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And interestingly, it’s not the same group. People who are against the war are most certainly not the anti “amnesty” bill group.

The Republican party is fracturing at the seams because it’s becoming more and more apparent that Republicanism is not about pro-life or “secure borders,” but about money and corporate power. Period.
You have memorized the liberal talking points well. Problem is, there is no truth to the statement. I thought you were sharper than that.
 
Trouble with that is millions of Republican voters will either vote Third Party or just stay home. I do not want to get into a shouting match just state the obvious: the War has cooled a big section of the Repub. Party as well as the “amnesty bill” that Repubs pushed for.

The candidates out there right now, with the exception of just one, have NO pro-life background. And it looks like that ONE pro-lifer may leave the Party and go on a Third Party ticket. This will take millions of votes away and catapult the Democrat into the White House.

It’s going to be a very bumpy ride in America and her soul is at stake.

Many of the core Repubs feel like they’ve been taken over by elitists. Neither Party listens to the people…it is almost tyranny.
John, I always enjoy your posts. But I must take exception to your idea that the GOP has been taken over by elitists, whatever that is. What could be more elite than the other party telling us we are too dumb to think for ourselves and that they will help us? I can’t figure out what you mean by this? Please explain. It sounds good, but what does it mean to you?
 
You have memorized the liberal talking points well. Problem is, there is no truth to the statement. I thought you were sharper than that.
Oh, stop with the “liberal talking points” accusation. It’s insulting, to say the least. I’m not a “liberal.” I am anti-Republican because I’ve come to realize that Republicanism, as a whole, is incompatible with Christianity, as a whole. Then again, so is the general ideology of the Democratic party.
 
John, I always enjoy your posts. But I must take exception to your idea that the GOP has been taken over by elitists, whatever that is. What could be more elite than the other party telling us we are too dumb to think for ourselves and that they will help us? I can’t figure out what you mean by this? Please explain. It sounds good, but what does it mean to you?
Elitist is one who is not in touch with the grassroots. They (elitists) can be born into such a setting or they can gravitate to that status in their life pursuits.

Elitists live in those storied “Ivory Towers” and never mingle with those of lesser station and thereby are oblivious to the norms and values of those on the ground.

The candidates we saw Sunday, for the most part, never rub elbows with folks that work, scrimp, save and try raising a family in the society of today. Elitists never mention some of the outrages that are being introduced in the classrooms to grade school children. They do NOT bother themselves with such things…those things are only a concern for “the Great Unwashed.”

Elitists will nod affirmatively if an issue that has the weight of the plebiscite but are unable to elaborate. They can only pose a blank stare and nod; it’s political points but not of the heart.

So, in summary, an elitist is one who does NOT walk the walk as we do but thay can mutter the words. The Middle Americans were the core of the Republican successes in the lastdozen or more years but that has faded. The astonishing thing about that they do NOT even recognize the disenchantment the people have with the way America is going. Not a clue.

This is what elitists are about. Money, power and ego; "the people?..the “people who?”

The meltdown has almost happened during the Ross Perot campaign; but Perot self-destructed. A Third Party will ensure a democrat in the White House but the conservative Christian segment do not see any real difference.

Peace, John
 
Oh, stop with the “liberal talking points” accusation. It’s insulting, to say the least. I’m not a “liberal.” I am anti-Republican because I’ve come to realize that Republicanism, as a whole, is incompatible with Christianity, as a whole. Then again, so is the general ideology of the Democratic party.
And I’m insulted that you go to a group of people very knowledgeable about politics and Parrot liberal talking points to them.
 
And I’m insulted that you go to a group of people very knowledgeable about politics and Parrot liberal talking points to them.
Why can’t you respect the fact that I come by my opinions honestly?

Perhaps it’s just this mentality that says:

If (name removed by moderator)ut matches Republican ideology, accept without question.
If (name removed by moderator)ut does not match Republican ideology, liberal and evil.

That’s a rather simplistic and immature way of thinking.

By the way, on what basis do you claim to be “very knowledgeable about politics?”
 
Why can’t you respect the fact that I come by my opinions honestly?

Perhaps it’s just this mentality that says:

If (name removed by moderator)ut matches Republican ideology, accept without question.
If (name removed by moderator)ut does not match Republican ideology, liberal and evil.

That’s a rather simplistic and immature way of thinking.

By the way, on what basis do you claim to be “very knowledgeable about politics?”
Perhaps it’s just a matter of great minds think alike. I heard Chris Matthews made the exact same comment last night. Perhaps he’s been reading these forums.
 
Perhaps it’s just a matter of great minds think alike. I heard Chris Matthews made the exact same comment last night. Perhaps he’s been reading these forums.
Well, you know…last night, the last thing on my mind was watching Chris Matthews or any other talking head shows. I had just gotten back from a pleasant morning/afternoon at Disneyland and was looking forward to a good night’s sleep.

And before you ask, I got up extra early and drove 45 minutes to attend Mass before going to Disneyland.
 
Well, you know…last night, the last thing on my mind was watching Chris Matthews or any other talking head shows. I had just gotten back from a pleasant morning/afternoon at Disneyland and was looking forward to a good night’s sleep.

And before you ask, I got up extra early and drove 45 minutes to attend Mass before going to Disneyland.
I always go to mass on Saturday night. I took great pleasure in riding through Rocky mountan national park during a nice snow yesterday. Tons of elk out and I even saw a fox-a rare occasion for me…
 
Oh, stop with the “liberal talking points” accusation. It’s insulting, to say the least. I’m not a “liberal.” I am anti-Republican because I’ve come to realize that Republicanism, as a whole, is incompatible with Christianity, as a whole. Then again, so is the general ideology of the Democratic party.
Did you not learn as a child to speak only when you are spoken to?
 
I am anti-Republican because I’ve come to realize that Republicanism, as a whole, is incompatible with Christianity, as a whole. Then again, so is the general ideology of the Democratic party.
Specific examples would be useful. Such as this article on a bill wending its way through congress. Which party would you assume supports this kind of thing and which party opposes it? The two parties may both be worse than we would like but they are not equally bad on issues important to Christians.

insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1166&Itemid=48

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Trouble with that is millions of Republican voters will either vote Third Party or just stay home. I do not want to get into a shouting match just state the obvious: the War has cooled a big section of the Repub. Party as well as the “amnesty bill” that Repubs pushed for.

The candidates out there right now, with the exception of just one, have NO pro-life background. And it looks like that ONE pro-lifer may leave the Party and go on a Third Party ticket. This will take millions of votes away and catapult the Democrat into the White House.
If all of the pro-life Catholics and pro-life Baptists and pro-life Lutherans and pro-life Pentecostals and pro-life Mormons and pro-life Moslems and — continue down the list, if all of them voted for that Third Party pro-life candidate, he’d win.

And that’s the truth. So, when that pro-life candidate loses, BLAME THE CATHOLICS FOR NOT VOTING FOR HIM.
 
If all of the pro-life Catholics and pro-life Baptists and pro-life Lutherans and pro-life Pentecostals and pro-life Mormons and pro-life Moslems and — continue down the list, if all of them voted for that Third Party pro-life candidate, he’d win.

And that’s the truth. So, when that pro-life candidate loses, BLAME THE CATHOLICS FOR NOT VOTING FOR HIM.
Uh-huh… :hmmm: Is this fictitious, third-party, pro-life candidate going to be the perfect candidate, uniting both liberal and conservative pro-life voters? And which Catholics are we blaming - the Democrat Catholics or the Republican Catholics?
 
Oh, stop with the “liberal talking points” accusation. It’s insulting, to say the least. I’m not a “liberal.” I am anti-Republican because I’ve come to realize that Republicanism, as a whole, is incompatible with Christianity, as a whole. Then again, so is the general ideology of the Democratic party.
Way to take a stand! Fight the power!!

Now, please list the accomplishments of your non-Democrat and non-Republican officeholders, so we can be confident that they will serve us well… What legislation have they passed? Voted for? Against? It should be easy…there aren’t very many. 😛
 
Didn’t have Bernie Sanders in mind. Sorry, but there is ANOTHER that has “I” after his name.
Oh forgot.

Liebermann from Connecticut ran in 2006 as an Independent. He still caucuses with the Dems though.

So there are two Independents in the Senate (that really caucus with the Dems).
 
Hey now, I was referencing post #392, which says the dude does exist! :eek:
Oh…I thought you were referencing the “fictitious candidate.” 😃

The poster in #392 is incorrect, first of all. There are eight Republican candidates. There is only one pro-choice candidate running. There are 2-3 who are apparently not pro-life enough. The other 4 are solidly pro-life. So, it is impossible to figure out who the “one pro-lifer” is that is possibly going to run as a third party candidate.

I think all of the third party talk is just silly until after the primaries, unless you have an actual, announced third party candidate whom you expect to rally the voters to. I am expending my energy trying to get a pro-life candidate elected, so the problem becomes moot. 👍
 
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