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Is there another world that guides and controls our world? From where does technology come? How else could our world grow to over seven billion people without it crashing? Our innate wit is simply too puny to account for all the high tech advances that you see in this world. Heck, please tell me if you have the innate wit to figure out how to mass produce simple boxes of toothpicks? Let me say that none of us have the innate wit to figure out the production process, especially the designing and building of the machinery. Now consider how our technology and world advanced so drastically over the past 150 years. Consider having to design and build the machinery and tooling necessary to mass produce computer chips. Such engineering feats, again, are far, far beyond our puny innate wit. My suggestion to everyone is to be humble, and seek God!

(I’m not in any way trying to infer that aliens have infiltrated the earth, but that, like in Judaism, God created four different worlds, with our world being the absolute lowest. It is these upper worlds that I’m talking about.)
 
I think you underestimate the human wit. The science behind our technology is pretty well understood. True, random accidents have played a part in that, but it was the humans watching the accidents that turned happenstance into advancement. My dad and oldest brother are both engineers, and I was nearly a physicist before the mathematicians snagged me, and while humility is of course necessary, I can confirm that it is quiet possible for a human to have a pretty good understanding of how even the most advanced technology we have works, where it came from, and what it can be made to do.

As for the whole 7 billion people and still counting thing - the Earth is big. Really, really big (compared to us). And we’ve been pretty spread out. We have crashed and burned several times, but the Earth is big enough that we haven’t yet managed to make a spectacular enough crash to mess us all up at once.

Of course, our wonderful technology means that such a spectacular crash is now feasible, but hopefully we won’t ever be organized enough to pull it off.
 
Iron_Donkey said:
I think you underestimate the human wit. The science behind our technology is pretty well understood. True, random accidents have played a part in that, but it was the humans watching the accidents that turned happenstance into advancement. My dad and oldest brother are both engineers, and I was nearly a physicist before the mathematicians snagged me, and while humility is of course necessary, I can confirm that it is quiet possible for a human to have a pretty good understanding of how even the most advanced technology we have works, where it came from, and what it can be made to do.

As for the whole 7 billion people and still counting thing - the Earth is big. Really, really big (compared to us). And we’ve been pretty spread out. We have crashed and burned several times, but the Earth is big enough that we haven’t yet managed to make a spectacular enough crash to mess us all up at once.

Of course, our wonderful technology means that such a spectacular crash is now feasible, but hopefully we won’t ever be organized enough to pull it off.
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Do you have the innate wit to design the process used to mass produce toothpicks? I would like to see how far you would get on your own. Even a dozen mechanical engineers would not be able to come up with a workable design without years and years of trail and error.

Do you know of anyone who designed the process for any of the mass produced products in our society? If not, where are they all hiding?
 
And just when I thought there was no rational answer to this, you come through, ID 👍
 
Iron_Donkey said:
I think you underestimate the human wit. The science behind our technology is pretty well understood. True, random accidents have played a part in that, but it was the humans watching the accidents that turned happenstance into advancement. My dad and oldest brother are both engineers, and I was nearly a physicist before the mathematicians snagged me, and while humility is of course necessary, I can confirm that it is quiet possible for a human to have a pretty good understanding of how even the most advanced technology we have works, where it came from, and what it can be made to do.

As for the whole 7 billion people and still counting thing - the Earth is big. Really, really big (compared to us). And we’ve been pretty spread out. We have crashed and burned several times, but the Earth is big enough that we haven’t yet managed to make a spectacular enough crash to mess us all up at once.

Of course, our wonderful technology means that such a spectacular crash is now feasible, but hopefully we won’t ever be organized enough to pull it off.
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👍👍👍

People are not as dumb as some think people are. (Thank God!) 😃 :gopray:
 
Robert_Sock said:
Is there another world that guides and controls our world? From where does technology come? How else could our world grow to over seven billion people without it crashing? Our innate wit is simply too puny to account for all the high tech advances that you see in this world. Heck, please tell me if you have the innate wit to figure out how to mass produce simple boxes of toothpicks? Let me say that none of us have the innate wit to figure out the production process, especially the designing and building of the machinery. Now consider how our technology and world advanced so drastically over the past 150 years. Consider having to design and build the machinery and tooling necessary to mass produce computer chips. Such engineering feats, again, are far, far beyond our puny innate wit. My suggestion to everyone is to be humble, and seek God!

(I’m not in any way trying to infer that aliens have infiltrated the earth, but that, like in Judaism, God created four different worlds, with our world being the absolute lowest. It is these upper worlds that I’m talking about.)
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God is in charge. As for the advances over the past 150 years, they are simply based on the advances over the past 10,000 years. 🙂 😉 :bounce:
 
Perhaps, Mr. Sock, you are overwhelmed by only considering the “big picture” and the end result. This is completely understandable, but consider the many, many steps that go into any innovation: the trial and error, the analysis, and the teamwork; one discovery building on another. Consider brainstorming and synchronicity. When you consider how marvelously we were made by our creator, and made in His image and likeness, there is no need to conclude that help came from other planets. But of course you can speculate if you like.🙂
 
Robert seems to like trying to startle people with outlandish ideas.
 
Technological advances build on one another. It is primarily the US capitalist system that encourages innovation. There is nothing mysterious about it. However technology can become the modern equivalent of the Tower of Babel. Technology is neither the path to Heaven, nor to immortality.
 
I wonder why you keep obsessing with manufacturing of toothpicks. This is not your first post about it. :rolleyes:

Do you believein the gifts of the Holy Spirit? If yes than you can see that there is nothing special about manufacturing toothpicks.
 
Cristiano said:
I wonder why you keep obsessing with manufacturing of toothpicks. This is not your first post about it. :rolleyes:

Do you believein the gifts of the Holy Spirit? If yes than you can see that there is nothing special about manufacturing toothpicks.
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With the gift of the Holy Spirit, do you possess this type of innate wit?
 
edwest2 said:
No. That’s not even a good science-fiction story.

Peace, 🙂

Ed
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It’s not even a bad science-fiction story! 😃

(Though they made a movie that sounded like it once…Dark City…creepy :bigyikes:)
 
I have been interested in weaving and looms for many years. There’s something about all this that fascinates me.

I can see how weaving and looms evolved… first someone figured out how to do a wide braid, then someone in a hurry decided to make it a little easier by running a stick through every other thread to pull a whole set of strings up for every other pass. Time passed and someone else thought about setting it up with rods so they wouldn’t have to do it all at one sitting, then someone thought ot using a frame to hold the rods in place… and so one til we ended up with a Jacquard loom, which uses hole-punched cards to vary the threads which go up and down…

… and someone figured out that those cards could be used for other things and those became the first computers.

If you ever get to DC, check out the rocket ship that the first asteonauts to step on the Moon–I couldn’t find a picture. The thing looked like it was made from parts from the hardware store! Before home computers. The outside looked like it was pop-riveted together, and the inside had rows of little toggle switches.

But now everything aeronautic looks like Star Trek.

It’s all the little movements made over the millenia which have brought us to this point, Robert. We are all standing on the shoulders of the people who went before, who stood on the shoulders of the people who were before them, and so on. The original cars designed like carriages, til someone thought of using something like a very strong bedspring for a smoother ride.

So, no, I don’t think we need to import our technology. We sit on top and know nothing about what happened before, so it does seem like magic, but the guy who makes toothpicks is the intellectual descendant of the man who first used a sapling to turn wood.
 
Robert_Sock said:
With the gift of the Holy Spirit, do you possess this type of innate wit?
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Wisdom and knowledge. Yes, I have enough innate wit to design a basic mass manufacturing process. That does not mean that I can get rich out of it.😊
 
i have never desired the need to mass produce toothpicks so never thought about it. But if I did I am pretty sure I could figure it out.
And the ability to do so comes from the human ability to learn and think.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Is there another world that guides and controls our world? From where does technology come? How else could our world grow to over seven billion people without it crashing? Our innate wit is simply too puny to account for all the high tech advances that you see in this world. Heck, please tell me if you have the innate wit to figure out how to mass produce simple boxes of toothpicks? Let me say that none of us have the innate wit to figure out the production process, especially the designing and building of the machinery. Now consider how our technology and world advanced so drastically over the past 150 years. Consider having to design and build the machinery and tooling necessary to mass produce computer chips. Such engineering feats, again, are far, far beyond our puny innate wit. My suggestion to everyone is to be humble, and seek God!

(I’m not in any way trying to infer that aliens have infiltrated the earth, but that, like in Judaism, God created four different worlds, with our world being the absolute lowest. It is these upper worlds that I’m talking about.)
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I think you are right. Most people could not even make a cuckoo clock or functional bicycle, or even a working manual typewriter, let alone a computer. How does it all work? How could an entire movie fit onto a USB? It’s just a bit of plastic. Nothing about the modern world adds up.

My theory is that it is all just an illusion, just a dream. We will wake up and find none of this stuff is real. But once we wake up, the dream will soon be forgotted. Perhaps we have eaten some bad mushrooms, or something…
 
Qoeleth said:
I think you are right. Most people could not even make a cuckoo clock or functional bicycle, or even a working manual typewriter, let alone a computer. How does it all work? How could an entire movie fit onto a USB? It’s just a bit of plastic. Nothing about the modern world adds up.

My theory is that it is all just an illusion, just a dream. We will wake up and find none of this stuff is real. But once we wake up, the dream will soon be forgotted. Perhaps we have eaten some bad mushrooms, or something…
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👍 👍 Thanks for your humorous (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
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