Parades or agitation to fire people for their views on divorce. When the church organist (and my friend) at my former parish was going through music school he found himself summoned before a star-chamber of faculty who proceeded to threaten his academic career if he didn’t attend sensitivity training. His offence? When at a student/faculty meeting one of the professors announced he was going transgender and received a standing ovation, my friend and a few others declined to join in.
[We may not be far from it…](http://sdcitybeat.com/article-14010-wearing-my-divorce-with-pride.html)
I work in the academic world. I’ve experienced this ostracization first hand. Worst part? I’m only 26. My hopes for advancement (and a comfortable life for my family) rely on my ability to appear to conform.
Sadly, my friend being rather young and successfully intimidated, took the sensitivity class so he could get on with his life. I have no doubt that if he had gone outside the department to someone like the dean of men, he could have nip the nonsense in the bud. Granted, the faculty could continue to make his life difficult and they did even though he took the class. Remember that folks. There is NO forgiveness in the brain-dead ersatz religion of SocJus. Their only motto is a boot stamping a human face forever.
Not all that long ago, however, a church organist who was discovered to be gay would probably have been fired (and still would be in some churches). So don’t pretend that religious conservatives have always been tolerant while the other side is intolerant.
They wouldn’t be fired unless they were openly homosexual. Then they would be fired just as an organist who was openly living an adulterous lifestyle would be. There is no requirement we be tolerant of sin. in fact the opposite is true. We should hate sin, fight sin and do everything we can to help sinners repent.Not all that long ago, however, a church organist who was discovered to be gay would probably have been fired (and still would be in some churches). So don’t pretend that religious conservatives have always been tolerant while the other side is intolerant.
Nice leg pull, but in addition to being a non-responsive distracting tu quoque fallacy is also ignorantly wrongheaded as my friend is not in any substantial sense a conservative. The defenders of the indefensible devour indiscriminately. It’s a feature, not a bug.Not all that long ago, however, a church organist who was discovered to be gay would probably have been fired (and still would be in some churches). So don’t pretend that religious conservatives have always been tolerant while the other side is intolerant.
I actually know of church organists who did not advertise the fact that they were gay but whose sexual orientation nevertheless was found out who were fired as a result. And how does firing someone and depriving them of their livelihood help them repent?
I do have to give my parish credit. We embrace our gay and lesbian members. We welcome them with open arms. We honestly do love them. They are welcome to teach, to be in choir, to come to Bible study, etc. They just can’t get married in our church. I, myself, really don’t care who marries whom, but the Church does.Not all that long ago, however, a church organist who was discovered to be gay would probably have been fired (and still would be in some churches). So don’t pretend that religious conservatives have always been tolerant while the other side is intolerant.
Presumably it wasn’t just because of his/her sexual orientation. Just being gay is not a sin.
In my Parish we embrace all sinners , even those who sins are are not of a sexual nature. We welcome them with open arms . We honestly love them . They’re welcome to teach, to be in the choir, to come to Bible study etc. . I know because I am one of those sinners.
When one chooses to live a siinful lifestyle it can have temporal as well as spiritual consequences .
But does that law apply to elected officials? I’m asking because I don’t know.
Yes it does. In this case the obvious accomodation was to take her name off the marriage certificates.
